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Dante

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To cut the losses. We are paying his salary and he is not playing. If we could sell him, we would have sold him already. What does extending by another year do? Why would we not be in the same exact position a year from now, just having payed millions in salary?


Or whoever wants him waits just 6 more months, until next January and still gets him for free. Or we play him meanwhile, he gets injured again and is not sellable. Given his track record - prospects are pretty bad.

Why do you think we are geniuses and everybody else is a dumb sucker? Extending by a year doesn't have the economic effect you think it does.
Maybe. Maybe not. But in either case, it's silly not to protect your investment for nothing.
 

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It’s as if people don’t learn anything. Although so many on here have a weird soft spot for Bailly.
Tbf i like to watch him on the pitch being mental, maybe not in our shirt but in general, always said, only thing missing is comic book cloud above his head, just to see whats his thinking when he tries to do some crazy shit.
 

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The way the bean counters look at Bailly's contract is like a financial option (call, put) that is about to expire worthless in a short of time (decaying Theta). By extending the expiration by two years, you pay a further premium, but hopefully you can exercise the contract in-the-money. As long as Sale Price > Wages given to player + Unamortised contract value then it makes sense... to the bean counters.

The fans look at it as a sicknote player who hasn't contributed much in defense is getting an extension, thus the club rewarding failure/mediocrity.
Bean counters are also wrong, because that bowl of beans has expiry date and they are stocking merchandise that will very likely go bad before they can sell it, racking up silly costs.
 

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Maybe. Maybe not. But in either case, it's silly not to protect your investment for nothing.
Eric Bailly is paid £80,000/week. Given 52 weeks/year, keeping him on for another year costs us £4,16M in pure cash + other implications that having a player on the books have. Does that sound "for nothing" to you? And how much do you think anybody will pay for a player with such injury record, even if they don't wait for his extended contract to also run down, or if he doesn't get injured again, as soon as we play him.
 

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Bean counters are also wrong, because that bowl of beans has expiry date and they are stocking merchandise that will very likely go bad before they can sell it, racking up silly costs.
Nothing is certain, but again if sale price > incremental wages we've paid to keep him tied up, then it makes sense.

I write this dispassionately, as I can't stand the player and want him gone asap.

There's just a financial reality and a sporting reality.
 

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Nothing is certain, but again if sale price > incremental wages we've paid to keep him tied up, then it makes sense.

I write this dispassionately, as I can't stand the player and want him gone asap.

There's just a financial reality and a sporting reality.
I hear you, but their financial calculations don't necessarily make sense – is all. Like you said the "if sale price > cost" is an assumption and it is a big "if". Chances are he still goes on free, just a year later, having cost us £4.2M more in wages.
 

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I hear you, but their financial calculations don't necessarily make sense – is all. Like you said the "if sale price > cost" is an assumption and it is a big "if". Chances are he still goes on free, just a year later, having cost us £4.2M more in wages.
Even If we sell him for 5m in 5 months time then it would be worth it. I'm pretty we could get at least that.
 

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Even If we sell him for 5m in 5 months time then it would be worth it. I'm pretty we could get at least that.
You are making two major assumptions:

1. He does not get injured by then again. Injured players don't get bought. Are we going to keep him gift-wrapped until sale and never play? Do people want to buy a player that hasn't played in two years?
2. You are assuming buyers will not wait until he is free again. We are only extending by one year. If you were a buyer, why the feck would you pay for him 5M, when you can wait 6 more months and get him for free? A team that pays 5M for a CB is a poor team. They don't have money to throw around. Not to mention that Woodward will not sell him for 5M. Transaction costs and the size of his ego is worth him more than 1M profit.
 

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I'd rather have someone on the books for 4-5 million a year who can actually play for more than 20 mins.

We may just be paying another years wages while he gets fit and leaves on a free. Clubs might not want to take a gamble spending 15-25 million on him with a year left but who knows, he could become a regular for United or someone has to take a gamble on him. I feel players like Shaw and Bailly need to be let go sooner for players who can be relied upon, I've seen enough to really doubt these will ever be fit here.
 

