Tahith Chong | Signed a new deal until 2022

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Still reckon he’ll turn out better than James. Send him out on loan if he signs.
 

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Keeping him makes sense in my opinion. We can assume Lingard is leaving, so Chong would takes his place as 5th choice winger at fraction of the cost.
 

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These assessments of Chong aren't very fair. He's young, desperate to impress when he gets on and was usually in very poor sides who had multiple players struggling in their own right. Those are terrible conditions for a youngster who already looks like he's a bag of nerves or overeagerness out there.

I think there's a couple of leaps in development due for Chong, not least when he fills out and isn't flung to the ground like a rag doll in the men's game. He does, however, need a loan to iron his game out, which he needs to understand is for his own good, especially so when the likelihood of us going *big* at RWF this summer is apparent.

Not sure he'll become United class, but it wouldn't be the surprise some are making out in here if, after his growing pains, he's a lot, lot better than we've seen to date.
 

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TBF to Chong he has been better every time he has come on. The last game he was looking a lot sharper. Hit the cross bar didn't he?

The club see him everyday and obviously think there is something there, the signings they have made so far have all been spot on. I'm gonna go with the coaches who see him and know him. 30k a week isn't much to a club like us and he's very young, clearly still filling out too.
 

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I guess one way to look at it is we pay him 1.5M p/y in wages. If we're able to sell him for >3M in a couple of years, we'd come out ahead. Not that bad a deal for a youth player.

/ducks before MBAs come in with a NPV analysis.
 

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There's obviously a good reason other than financial why we want to keep him.

I would imagine the coaching staff see something which hasn't manifested itself on the senior team pitch yet.
 

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who changed the title of this thread haha

Chong may end up signing but for reliability I'd always take Fabrizio Romano other daily mail
The Daily Mail isn't the reason whichever moderator edited the title, changed the title.

It's interesting to see this thread because the news here in the Netherlands is that he actually signed a new contract with Manchester United. I don't really like this because I don't think Chong will ever be a Manchester United level player, he should just go back to Feyenoord and see if could get game time at that level.

It's his agent Erkan Alkan of the 'Stellar Group', who seems to have directly confirmed this to a Dutch newspaper.
The player's agent said he's set to stay.
 

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Needs a loan now then, definitely. These little cameos are doing no one any favours.
 

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He's excellent at youth level but hasn't been able to bring his form into the senior team, although did get a nice assist against Derby. He would benefit massively with a Championship full season loan. Glad he's signed on.
 

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Not bothered either way if I'm honest. If he stays then he needs a loan, preferably to a free flowing Championship team.
 

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He's excellent at youth level but hasn't been able to bring his form into the senior team, although did get a nice assist against Derby. He would benefit massively with a Championship full season loan. Glad he's signed on.
Did he get an assist? I thought Shaw assisted Ighalo's first and Mata his second, while Shaw's goal was a bit of pinball before it went in?
 

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Tahith Chong has apparently signed a new contract with us according to that ITK account that has not been wrong yet as far as I'm aware. Take it as you will I guess.

That account also seems to suggest Sancho will come if we get CL football and that Pogba still wants to leave.
 

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30k now and we wonder how lingard is on 100k. Not sure if have learnt our lesson.
 

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These assessments of Chong aren't very fair. He's young, desperate to impress when he gets on and was usually in very poor sides who had multiple players struggling in their own right. Those are terrible conditions for a youngster who already looks like he's a bag of nerves or overeagerness out there.

I think there's a couple of leaps in development due for Chong, not least when he fills out and isn't flung to the ground like a rag doll in the men's game. He does, however, need a loan to iron his game out, which he needs to understand is for his own good, especially so when the likelihood of us going *big* at RWF this summer is apparent.

Not sure he'll become United class, but it wouldn't be the surprise some are making out in here if, after his growing pains, he's a lot, lot better than we've seen to date.
agree with some of the sentiment here, but contrast it with Billy Gilmour at Chelsea, who’s playing a role with far more pressure and expectation.
 

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I would love Chong to prove me wrong but I don't see him equalling Adnan Januzaj, nevermind becoming the kinda player Rashford is. £30k a week? He should give his agent a massive bonus.
 

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If he’s getting 30 grand on a new contract, how much is Greenwood presently on now? Surely Mason is going to ask double of that when it’s eventually his turn for a renewal
 

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30k is about the going rate for a Premier League squad player. Gets him tied down long term and focused on his development.

If he turns into a player, then it will look like a smart investment. Not to mention that another home grown squad player would be great. At worst, we will sell him for 10 million in a year or two and get it all back. Smart move imo and glad he will get a chance.

Hope he doesn’t read this thread before signing :D
 

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I’ve seen enough of Chong at youth level to see the sense in keeping him at the club!

His slight frame has meant he’s struggled when given first team minutes but he’s been very productive at youth levels and there’s clearly a talented player in there!

At age 20/21 a loan, while he matures physically, will do him the world of good and at that point we’ll know if he’s able to earn a spot in our first team
 

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Hope he turns out a good player if we keep him. But I hope he doesn't turn out to be another Periera who we keep giving chances for no apparent reason.
 

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I'm usually against loaning out players. My reasoning is that an upcoming youngster needs to be surrounded by world class players daily to know the level they need to aspire to be at.

