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Thats insulting to John Oshea tbh. Sheazy was good with both feet, always committed and never 3 stone overweight during a season.Luke Shaw is a poor man's John O'Shea - Change My Mind
Thats insulting to John Oshea tbh. Sheazy was good with both feet, always committed and never 3 stone overweight during a season.Luke Shaw is a poor man's John O'Shea - Change My Mind
Ozil and Aubameyang have been working overtime in the last couple of matches as well. It's more to do with following Arteta instructions rather than them raising their games for utd. Both of them covered the max distance in our team.Regarding movement; Lingard, who apparently excels at this, had yet another shocker. Some interesting comments from Giggs, that when United were in possession, Lingard would run towards the ball, thus, closing down and crowding the ball instead of holding his discipline/position and finding space in his position as a result of stretching them. He was actually doing the Arse defenders jobs for them by playing like an 11 year old, following the ball.
Also interesting that Ozil chose this game to cover more ground than he has done in the past five years. Not saying this in defence or criticism but teams and players clearly lift their games vs United. Probably always have but this lot are so. fecking spineless, they can’t rise to it.
My friend whose an arsenal supporter said the exact oppositeMy boss, who is an Arsenal season ticket holder, thought Lingard was our best player yesterday and was the player most likely to cause them trouble. He was happy when he was substituted.
Did anyone else think this? How about our resident Arse fans?
I said we'd be happy to sell him to them.
Does your boss happens to be Ole?My boss, who is an Arsenal season ticket holder, thought Lingard was our best player yesterday and was the player most likely to cause them trouble. He was happy when he was substituted.
Did anyone else think this? How about our resident Arse fans?
I said we'd be happy to sell him to them.
Are you an Arsenal fan ? Please let me know what you thought was decent about that first half from United, I'm genuinely curious as I saw nothing.I thought we were decent. Not great. But I'm not too disappointed. We kept the tempo up at a reasonably good rate and kept getting at them. We needed that luck that arsenal received but we didn't get it.
Ask you boss what was he smoking? Lingard was a waste of space yesterday. People who like him just like him for two reasons maybe, one he is a manchester born and bred and second he runs a lot , therefore fooling people to believe he is working hard. There were many moments yesterday when he had zero understanding of the game and was just running like a fool. The guy has been having a mare and Ole needs to let the boy off his misery.My boss, who is an Arsenal season ticket holder, thought Lingard was our best player yesterday and was the player most likely to cause them trouble. He was happy when he was substituted.
Did anyone else think this? How about our resident Arse fans?
I said we'd be happy to sell him to them.
Perhaps, but it can happen that you're just not right after the rehab, hence why they are looking at surgery.Any player can get injured. But from an outsider’s perspective surely they have mishandled the injury if Pogba has now tried twice to come back and not been able to last a match without a huge recovery period.
Tell your boss he should lay off the crack pipe mateMy boss, who is an Arsenal season ticket holder, thought Lingard was our best player yesterday and was the player most likely to cause them trouble. He was happy when he was substituted.
Did anyone else think this? How about our resident Arse fans?
I said we'd be happy to sell him to them.
Any hope and optimism surrounding United right now comes directly from our game raising performances too to be fair.Regarding movement; Lingard, who apparently excels at this, had yet another shocker. Some interesting comments from Giggs, that when United were in possession, Lingard would run towards the ball, thus, closing down and crowding the ball instead of holding his discipline/position and finding space in his position as a result of stretching them. He was actually doing the Arse defenders jobs for them by playing like an 11 year old, following the ball.
Also interesting that Ozil chose this game to cover more ground than he has done in the past five years. Not saying this in defence or criticism but teams and players clearly lift their games vs United. Probably always have but this lot are so. fecking spineless, they can’t rise to it.
This.....Please don't bring up that snake. He's taking an opportunity to take a piss at the club. The sooner him and Pogba are gone the better. We needed Pogba today and all indications were he was going to play. But out of nowhere he's ankle is hurt after his agent attacked the club publicly a few days. Who knows if he's really hurt, or he is trying to force his way out.