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You are making two major assumptions:

1. He does not get injured by then again. Injured players don't get bought. Are we going to keep him gift-wrapped until sale and never play? Do people want to buy a player that hasn't played in two years?
2. You are assuming buyers will not wait until he is free again. We are only extending by one year. If you were a buyer, why the feck would you pay for him 5M, when you can wait 6 more months and get him for free? A team that plays 5M for a CB is a poor team. They don't have money to throw around. Not to mention that Woodward will not sell him for 5M. Transaction costs and the size of his ego is worth him more than 1M profit.
Your assuming that he will get injured again.. Sure its a risk but my opinion is it worth the risk.

We have triggered his extention which is 2 years.

We have just sold a 34 year old for 1.3m with 6 months left.
 

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Your assuming that he will get injured again.. Sure its a risk but my opinion is it worth the risk.

We have triggered his extention which is 2 years.

We have just sold a 34 year old for 1.3m with 6 months left.
Ah. I thought I saw that the extension was only 1 year. Thanks for correcting me. It will be interesting to see what happens.
 

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One step away from Dani Olmo's farewell to Dinamo Zagreb, the Spanish talent seems to be heading towards AC Milan, thanks to Boban's great work and excellent relations with the Croatian club. An offer of 30 million is ready to bring the boy to Milanello and to make the rumours stronger, Zagreb head coach Nenad Bjelica said: "Olmo will not play tomorrow. We know that we are talking about his transfer, even if we do not know where and when he will leave. He's in a good mood, he trains really well, but at this stage we don't want to take the risk of taking him on the pitch. "
 

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It is quite sad how he hasn’t managed to do it for the first-team. Looked like Sane in the academy.
 

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It is quite sad how he hasn’t managed to do it for the first-team. Looked like Sane in the academy.
It's quite sad how people have written him off after a handful of substitute appearances.
Time is needed, as well as patience, which seems in short supply amongst the caf these days.
 

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His injury issues and form in general when he's actually fit is so up and down for me, and yeah when its mattered I don't know, I don't think he's one to really stand up to be counted more often than not. He'd want huge money to come, I doubt he'd really want to be here anyway, he'd be the typical past his best over payed headache we're trying to avoid now.
 

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His injury issues and form in general when he's actually fit is so up and down for me, and yeah when its mattered I don't know, I don't think he's one to really stand up to be counted more often than not. He'd want huge money to come, I doubt he'd really want to be here anyway, he'd be the typical past his best over payed headache we're trying to avoid now.
Tend to agree. I want someone who sees us as a step up and wants to get better. He is past that stage. He likely would see it as a step down in our situation, but a nice big pay packet. We needed to get him when he first moved and still had ambition.
 

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He'd be the exact sort of disaster here that we're trying to get away from.
I'm not sure. He's never really settled at Bayern besides a year or so, and when he did he played well. We are in dire need of a player to control the game from deep and Thiago is one of the best in the world at that.
 

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It's quite sad how people have written him off after a handful of substitute appearances.
Time is needed, as well as patience, which seems in short supply amongst the caf these days.
I’d add that he’s the one ontrol of his destiny.
Yes he is talented but so are a handful of others in the age group lower. We will always have talented youngsters.
Has he taken his opportunity? No. Most of the time he’s looked nervous and unsure. He should have scored an easy tap in against Astana.

He allegedly turned down a loan move. Why? We will never know.However, it may have benefited him long term.

He’s the one stalling on a contract I believe. Does he think Utd owe him a living? If you don’t take your chance here then Utd will do its best to find you another club.
If the grass is greener elsewhere then we can’t stand in his way.
If it is Juve then brilliant. I’ll be happy for him. What I do know is that this club will move on.

Personally I’m far more convinced by Mejbri, Hoogwerf and a couple of others
 
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