Alright lad. Best start saving 20p a week so you can afford to pay me!No it’s not if we have less point next season than now but are top of the League your not going to argue with me that we haven’t improved
Alright lad. Best start saving 20p a week so you can afford to pay me!No it’s not if we have less point next season than now but are top of the League your not going to argue with me that we haven’t improved
Im sure you love to have a boss who has no clue and is not successful at allThat’s actually refreshing. We got a manager that has to better himself by learning every day. He makes mistakes and he has to stand tall or feck off. Sounds like a real life human?
I am my own boss. That said, Ole has a clue and has been pretty successful. Let’s see how this go.Im sure you love to have a boss who has no clue and is not successful at all
I think Poch is brought up for his overall performance for Southampton and Spurs. It's not like Ole has a great record in his two stints in the PL so far. My favourite choice would be Nagelsmann, but my feeling is that unless our run of form til the end of the season is terrible is that Ole will get at least another season.Poch is one manager I dont want near us. Pretty much zero success and his comments about trophies are for egos certainly ain't the type of manager we need to be running things for next 3 to 4 years, if we are going to get rid of Ole.
He has quite the following too Poch. 2nd coming of christ with some
If the club where to replace Ole I would like them to be adventurous and go for one of the german managers. The football they play is delightful.
I’ve already spent the money you’ll owe me, in my head.Alright lad. Best start saving 20p a week so you can afford to pay me!
come on now, everyone should learn on the jobMan United should not have a manager learning on the job. Even more importantly, we shouldn't have a manager whose players make comments that he's learnijng on the job, its really patronising and looks terrible. What are we, Make a Wish Foundation or something? We may as well be.
I don't remember players disrespecting LVGNothing indicates that the players don't respect him.
Big difference from all three other post-SAF managers, who were either disliked or disrespected in one way or another (which you could spin in different ways, granted - the players themselves, as in: their professionalism and attitude, could be questioned here). Bottom line, though - there isn't anything which indicates that Ole has in any way lost the dressing room.
Very good post. Agree with everything apart I was always and I am still always looking forward to our games. Regardless of our status.Times have changed and ruling with fear doesn’t work anymore. OGS worked with the youngsters and has experience of that. I like the fact a couple of players have said he is learning, who expected otherwise? Who thought Ole was going to win the league in his first season? I’d rather see players give honest opinions than the same PR fed crap.
None of us really knows what goes on behind the scenes, but given performances recently I’d say he still has that dressing room. They wouldn’t be performing like they are if he didn’t, which means learning or not they still have belief. You just need to watch the last games of Jose’s tenure to see what a lost dressing room looked like.
We need to move on from the past; the Fergie years were spectacular but now we need to build a new era in the club, a new cult of heroes. Can OGS spearhead that new era? Who knows, I certainly don’t. I’m currently pretty excited about the rest of the season though. I think Ole’s tactics are working, apparently with The Messiah being the one to unlock it all. Imagine how many goals Rashford will get linking with Bruno. He was wanting this performance from Lingard or Pereira who just weren’t able to do it. A rising tide lifts all boats, and Bruno might just be that tide. None of the big names we brought in have had this much impact on the other players around him although some certainly started well.
Let’s see what happens against Everton and City. I’m looking forward to watching a United games again now.
LVG sent individual e-mails to players, highlighting what they needed to work on - which they (how many "they" were is uncertain) began to ignore after a while, because they felt it was silly and too kindergarten-ish. This emerged after he was sacked and was reported by reputable sources. Just one example. His authoritarian, school master style wasn't appreciated on the whole by the more experienced squad members by all accounts.I don't remember players disrespecting LVG
OkLVG sent individual e-mails to players, highlighting what they needed to work on - which they (how many "they" were is uncertain) began to ignore after a while, because they felt it was silly and too kindergarten-ish. This emerged after he was sacked and was reported by reputable sources. Just one example. His authoritarian, school master style wasn't appreciated on the whole by the more experienced squad members by all accounts.
I stress that this doesn't necessarily paint LVG in a terrible light - as such. At the time my reaction was - actually - that the players ought to have a good look at themselves.
Successfull people with a clue, are usually people who never stops learning.Im sure you love to have a boss who has no clue and is not successful at all
Tactics or playing style? I don't understand. The mantra used to be "no tactics", never did anyone complain much about style. Of course, it may be you are the exception. How do you separate style from tactics, anyway?Tactics or playing style? Every coach has tactics he’s style is just Mourinho esq. He gets away with it because he’s not Mourinho. We’ve got a big game tomorrow he’ll probably do the same tactics as Chelsea. I don’t care if it gets us the points... however I really didn’t care if Mourinho’s tactics won us a league But when are we going to get fed up of this 6 years of dire football.
I refer you to the rest of your own post. Pot kettle and all that.“Man Utd should not have a manager that is learning on the job”
This sounds like a 15 year old with literally no life experience.
In fact the majority of negative arguments at this very time towards Ole sound childish and stupid.
Why is Matic playing some of his best football he has at Utd for Ole?
Nobody is using critical thinking before they type these stupid arguments which leads me to believe that a lack of maturity and life experience is behind these weak, stupid arguments.
