Good point, the rich pricks cannot even escape to foreign countries anymore as each countries has now closed its borders (or is in the process to). We all help each other or we all suffer together, rich people will get infected, that's without a doubt too
SARS CoV-2 coronavirus / Covid-19 (No tin foil hat silliness please)
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As of 9am on 21 March, a total of 72,818 have been tested: 67,800 negative. 5,018 positive. As of 9am, 233 patients who tested positive for coronavirus have sadly died.
So 6k tested from yesterday.
As of 9am on 21 March, a total of 72,818 have been tested: 67,800 negative. 5,018 positive. As of 9am, 233 patients who tested positive for coronavirus have sadly died.
So 6k tested from yesterday.
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The rich will allow their mates in to whereever they want to go.
Yes. I dread it too. They'll be dying on my doorstep. It's coming and no one can stop it.
I sincerely hope the warmer climate there is not very conducive to the survival of the virus outside a host and thus the infamous R0 rate will be significantly lower. Maybe I'm overly optimistic.
With all that that continent already has to contend with, I can only hope coronavirus doesn't get piled on top.
I have been to China too and have good contacts and have been even to Wuhan a few years back. I have been to Bejjing and a few other cities too in the past. What you are saying is correct. China is fairly decentralised in most things. Even the health and Police are decentralised. Even taxation to some extents. The local governments are fairly powerful in their own way. Yes they all belong to the central party but have various degrees of autonomy. The information I got was this was a local issue where the Wuhan administrations messed things up. When Dr. Li reported this they never took him seriously. He then got together with some other doctors and started discussing this issue and the local police even threatened him.
This went up the chain to Beijing who had heard about this flu in Wuhan and send a team to investigate it. They also found that what Dr. Li had said was true and decided to investigate it further. In January they informed WHO and also wrote in the Lancet medical Journal who in turn informed the British Government about the article. The British government ignored the article. By January the whole World knew about this flu. The World had three months to get ready and most did not get ready and now blame the Chinese for them not being ready.
Viruses would come from all over the world and no one country should be blamed for any virus. All countries need to work together in the face of a common enemy like a pandemic.
It is pointless bashing one country. At least China is trying to help other countries by giving equipment and their doctors to help them.
Same, @Arruda thanks you for taking the time to give us your insight.
Why? Patient zero is critical to all this ask any doctor. If you know where it comes from then it helps develop a cure.
I see something like this happening, governements over thrown, complete chaos, civil war in some places. What seemed like a crazy unlikely apocalypse scenario can actually happen.
I would say at that time they didn't believe him and it wasn't until they did the research/testing that they found out he was right that this wasn't just a normal flu out break but something new and far more deadly.
I hope so, it's already above 30°C here and in the next couple of months we'll hit the 40s fairly regularly. We'll find out soon enough
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That only works in horror movies.
I don't really think we can say anything about the mortality rate in Italy as we don't know how many actually infected people there are.
79 new cases in India today, 315 total. Biggest single day jump. Only 16k tests have been done. Dont know what the government is waiting for, we have to go into lockdown asap.
Is it acceptable to give anyone in the supermarket panic buying a good hiding? fecking selfish cnuts really boil my blood.
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No it doesn’t. It helps people know where it came from and how to prevent this from happening again.
Supermarket play a role in this IMHO, I know in some places they limit the number of items allowed for certain things but greed will always prevail, some of them are rubbing their hands because they're exploding their profits.
Same for me, started work for NHS at Leeds General Infirmary Thursday, been traveling back to Bradford and it’s been pretty quiet for me. Seems like most are paying attention but obviously some won’t. Saw a few but not a lot on public transport (My only way to get to work) I noticed it was all older people. I’ve seen some in this thread mention elderly getting on public transport and shopping. Gotta say based on the 4 buses and 2 trains I got, walking round Leeds, it was mostly older people sitting next to each other too.
I think accurately locating patient 0 isn't a great use of resources at the moment. Currently the global concentration needs to be on mitigating the spread and developing the vaccine.
Once it is under control, the investigations into how it spread/started should be conducted in order to learn lessons. It's just priorities.
What stickied thread?
Things to add on the top of my head:
1) Tweets
2) Videos
3) Pictures
4) Web links
| 1 | Vice President | Mike Pence | Republican | |
| 2 | Speaker of the House of Representatives | Nancy Pelosi | Democratic | |
| 3 | President pro tempore of the Senate | Chuck Grassley | Republican | |
| 4 | Secretary of State | Mike Pompeo | Republican | |
| 5 | Secretary of the Treasury | Steven Mnuchin | Republican | |
| 6 | Secretary of Defense | Mark Esper | Republican | |
| 7 | Attorney General | William Barr | Republican | |
| 8 | Secretary of the Interior | David Bernhardt | Republican | |
| 9 | Secretary of Agriculture | Sonny Perdue | Republican | |
| 10 | Secretary of Commerce | Wilbur Ross | Republican | |
| 11 | Secretary of Labor | Eugene Scalia | Republican | |
| 12 | Secretary of Health and Human Services | Alex Azar | Republican | |
| 13 | Secretary of Housing and Urban Development | Ben Carson | Republican |
I stopped at 13 because if it gets to him the world is over.
Italy, Spain and Iran are scary. It's heartbreaking to see the amount of people that are dying around the world of this. Everybody that dies is somebodies father, mother, uncle and aunt. I'm more scared about losing somebody that I care about than I am of dying myself and I don't think that I'm bulletproof in this as I have preexisting conditions or what ever it is that they call them.
A lot of registrar-level doctors I know now especially in hospital are twiddling their thumbs due to cancellation of outpatients. Wondering why we're not receiving PPE training, or training around looking after intubated patient on ventilator or anybody with COVID like symptoms. Now would be the perfect time to run through simulations etc but instead we're just waiting for the tidal wave in April where it will be chaotic and directly impact patient care.
Dont understand the penic buying. At most you self isolate for 2 weeks.
So day one go and buy 2 weeks worth of groceries. By day 8 you'll have ate a week, so go and buy another weeks worth.
You'll always have more or less 2 weeks stock on hand.
There's no call to buy a months worth of food every week. Its physically impossible to get through.
So day one go and buy 2 weeks worth of groceries. By day 8 you'll have ate a week, so go and buy another weeks worth.
You'll always have more or less 2 weeks stock on hand.
There's no call to buy a months worth of food every week. Its physically impossible to get through.
You guys need to rap Nancy in cotton wool until this is over.
Some people are being asked to isolate for 12 weeks.
You need a ventilator for that
Those people arent the ones in the shop panic buying.
People are idiots though. I was in Sainsbury's yesterday and the toilet roll aisle was decimated, what was left? Boxes and boxes of Kleenex....for a respiratory virus...
Unless people cough out their arse, they're selfish morons.
Another day, and we continue to trend almost identically to the Italian trend line. Hopefully the measures will kick in soon.
I’m a virologist
Their combined weight is close to 1000 pounds
True.
This is exactly what is going to happen all over Europe starting in 1 or 2 weeks.