The Glazers and Woodward are problem, the recruitment structure is a problem and greedy agents like Raiola and selfish players like Pogba are also a problem.
Just a total lack of quality throughout the team. I would only keepRVP and Ferdinand have basically said the players aren’t being coached properly.
If they were they would see the runs Rashford is making and actually attempt a forward pass. There is no risk takers in this team. Shaw especially refuses to go forward or pass forward. You can’t create attacked constantly going sideways and backward.
I agree with most of what you have said. Woodward needs to be moved sideways and focus on marketing. Cant understand why we appointed a manager with no track record. He is clueless. How have we managed to buy so many players who look good ...until they start playing for us? Magic and Mata legs have gone. Jones and Rojo are permanently injured. Shaw and Lingard are not good enough. Martial has one good game a month. Pogba is pure poison...get rid.I was close to falling asleep too.
The players are tired. Our squad is weak in numbers, and quality, so we can neither rotate enough, nor rotate without a drop-off in quality, and even the 1st choice players aren't quite up to it. Andreas isn't good enough, but Lingard is literally a whole league worse. Brandon is our best LB but he's actually just a rookie, while Shaw isn't good enough for even the squad. Maguire has been overplayed, but Rojo and Jones are sick notes and not up to standard anyway. Rashford is also overplayed, as is James, but we have no strength in depth their either. Let alone the midfield, which without McTominay now, and likely Pogba too for a few weeks, will just burnout Fred, while Matic is already past it.
Next couple of months is just one tough game after another, and with our squad in this state, we'll be going out of the Cups rapidly, and season over by end of February, as usual.
We know recruitment has been lousy, and if Ole underestimates the need for numbers, it'll be his downfall, as Woodward will never accept his responsibility and resign.
Looks to be another long year ahead.
Agreed. Of course results might improve slightly if the owners invest a few hundred million pounds in the next two windows, but the football will not improve. We will remain at a significant disadvantage to other sides with actual top managers, who, by the way, will also spend to improve their sides.We just spanked out 80 millions on an underwhelming centre back in the summer instead of focusing on our most pressing need. A proper CM.
Plus look at our player material and tell me we shouldn't have done better than we have. Not talking about Arse now as they had better players available but in general.
And all of you in the Ole in brigade always ignore the main arguments against him. What is his style of play? Is it any different than what we saw under Mou? Counter attacks is not a proper strategy most of the time. Especially not against deep sitting sides.
He won't succeed here. Not now and not with a better squad. He just isn't a good manager. Yes our squad needs proper investment. Nobody denies that and nobody expects him to win the league with the players he has. But a proper manager would get us playing better football.
Ah the old just a bad day at the office ritual again. Let's put it in the cupboard with all the rest this season, West Ham, Watford, Bournemouth, and all the other shite we have lost to.It was just a bad day at the park. Apart from McTominay, this is exactly the same United team that outclassed Man City at the Etihad. Mentally the players were totally convinced they will completely overrun an out-of-sorts, struggling Arsenal. But after Arsenal's brilliant first half performance vs Chelsea, Arteta's team are definitely a changed side. If they build stamina and play with the same intensity for 90 minutes, they will be a very strong side again soon.
I’ll take Van Persie’s word that they were good runs over yours cheersnot very clever runs... watch what Leicester do, let alone City and Liverpool
I don't agree at all Arsenil have a better team than us. 1 win in their last 16 games and their first home win in 3 months goes a long way to suggest that.On paper Arsenal had a better team than us, in my opinion, yesterday. I’m confused by people suggesting they didn’t although I’m happy to discuss it.
You're right. Didn't mean to include Matic in that list, we really didn't have another choice with McTom's injury. Shaw and Lingard should have been on the bench thoughNot trying to defend Ole at all. But what choice does Ole had other than Matic? McTom was bench because of poor performance? Pogba was rested because of heavy (party) schedule? I thought Shaw was a natural choice but the 2 rested fullbacks had too much party time apparently.
Chris Kavanagh