IF YOUR GRANDPARENTS ARE IN THEIR 70s AND KNOW HOW TO CONTACT YOU USING SMART PHONES AND EMOJIS AND KEEPING UP WITH CURRENT AFFAIRS USING TECHNOLOGY...GUESS WHAT???? THEY’RE LEARNING ON THE JOB!!!!
WE ARE ALL LEARNING ON THE JOB! INCLUDING THE WORLDS CURRENT BEST MANAGER, WHETHER THATS KLOPP OR PEP!!
Sometimes you got to make it real clear for those who post without thinking. If you thought the caps and basic examples of life learning is childish and stupid the post was not for you.I refer you to the rest of your own post. Pot kettle and all that.
Well the content was equally stupid to be fair.Sometimes you got to make it real clear for those who post without thinking. If you thought the caps and basic examples of life learning is childish and stupid the post was not for you.
Keep it moving.
Ighalo was a necessary signing rather than a panic one. We only had one fit striker by the time the winter window arrived, forcing Ole to make additions to that area. I could be splitting hairs here, but I believe there is a subtle difference between being forced into a decision and one bourne from panic.You’re definition of “panic buy” is very odd Random.
These were buys that the manager made hoping for instant success but they weren’t “panic buys” at all, not unless you completely ditch the dictionary meaning for “panic”.
The definition of a panic signing is Ighalo, made because our manager and recruitment team had focused way too heavily on the future and not enough on the present, then ended up 8th or 9th in the league by the end of Jan with serious squad/injury issues.
Well they can explain that. But style of play is how your team plays football. Tactics are what you use to nullify your opposition. Using us as an example. What Ole did yo best Spurs last season using two false 9’s playing as wingers with Lingard down the middle. Similarly used by Mourinho to beat Conte the year before.Tactics or playing style? I don't understand. The mantra used to be "no tactics", never did anyone complain much about style. Of course, it may be you are the exception. How do you separate style from tactics, anyway?
I dont really see how you can disregard how the season finishes, its the overall indication of his and the squads performance.Surprised these sort of threads keep going. It’s as clear as day things are really coming together now, regardless of how the season finishes. He’s clearly tactically astute, the players love him, the players play for him, his signings are all on point, the style of play is evolving and entertaining, we’ve cleared a load of crap out the club. If we finish top 4 or with a trophy we’ve had a great season and will only get better. No need to reset this process when we are only 1 year in to it. Ive loved the Ole era so far to be honest best times since Fergie.
Yes, he definitely was but he shed his L plates long before. Ole makes amateur managerial moves at times, highly concerning for a bloke who's been managing for 10yrs.come on now, everyone should learn on the job
you don't think Fergie learned? he was constantly learning and adapting, as all good managers should
LVG sent individual e-mails to players, highlighting what they needed to work on - which they (how many "they" were is uncertain) began to ignore after a while, because they felt it was silly and too kindergarten-ish. This emerged after he was sacked and was reported by reputable sources. Just one example. His authoritarian, school master style wasn't appreciated on the whole by the more experienced squad members by all accounts.
See this attitude pisses me off . We are United . What in hell does that even start to mean ?Decent is not good enough. We are United, our aim should be to compete to win the epl and cl, with Ole we wont. If you are happy with a top 4 finish...with another 200m we might make it.
Example?Yes, he definitely was but he shed his L plates long before. Ole makes amateur managerial moves at times, highly concerning for a bloke who's been managing for 10yrs.
Sure, wouldn't be surprised to see that if/when he gets fired.Damage limitation.
Both of whom went down the route of trusting past players to manage them with disastrous results...It means nothing, tell that to AC Milan or Liverpool or Arsenal .
I'd say Ancelotti did pretty well for Milan. Dalglish for Liverpool too (the first time).Both of whom went down the route of trusting past players to manage them with disastrous results...
Both of whom went down the route of trusting past players to manage them with disastrous results...
Or even worse - a person who actually tolerates players speaking in media, rather than LvG or Mourinho who would have put the player on the transferlist. Some people seem to think management by fear is good - usually the same people who has never tried it.That’s actually refreshing. We got a manager that has to better himself by learning every day. He makes mistakes and he has to stand tall or feck off. Sounds like a real life human?
In fairness - all managers learn on the job. A manager who learns nothing in 3 years will be fired because there will be other managers who learn a lot in the same period.Man United should not have a manager learning on the job. Even more importantly, we shouldn't have a manager whose players make comments that he's learnijng on the job, its really patronising and looks terrible. What are we, Make a Wish Foundation or something? We may as well be.
Pochettino once quipped “Trophies are only good for ego.”Award winner for deluded post of the day.
In fairness - all managers learn on the job. A manager who learns nothing in 3 years will be fired because there will be other managers who learn a lot in the same period.
Even Ferguson admitted he made lots of mistakes. Every manager makes tons of mistakes - every season, but the best managers are the ones who learn the most. Personally - I never forget my biggest mistakes at school, or at my office - but I dont remember hundreds of things I did right.
I don't think players have a problem with a manager who admits he isn't God - I think they have a much bigger problem with a manager who thinks he is God. And I think they have the most problems with a manager who makes mistakes and doesn't correct them.
This. Add it and reopen the poll someone?I think the poll should have a 'give Ole until the end of the season, then decide' option, which is what I'd go for