But I think Chong need a stint on loan, preferably in a Championship team where he can hopefully get regular game time. He need to play in a higher level than the u23 but he is not ready for the premier league yet.

Even though Chong has been underwhelming for United I think there is a great player in there. A loan would do wonders for him.
 

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If Chong is worth 30k/week Mason is easily worth about 200k.
 

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Not that crazy about him to be honest, even having watched him since he arrived at the academy. He is effective there because his pace stands out and he is against youngsters who don't know how to adjust for it. His other assets are all good but nothing special, and not enough to take him into our first team in my opinion.

Garner and Gomes are the two from that set who I'd be disappointed to lose at this point.
THIS. Now they are talking about 30K/week contract for Chong, for a player who is not ready for the first team (and likely never will be). If we are going to plunk down 30K/week for Chong, we should expect double for Garner and Gomes, and then it really does start looking like silly money. At the same time, it's not my money, so I don't care how much we spend, but I think we're wasting a spot in the team by keeping Chong around.

Chris Eagles at 18 and Kieran Richardson at 18 were better players than Chong, and neither of them made it at United. At some point we have to let go of sentimentality and move on the players who are not going to be good enough instead of worrying about squad depth. Eagles was slighter of build and frame, and Chong is already 2 years older than Eagles was in his debut. At reserves/youth, Chong looks good but he does not look a cut above the others out there, the way Garner and Gomes do.
 
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What are his key strengths? I'm not criticising him I genuinely don't know.
He's quite tenacious and has good work rate. He will bust a gut to get back to the final third and turnover possession so he can charge forward with the ball again. I'm trying to think who a good example to compare him to is. His end product around the box isn't much above average but I don't see why he can't improve it. I think he has all the tools to develop into a hard working utility winger that supports both the attack and the defence a bit like Park used to do. That might not be really exciting to some people on here but that sort of player is just the type of squad player that gives a really good option to a team competing for trophies.

I don't think he's been able to show the best of himself in the first team yet, he's been played very wide and asked to stretch the play and I think people have been disappointed that he's not been beating defenders for fun and whipping in crosses and getting shots away. I think we would see a lot more from him if he was given more freedom to cover the entire side of the pitch from box to box, linking up with players in earlier phases and attacking through the middle of the pitch occasionally.
 

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He's quite tenacious and has good work rate. He will bust a gut to get back to the final third and turnover possession so he can charge forward with the ball again. I'm trying to think who a good example to compare him to is. His end product around the box isn't much above average but I don't see why he can't improve it. I think he has all the tools to develop into a hard working utility winger that supports both the attack and the defence a bit like Park used to do. That might not be really exciting to some people on here but that sort of player is just the type of squad player that gives a really good option to a team competing for trophies.

I don't think he's been able to show the best of himself in the first team yet, he's been played very wide and asked to stretch the play and I think people have been disappointed that he's not been beating defenders for fun and whipping in crosses and getting shots away. I think we would see a lot more from him if he was given more freedom to cover the entire side of the pitch from box to box, linking up with players in earlier phases and attacking through the middle of the pitch occasionally.
Thanks for that.
 

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I'm glad he's staying. He's a talented left-footed winger who can be an asset in the near future for us no question. As others have said, he's primarily featured in poor sides, so it's not been the easiest environment for him, yet he's improving with every chance. He was promising in the last match vs Brugge, very close to scoring & getting an assist for Fred too. I'm looking forward to his development in the future here.
 

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He's been very good at youth level, only played a handful of games for the first team and is out of contract in the summer. Not sure why people are surprised he's getting a new deal and if they think £30k p/w is a lot for a youth player becoming squad player then they'd be surprised at a lot of other wages.
Thank you for such a sensible post in a thread that has been a difficult read.
 

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He's quite tenacious and has good work rate. He will bust a gut to get back to the final third and turnover possession so he can charge forward with the ball again. I'm trying to think who a good example to compare him to is. His end product around the box isn't much above average but I don't see why he can't improve it. I think he has all the tools to develop into a hard working utility winger that supports both the attack and the defence a bit like Park used to do. That might not be really exciting to some people on here but that sort of player is just the type of squad player that gives a really good option to a team competing for trophies.

I don't think he's been able to show the best of himself in the first team yet, he's been played very wide and asked to stretch the play and I think people have been disappointed that he's not been beating defenders for fun and whipping in crosses and getting shots away. I think we would see a lot more from him if he was given more freedom to cover the entire side of the pitch from box to box, linking up with players in earlier phases and attacking through the middle of the pitch occasionally.
Do you think he could hopefully develop similar to a Douglas Costa, who roams throughout the midfield at times, attacking from deep?
 

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If he’s getting 30 grand on a new contract, how much is Greenwood presently on now? Surely Mason is going to ask double of that when it’s eventually his turn for a renewal
I kind of gave up caring about how much players cost and what they earn, because in the end, what's the point? If the clubs want to and can pay that, then fair enough.

However, as you say, if Chong can get £30k, and Lingard is on £100k for example. I would not be hesitant in saying that Greenwood is going to be better than both of these players by a significant margin when it's all done. His next contract might not reach £100k, but I wouldn't be surprised if it does.
 

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I want him to stay, but I also want to loan him out, preferably to the dutch league. There's potential there but experience and success in an easier league can only help his confidence, as well as further develop his attacking game, which he is not getting through cameos and subpar performances in makeshift sides.