The “Ole In” Brigade

sunama · Jan 7, 2020

Dec9003 said:
Whilst I agree, the window is open right this second, and Ole when speaking about transfers hasn’t exactly been bullish.
I’ve backed him all the way, but if he and his team can’t identify players to improve this rabble this month, then he needs replacing with somebody who can.

We won't be buying any players this January.
I've seen this type of comment many times, but I feel that you will still support a failing regime until he is sacked.
Ole is far out of his depth and it is so obvious, anybody with footballing knowledge can see this.
No other club in the EPL will hire him, yet we persist with this trainee manager.
And don't get me started on Carrick and McKenna - these guys have known nothing but failure since they got their jobs. Rui Faria was several levels above the 2 of them.

Robbie Boy · Jan 7, 2020

Lentwood said:
What the knee-jerkers, the Internet nerds, the glory hunters, the forum tacticians, the FIFA players have never, and will never, understand about those who back Ole is that we don’t base our opinions on what happens in one game, one month or even one season

You rock.

edgecutter · Jan 7, 2020

vidic blood & sand said:
There's obviously going to be some inconsistency with the current squad, but the Ole out brigade disappear when we win. It's not a shock that we have nights like tonight, but as I said, who do you think can give us more consistency?

I have said this previously and I believe it's what many other fans believe too, I don't mind losing as long as I can see some progress. At the moment we look awful, have one game plan (even the top teams seemed to have figured out) and still continue to pick the same poor players over and over again.

vidic blood & sand · Jan 7, 2020

dove said:
It is a fecking answer, sticking with someone absolutely useless at his job is clearly not. Liverpool got lucky with the manager so can we.

So you want microwaved success.

R'hllor · Jan 7, 2020

People moan about how we play regardless of win/draw/lose and here it comes " they vanish when we win " boom owned.

LJJT · Jan 7, 2020

Enigma_87 said:
Which top player, in their right mind, will come to play under Ole? You have to be seriously deluded to think a top player will agree to join a League One level manager, unless we choke him with money.

I know it’s frustrating and it’s easy to slate Ole but he’s had some good results, he’s a manager I think players respect and respond to and we are still Man United, we can get the players in. We just need to get our hands in our pockets and pay the transfer fees rather than pissing about

Enigma_87 · Jan 7, 2020

Lentwood said:
What the knee-jerkers, the Internet nerds, the glory hunters, the forum tacticians, the FIFA players have never, and will never, understand about those who back Ole is that we don’t base our opinions on what happens in one game, one month or even one season

The clubs a shambles, we’ve been ran disgustingly poorly for seven years now and that’s manifested itself in games like tonight where Phil Jones, Andreas Pereira, two 18yo’s and Jesse Lingard take on one of the best teams to ever play the game

We could have lost 28-0 tonight it wouldn’t have changed my opinion about any of our managers even 1%

Your opinion is just masochism, mate. Seriously the 'Ole In brigade' is reaching RAWKish level of its heyday...

Regulus Arcturus Black · Jan 7, 2020

vidic blood & sand said:
There's obviously going to be some inconsistency with the current squad, but the Ole out brigade disappear when we win. It's not a shock that we have nights like tonight, but as I said, who do you think can give us more consistency?

Because many are not arseholes @vidic blood & sand, why the feck would any United fan be in here moaning when we win ffs?

What a stupid stupid sentiment.

vidic blood & sand · Jan 7, 2020

Robbie Boy said:
People that align themselves to 'brigades' are hilarious. Ole is not the man for job, it's that simple. He's going to be sacked sooner or later and this is all just a long, painful wait that we're having to endure. Anyone thinking that people that want him out disappear after a win are totally fecking deluded and obviously only read what they want.

The 'in' crowd are the cringy ones that started a thread about some fecking brigade they joined and wear it like it's a badge of honour. The 'in' crowd also fail to see their sheer hypocrisy and are so convinced that they're right that it's bordering on total delusion at this point.

So who's your answer to bring the glory days back?

