Ighalo can actually make runs and he almost scored within 2 minutes. Been saying this forever, Martial is just no good.
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I am surprised Chicharito is not done it too. Used to love himself a goal against Chelsea
Do you know when chances like Awb and martial happen tonight and they come off... mad everyone saying they are shite or limited players for weeks and months and then.... are the players huddling after and saying we are potentially one of the best team in this fn league and slapping each other and g’ing each other up cause They should be. Our full squad is already very good.
Few more Bruno type signings and we will be seriously back on track. Sancho
and maybe someone like Tonal as a project. If he doesnt step up
That’s cool. It feels likeItalian signings don’t do do that well in the P recently but this lad is someone who seems like he can pass a ball anywhere and will keep getting up And trying. Give him a few years to try to learn to run a bigger team.
If he fails ok but his talent is obvious so why not? Punt!!
Hannibal looks like someone who’s absolutely going to play first team for us. Sweet!
Lads. I had a lovely night as a utd fan. Long may it continue!
Few more Bruno type signings and we will be seriously back on track. Sancho
and maybe someone like Tonal as a project. If he doesnt step up
That’s cool. It feels likeItalian signings don’t do do that well in the P recently but this lad is someone who seems like he can pass a ball anywhere and will keep getting up And trying. Give him a few years to try to learn to run a bigger team.
If he fails ok but his talent is obvious so why not? Punt!!
Hannibal looks like someone who’s absolutely going to play first team for us. Sweet!
Lads. I had a lovely night as a utd fan. Long may it continue!
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I still believe We should play with 2 strikers up top if We want to get the best out of him.
I love how competitive Bruno has made him. Their banter on instagram and twitter shows you that good footballers drive other good footballers to perform better. You just feel more inclined to perform when you're playing with someone better than you or equal to your talent
It was a great header but he is so frustrating at times. @GifLord can you gif the situation from 30:15 in the first half?
Why do people care about his overall performance? It's not like he was losing the ball due to poor first touch or control.
If he doesn't score, we can view his overall performance. But he scored today which is what striker does. The goal was beautiful header as well. It was his 9th league goals, I'll be pleased with minimum 15 league goals from him by end of this season.
If he doesn't score, we can view his overall performance. But he scored today which is what striker does. The goal was beautiful header as well. It was his 9th league goals, I'll be pleased with minimum 15 league goals from him by end of this season.
The consistency to run at defenders and the will to influence the game?? Always
Playing with good players doesn’t make you run harder and give 100%.
There was a moment yesterday where we broke forward in the first half and he was literally jogging into the box, even my missus was laughing when I pointed it out!
The one where James made the run in front of him?
I know exactly what moment your talking about the guy got tackled and holding on to his left thigh because it was obviously still niggling him and still tried to run the best he could. Even I didn't like what I saw at that moment but when I saw it - I understood why he would jog like that on a counter because he doesn't normally when there's space on the counter. He may be lazy to some supporters but he is not lazy when there's space to attack on the counter. Martial always tries to make those runs on the counter.
When there's space for him to run to he always runs - when it's blocked he may drop deep instead instead of showing tenacity.
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I have always been a Martial apologist, but other than an excellent goal I thought he was pretty disappointing last night. Then again, id be happy to be able to say the same thing every week
Ighalo should have scored.
Goal, but is honestly a hard player to watch.
Held the ball well when he was facing goal but relatively poor with his back to goal. Very rarely attacked the goal even off the ball. The one occasion he did he bangs in a sublime goal with his head.
Static throughout most of the game. He is a paradox! So much talent and potential and yet so inconsistent, and at times you wonder if he’s on the pitch.
Saying that, he did a fair bit of back tracking today. He was even winning headers in his own box defending.
Personally I’d like to see him stay up the pitch and become the proverbial goal poacher. Alas, great goal today and 3 points in the bag. Well done Anthony.
Static throughout most of the game. He is a paradox! So much talent and potential and yet so inconsistent, and at times you wonder if he’s on the pitch.
Saying that, he did a fair bit of back tracking today. He was even winning headers in his own box defending.
Personally I’d like to see him stay up the pitch and become the proverbial goal poacher. Alas, great goal today and 3 points in the bag. Well done Anthony.
More to come from Ighalo. Hold on to your hats everyone!
Not going to lie, aside from the goal I thought he was probably our worst player. He loses the ball so many times it is very frustrating at times. Did very well for the goal though. We just need to see him in that position more, and he will get double the amount of goals.
Glad he got the goal because that was not a good game from him otherwise. He has to get a lot better and holding the ball up and not allowing himself to be bullied by the defenders.
Average game, but a good goal, and the type of goals expected more from him. He needs to be in the box more, and learn to position and make better runs as a striker. Once we get players back, and improve our midfield his most important job will be putting the ball in the net.
To be a bit positive... It was an absolute belting header. The sort of thing you'd expect from Giroud or someone... To get ahead of the defender, get his head on it and guide it in like that is absolutely top class.
The header was for a large part the product of great delivery, it was a quality header but people seem to underestimate the accuracy of the delivery, goalscorers are nothing without it. When I see people praise James for his incredibly bad crosses, who look pretty but are continuously miles away from anyone and then lambast AWB who sometimes misses his crosses but at least he tries to find a teammate, he doesn't kick it randomly somewhere in the box.
