Could they void the PL due to the Coronavirus? | No | Resuming June 17th

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Zlatan 7 said:
feck that idea. How can you continue a league a year later when most of the clubs will have different players than when they started the season. Nah
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What's the alternative?

1. Declare the season void (unfair on Leeds and Liverpool)
2. Take current standings (unfair on Villa and Sheffield)
3. Delay until it's past, with the peak estimated early June
4. A play off system for top 8 and bottom 8 of each league (incredibly unfair all around)
 

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Witchking said:
A better idea would be to combine this season and the next. Continue playing in August. Same points as they are currently which gives Liverpool the advantage they deserve plus all lower leagues do the same. Suspend the CL and EL for the season or finish off the remainder of the games from August till next may. All leagues across the world may have to agree though.
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Can't do that
 

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I think it's very plausible that domestic football will return before european football.

It might save a few headaches too.

Just void this season. Start again when it is safe to do so, but have no european football for the first year. Then you qualify as normal.

feck knows what you do with the winners spot and Europa League winners spot. Presumably they'd use the 2018/19 standings for that
 

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redshaw said:
With Liverpool, they have hit a losing streak, you never know if the first two thirds of the season are really catching up on them, how the CL exit can affect them and big injuries to key players that might've accrued next week or the week after. City after faltering could easily go on a 10 game winning run to get 87 points and beat them on GD.

Liverpool could draw 5 and lose 4 and end up on 87 points with their 9 games left. Teams can collapse, anxiety creeps in, people slip up. ;)

Resuming in June is also not right as Liverpool's fitness and mental fatigue is reset and could see them easily win most of the games, it would be like restarting. You have to win over the course of a season with all the ups and downs. Spurs were flying high once in recent years and fell away in the last 10 games. Having a restart/break could see Spurs winning the title, it's an unfair helping hand and not what a season is.

Like Judas is saying, all the positions need to be accounted for, Liverpool's results affect all the standings.

Might be best to void it, would suck for United as we're having a strong finish and new and young players really playing well, could've got 4th or won the EL but you can't give us 4th now or to anyone really, every team could say if we just play a few more games we'd be further up.
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The mental gymnastic you did to give a "plausible" argument to your wish to see Liverpool not crowned is quite something :lol: :lol::lol:
 
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sewey89 said:
I think it's very plausible that domestic football will return before european football.

It might save a few headaches too.

Just void this season. Start again when it is safe to do so, but have no european football for the first year. Then you qualify as normal.

feck knows what you do with the winners spot and Europa League winners spot. Presumably they'd use the 2018/19 standings for that
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Less money push wages down and so I can see big teams swapping players (via transfer market) to get equivalent players on their books for less wages.......
 

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The last club to get infected should be awarded the Premier League trophy. It's a game of last man standing at this point.
 

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Lynty said:
What's the alternative?

1. Declare the season void (unfair on Leeds and Liverpool)
2. Take current standings (unfair on Villa and Sheffield)
3. Delay until it's past, with the peak estimated early June
4. A play off system for top 8 and bottom 8 of each league (incredibly unfair all around)
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How is it unfair? They are deservedly where they are?
 

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How is it unfair? They are deservedly where they are?
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They both have games in hand, which could take them to safety or European places and the huge financial benefits that includes.
 

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How is it unfair? They are deservedly where they are?
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Well sheffield United are winning their game in hand away from being 5th, which puts them in a CL spot with City suspended. Pretty big deal I'd say.
 

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Lynty said:
They both have games in hand, which could take them to safety or European places and the huge financial benefits that includes.
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Agree. Clubs lawyers would be all over it. If the league was cancelled, then as @sewey89 said I think we would have to cancel both the CL and EL for one season for all the leagues, but no way in hell the big clubs who have a sniff of CL would agree to that, unless they have some sort of mini competition on the side. It is going to be one hell of a mess.
 

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@dariopol - The situation is unlikely to improve dramatically until the summer, late May or June. Given that there are still nine or 10 rounds in the top leagues in the UK is a play-off scenario a possibility? What would that even look like? Liverpool play Man City for the PL?
I can see how it could happen, purely because, as you say, there are nine games to be played, plus three FA Cup rounds, plus Europe. Given a clear window, you are looking at about six weeks to complete the calendar, with midweek games.
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I support the idea of a playoff between the top 8 teams for the title. 100%. :lol:
 
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Because I’ve seen more premier league/football league contracts than I can count.
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Fair enough, your average Joe obviously hasn't, and would have no clue.