Dec9003 · Jan 7, 2020

sunama said:
We won't be buying any players this January.
I've seen this type of comment many times, but I feel that you will still support a failing regime until he is sacked.
Ole is far out of his depth and it is so obvious, anybody with footballing knowledge can see this.
No other club in the EPL will hire him, yet we persist with this trainee manager.
And don't get me started on Carrick and McKenna - these guys have known nothing but failure since they got their jobs. Rui Faria was several levels above the 2 of them.

If we don't buy anyone this January, then he needs to go like I said.

Regulus Arcturus Black · Jan 7, 2020

LJJT said:
He got it terribly wrong first half today, don’t think he’s ever got it so wrong in a game before.

@LJJT

Sheffield United 2 - 0 Manchester United after 50 minutes and completely dominated.

guess the midfield.

passing-wind · Jan 7, 2020

Lentwood said:
What the knee-jerkers, the Internet nerds, the glory hunters, the forum tacticians, the FIFA players have never, and will never, understand about those who back Ole is that we don’t base our opinions on what happens in one game, one month or even one season

The clubs a shambles, we’ve been ran disgustingly poorly for seven years now and that’s manifested itself in games like tonight where Phil Jones, Andreas Pereira, two 18yo’s and Jesse Lingard take on one of the best teams to ever play the game

We could have lost 28-0 tonight it wouldn’t have changed my opinion about any of our managers even 1%

You sir deserve a delusion badge

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Enigma_87 · Jan 7, 2020

vidic blood & sand said:
I don't think he's being inept. He's giving the players a very fair shot at saving their careers this season. If I read him right, this season was about resetting. Building a squad from scratch.
The squad lacks serious quality, but the players he's brought in have been good signings. He knows there has to be continued improvement.

Yes, players like Lingard and Pereira who are very much obviously not United quality to even the tea lady. In the meantime he gives them contracts for their services to build that squad from 'scratch'.

Players who he has brought in began to deteriorate as soon as they bedded in. Do you think AWB, Maguire and James are playing as good these couple of months compared to when they came in?

150m worth of players that soon will become 'deadwood'...

The biggest weakness and lack of quality is on the bench. A guy that spent 10 years in Norway coaching a side in a tin pot league and being fired after 6 months from Cardiff bringing them to relegation zone in the Championship. Yes, he's inept and won't get a top job as soon as he is sacked pretty much everywhere.

Regulus Arcturus Black · Jan 7, 2020

Lentwood said:
What the knee-jerkers, the Internet nerds, the glory hunters, the forum tacticians, the FIFA players have never, and will never, understand

The irony of someone who actually types that out calling out anyone. My Lord.

Rado_N · Jan 7, 2020

Lentwood said:
What the knee-jerkers, the Internet nerds, the glory hunters, the forum tacticians, the FIFA players have never, and will never, understand about those who back Ole is that we don’t base our opinions on what happens in one game, one month or even one season

The clubs a shambles, we’ve been ran disgustingly poorly for seven years now and that’s manifested itself in games like tonight where Phil Jones, Andreas Pereira, two 18yo’s and Jesse Lingard take on one of the best teams to ever play the game

We could have lost 28-0 tonight it wouldn’t have changed my opinion about any of our managers even 1%

Jesus Christ

Foxbatt · Jan 7, 2020

Really I can't believe the shite I am seeing from some people here. Are you fans of Manchester United or are you fans of Ole Gunnar Solskjaer? If you are genuine fans of Manchester United, you cannot accept this dross. We have sacked managers before when they could not perform. Ex players too. Why should be stick with Ole, when it shows that he has no clue tactically. The fact we did not concede any goals in the second half was because Sterling had a terrible day and David saved us twice with two outstanding saves and Lindelof without knowing much about it saved it with his arse and Jones once with his nose. Otherwise we would have conceded about 6 to 7 goals. Their keeper did not make any save and the one time he had to we scored.

Enigma_87 · Jan 7, 2020

LJJT said:
I know it’s frustrating and it’s easy to slate Ole but he’s had some good results, he’s a manager I think players respect and respond to and we are still Man United, we can get the players in. We just need to get our hands in our pockets and pay the transfer fees rather than pissing about

As I said - we can if we pay the price others won't (Maguire, AWB) and give them fat contracts.