It was an excellent delivery but it was into an area. Martial was not free and wasn’t picked out - his movement was equally important in scoring that goal. If Martial remains static that ball lands on the defenders head.
The fact we still don't know how to get the best out of him suggests it's his issue at this point. I still think we're best off selling in the summer or next if we can get a quality replacement in.
I'd sell him for £60m and replace him with Jiminez.
Good shout. I get the feeling Martial will never be the player we want him to be. His desire for goals isn't strong enough, and that's the only side to his game that's good enough.
It wasn't in a random area, it was within Martial's reach which isn't a given with this team. Picking a player doesn't mean that you target his forehead or his foot but that you play the ball in an area where he specifically can relatively easily connect with the ball.
Dembele seems to be the player we are after, I dont really have an opinion on Dembele as I've never really seen him. Will be interesting to see how Ighalo goes for the remainder of the season too, if he bags some goals I could see United cashing in on Martial & Pogba in the summer.
I hate this since he scored let’s forget the performance approach. Its a terrible way of seeking improvements and doesn’t help solve the problem of why his general play is declining as of late.
I think he isn’t trying as hard because he might be slightly injured. There was an occasion when we got a break with Williams and martial didn’t bother driving into the box fast as possible like he usually does. Mind you he was clutching his left thigh minutes before that. I also dont think our coaching staff are very good at running training sessions because there are too many injuries occurring as of late.
The thing is AWB tried to anticipate where martial would be unlike James who whips it wherever he THINKS the attacker should be. It’s a lazy approach by Dan James and lacks creativity. He does it all the time which hinders us. Then you get posters on here blaming attackers for not being in the right position when clearly its impossible for them to teleport To the near post from the edge of the box in seconds. AWB made it easy for martial to get ahead of Christensen which is what most wingers usually do. It’s a criticism I’d like to see Dan improve on as the season goes by. He can’t keep whipping it far post when evidently nobody is ever there.
Because he is shit
And maybe because he is shit
Because he can't be arsed and he is shit
His left thigh is also shit
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... think he's shit too, which is why I reckon we'll be looking to replace him in the summer.
He's had more than his fair chance to improve. Every player around him is either improving or being replaced. There are only two options for him and he isn't doing one of them currently so he best pull those socks up pretty sharpish or he'll be out.
It’s never just a random area, Wan-Bissaka, James or whoever. Obviously crosses will not always be within a player’s reach and the reasons for that are plentiful.
I reject that. The nice bit of movement was very unlike Martial.
I actually can't believe how frequently I come across the worst post I've ever seen on here but the caf continues to amaze me. You come off as a child when you reply to everything with "he is shit", I've seen more constructive arguments from toddlers.
You would expect more from a ''best noobie promoted 2019''
I would expect more from most children. We're on a forum dedicated to the discussion of United, which should mean constructively analysing our games, not repeatedly call one of our best players shit in the same post without any justification.You would expect more from a ''best noobie promoted 2019''
It was meant in a semi jokey tone dude actually but clearly missed the target, I can only grovel.
I do think he's a bit shit though.
His work rate is poor and must improve, that's absolutely clear. But no good is very harsh considering he's just scored a fine header and is having a decent year in front of goal.
You're right of course. I just get a bit tired of some of the football related discussions and my boredom came out, should have kept my fingers to myself.
Right, so you think he's shit, yet your post calling him shit was a joke?
Can you go a bit further on why you think he's shit?
Fair, I seem to have taken this poorly.
He is not good enough and was having an absolute mare before and after the goal.
He cannot hold it up, loses the ball constantly, has lost the ability to dribble past players and is not quick at all. All of that is before mentioning his work rate which is derisory at best.
Igalho showed more in the 5 minutes that he was on than Martial did.
I'd get rid in the summer, maybe some mug will pay us £50m or so and we can get someone in who is a proper centre forward.
He cannot hold it up, loses the ball constantly, has lost the ability to dribble past players and is not quick at all. All of that is before mentioning his work rate which is derisory at best.
Igalho showed more in the 5 minutes that he was on than Martial did.
I'd get rid in the summer, maybe some mug will pay us £50m or so and we can get someone in who is a proper centre forward.
Of course, for the sake of making up for my strop.
The guy has all the talent in the world. We know he has the ability to match. We've seen glimpses of it. Then it disappeared. We made excuses for him. Shunted out to the left. Lost his number. He's young, still developing.
This has been going on for 2 years or more. So, he has the talent, he has the ability, he has his number back, he is playing in his preferred position and yet still ... nothing, we are still waiting for this amazing player to show up. Well, rightly or wrongly dude, I've decided he isn't going to show up. We're waiting for something that isn't going to arrive.
Sure, he scores some goals, some nice ones too but there's something missing with him. Call it what you want, lack of desire, lack of killer instinct, lack of confidence or maybe just plain old lack of ambition and drive or bad attitude. The fact remains he has everything he needs to become a beast of a footballer, I've said it so many times about him but he just does not 'take it' or drive forward.
All the best strikers have one thing in common, the drive and killer instinct to get that ball in the back of the net whenever possible. AM has not got this and I doubt he will get it because that is an attribute that you can't train. All his other attributes, speed, technical ability and talent are worth nothing if there isn't the drive there to connect all the dots.
So something is definitely a bit shit about him. We've seen players like this in football before and it is so frustrating.
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