Maybe rather than a short, unhelpful response, you could have led with the fact that your privy to Premier league footballers contracts and you actually know how they're worded.
 

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Lynty said:
What's the alternative?

1. Declare the season void (unfair on Leeds and Liverpool)
2. Take current standings (unfair on Villa and Sheffield)
3. Delay until it's past, with the peak estimated early June
4. A play off system for top 8 and bottom 8 of each league (incredibly unfair all around)
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Declare the season void. It can’t be finished so no other choice.
Pretty straight forward to me, seems so for the Germans too
 

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I wonder if players/agents will push to get transfers sorted now, seeing as we're not going to have much of a summer window at this rate.
 

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I know w all know this is how it works, but the Rules of the Premier League say that this is how it HAS to work.
The winners of the league will be the team with most points at the end of the season, and the teams relegated the three with the least points at the end of the season….which might sound like stating the obvious, but it also says that in a season each team will play each other team twice, home and away. So unless that happens, the season can't, under the rules everyone signed up to, be said to be at its end. I don't think there's any way legally they can determine any placings based on the number of games played to date.
The FA Rules say the season must end on 1 June, but the FA Council has the discretionary power to extend that date.
 

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matt10000 said:
Mon 09 Mar - 278 cases in UK
Tue 10 Mar - 373
Wed 11 Mar - 456

Average increase over last three days of about 1.28 per day.

So projected infections at same rate would be something like:
Thu 12 Mar 585
Fri 13 Mar 750
Sat 14 mar 961
Sun 15 Mar 1,232
Mon 16 Mar 1,580
Tue 17 Mar 2,026
Wed 18 Mar 2,597
Thu 19 Mar 3,330
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Thu 26 Mar 18,963
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Thu 2 Apr 107,999
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Thu 9th April 615,077
Fri 10th Apr 788,605
Sat 11th Apr 1,011,088

By Saturday 11th April four weeks this Saturday would be over one million at todays rate.

The only way to slow it down is reduce human contact - it is NOT STUPID it is COMMON SENSE!!
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If anything my projection is under estimating the rates being reported as the actuals are higher.....

Thu 12 Mar 585 actual 590
Fri 13 Mar 750 actual 798

By 3rd April no of cases could be at least 100,000 BUT this assumes that nothing more is done to slow it down and I am sure additional measures will be put in place.

However, I can't see the EPL picking up where it left off on 3rd April or any other time before next season to be honest.
 

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The notion of what’s fair and unfair being bandied about in this thread is so weird in this current situation. The word is meaningless when you consider what we’re actually dealing with. Yeah, some fans will have their feelings hurt because their club is doing well. And, ok, i know that doesn't cover the entire extent of it as the repercussion for some clubs could be quite severe, but this is an unprecedented incident. Who the feck knows what’s going to happen. Many are going to die, we know that.

Quite simply, it may just not be logistically possible for the league to simply continue. That’s just the reality of the situation - it's got feck all to do with agendas or biases. Things are obviously going to get much worse than they currently are, and nobody quite knows how truly bad it’s going to be, so this bollocks about fair or unfair is ridiculous.
 

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It will be difficult being without football for a while. Watching United is like being a dope addict, I need my fix.

Maybe when things cool down a bit they can start showing live training sessions?
 

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VintageWhatnots said:
Fair enough, your average Joe obviously hasn't, and would have no clue.

Maybe rather than a short, unhelpful response, you could have led with the fact that your privy to Premier league footballers contracts and you actually know how they're worded.
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Not an unreasonable point, but I am also “working” at the moment :p
 

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BusbyMalone said:
The notion of what’s fair and unfair being bandied about in this thread is so weird in this current situation. The word is meaningless when you consider what we’re actually dealing with. Yeah, some fans will have their feelings hurt because their club is doing well. And, ok, i know that’s not the extent of it as the repercussion for some clubs could be quite severe, but this is an unprecedented incident. Who the feck knows what’s going to happen. Many are going to die, we know that.

Quite simply, it may just not be logistically possible for the league to simply continue. That’s just the reality of the situation - it's got feck all to do with agendas or biases. Things are obviously going to get much worse than they currently are, and nobody quite knows how truly bad it’s going to be, so this bollocks about fair or unfair is ridiculous.
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Exactly, coronavirus isn't fair and doesn't care who you are or where your football team is in any given league. No one planned it life is just unfair!
 

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It's going to be a lottery as well. No pre season, players fitness is going to be all over the place if we resume in late May or June.
 
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