Why would you come to play in a team that is going downwards for years now under the worst manager in probably any top league if it isn't for the money, serious question?

Isn't this what we want to avoid ?

vidic blood & sand · Jan 7, 2020

Enigma_87 said:
Yes, players like Lingard and Pereira who are very much obviously not United quality to even the tea lady. In the meantime he gives them contracts for their services to build that squad from 'scratch'.

Players who he has brought in began to deteriorate as soon as they bedded in. Do you think AWB, Maguire and James are playing as good these couple of months compared to when they came in?

150m worth of players that soon will become 'deadwood'...

The biggest weakness and lack of quality is on the bench. A guy that spent 10 years in Norway coaching a side in a tin pot league and being fired after 6 months from Cardiff bringing them to relegation zone in the Championship. Yes, he's inept and won't get a top job as soon as he is sacked pretty much everywhere.

So who do you think would turn it around?

LJJT · Jan 7, 2020

Regulus Arcturus Black said:
@LJJT

Sheffield United 2 - 0 Manchester United after 50 minutes and completely dominated.

guess the midfield.

Yeah I agree, we did at least get that game turned round quickly and should have got 3 points there. The Sheff Utd game again we can criticise him for first half but you then have to give credit for how he changed it and we got 3-2 up then chucked it away at the end. Today we did the same but players have to take more responsibility tonight we where soft as shite first half

Enigma_87 · Jan 7, 2020

vidic blood & sand said:
So who's your answer to bring the glory days back?

You do understand Ole in means you are in full support of Woodward? He is his "project" and Ole will back the board regardless of what happens.

Unless you are happy with how the club is run there is absolutely no reason to support a Woodward puppet, absolutely not a single one.

sunama · Jan 7, 2020

Kostur said:
I mean, if you're one of the 'I don't think a new manager will fix shit' indifferent type of guys I sort of get it. But Christ, if anybody is truly 'Ole in' at this point you guys need a group therapy.

There are some people, in their psyche, who believe that the people in charge will sort it and that the subordinates (in this case, fans) should support the leaders of the organisation (in this case Ole and Woodward).
This happens in big companies and organisations. Things are going drastically wrong, but some workers will say, "our bosses/managers will sort it out". A few months later, the company goes into administration.
This is a way of thinking which cannot be logically explained. It's blind faith.
Eventually, the manager will be fired (because that's what Woodward does), a new manager will be hired and these same fans will say, "trust the new manager". This way of thinking is embedded into some people.

Drifter · Jan 7, 2020

Is this thread for real?

shadowcat · Jan 7, 2020

I wish people would just realise he’s simply not good enough. I’m not a fan of sacking managers but in any company, business or organisation if the top dog isn’t getting the best of the people under him and doesn’t not have a plan b for when things don’t work out then they get sacked.

There’s no kind of philosophy at our club it’s a total shambles from top to bottom. Was watching the game and my heart just sank. In all my years of supporting United i just pity the other fans that go to games and get treated with rubbish like this.

Jim Beam · Jan 7, 2020

Not a small brigade tbf. Every opposition fan is in it too.

LJJT · Jan 7, 2020

Enigma_87 said:
As I said - we can if we pay the price others won't (Maguire, AWB) and give them fat contracts.

Why would you come to play in a team that is going downwards for years now under the worst manager in probably any top league if it isn't for the money, serious question?

Isn't this what we want to avoid ?

There’s still a lot of players out there, that would be stepping up playing for us, earning more money than they are on now, plus the worldwide fame and status for playing for united. There’s plenty of players out there that yeah we may have to pay over the odds on the transfer fee but not the wages

Enigma_87 · Jan 7, 2020

vidic blood & sand said:
So who do you think would turn it around?

Any good manager will make us play better. Poch, Rodgers, Ten Hag, Nagelsmann, Rose, Allegri - whoever you pick - he will be miles better than Ole.

He might not bring us the treble in the next season but will be a step in the right direction.

Learning from a mistake and not appointing nobodies like Ole would be a very good lesson.

Appointing dinosaurs also.

Will Singh · Jan 7, 2020

Ole In is a cult movement, if he hadn’t of played for us these same so called fans would go to Old Trafford personally to throw him out. But because he has legendary status he deserves to do as he pleases like picking JlingZ...

hobbers · Jan 7, 2020

Lentwood said:
What the knee-jerkers, the Internet nerds, the glory hunters, the forum tacticians, the FIFA players have never, and will never, understand

Rattled [ x ]

Irrational. · Jan 7, 2020

MyOnlySolskjaer said:
**** brigade.

I needed that.

Paxi · Jan 7, 2020

MyOnlySolskjaer said:
**** brigade.

Heinzesight · Jan 7, 2020

I prefer the term ‘Pro Ole’ personally. Has a much nicer ring to it.

Enigma_87 · Jan 7, 2020

LJJT said:
There’s still a lot of players out there, that would be stepping up playing for us, earning more money than they are on now, plus the worldwide fame and status for playing for united. There’s plenty of players out there that yeah we may have to pay over the odds on the transfer fee but not the wages

Those won't qualify as top players.

Those players will need extensive coaching and guidance to become top players under a good coach and experienced manager with progressive ideas. Ole hasn't improved the players he has only to make us regress, despite bringing in 150m worth of players during the Summer, and all three of them are starting to look worse in the last couple of months game after game.

Also Maguire won't be getting the same money anywhere else if you ask me. Even City pulled out.

Enigma_87 · Jan 7, 2020

MyOnlySolskjaer said:
**** brigade.

That's actually a very good depiction of them, should relate them to it :lol:

Bilbo · Jan 7, 2020

edgecutter said:
I have said this previously and I believe it's what many other fans believe too, I don't mind losing as long as I can see some progress. At the moment we look awful, have one game plan (even the top teams seemed to have figured out) and still continue to pick the same poor players over and over again.

We are in the position of picking whichever XI is fit and fresh unfortunately. Look at our benches if you doubt it.

I will remain Ole in until the time comes when we have a squad that is any better on paper than how we are performing. We will be scrapping for results for the rest of the season.

girish · Jan 7, 2020

Atleast he isn't smiling like an idiot in the post match interview, right? I'd take that for now. Fantastic player for us, but an absolutely terrible manager, especially for a big club. This romanticism towards him are going to bring this club down; especially if he's allowed to stay more and continues to bring in the players he wants.

Regulus Arcturus Black · Jan 7, 2020

Will Singh said:
Ole In is a cult movement, if he hadn’t of played for us these same so called fans would go to Old Trafford personally to throw him out. But because he has legendary status he deserves to do as he pleases like picking JlingZ...

Oh there's absolutely no doubt about.

As if Leftback, Lentwood, Wummy, Vidicbas would be backing Paul Jewell if he'd come in in December 2018 and had similar results. They'd be foaming at the mouth.

fergiesarmy1 · Jan 7, 2020

Dec9003 said:
If we don't buy anyone this January, then he needs to go like I said.

Because that will be his fault or the owners and people that actually do the buying?

Flexdegea · Jan 7, 2020

Still in.

State of that team tonight. We get a couple Injuries and we go from good 11 to absolute shambles on paper and on pitch.

Said it all along he needs another 3 windows to sort this squad out. Tonight was basically the finished product of 6 years of neglect.

Anyone expecting serious result and performance tonight is mad with that team out.

Defo not a match to be slating the manager. No matter what team he puts on its poor.

Enigma_87 · Jan 7, 2020

fergiesarmy1 said:
Because that will be his fault or the owners and people that actually do the buying?

Has Ole ever said something bad about the board or have criticized them? Will Ole ever say something that is not aligned with Woodward?

If you are supporting him you are in full support of Woodward, simple as.

Regulus Arcturus Black · Jan 7, 2020

Flexdegea said:
Anyone expecting serious result and performance tonight is mad with that team out.

You do realise he has decided to gut the squad that finished 2nd and go with this squad?

Kin ell people, you don't back a manager because his squad is shit when he is responsible for it being shit and light.

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