Yeah, I'm in a city of 2.5 million.
I couldn't confidently say . Certainly in Italy and Spain's case their outbreaks were heavily concentrated in specific regions where health services have been overwhelmed in a way that thankfully hasn't happened in the US. I guess another, pessimistic, hypothesis might be that deaths lag the number of new cases and the US only surpassed France and Spain in caseload around 4 days ago. As horrible as it sounds it might simply be that people just haven't had enough time to die.
I don't buy the death lag, Italy was having much more deaths even a week ago. Also, the critical cases in US are only around a thousands. Even if all of them die (which is not gonna happen), still the number of deaths will be less than in Spain, despite that the number of infected is higher. It might be a part of the explanation but not the main part IMO.
Crikey. The gov surely needs to get a hold of this sort of thing
The earlier you start your lockdown the less time you'll have to spend in lockdown.
Pitt the Young.Youngy for PM.
I think Johnson's speech on Monday night was incredibly short of specifics and I'm angry that we're still waiting for them but the one thing he did achieve was making us all scared. I agree, people seemed to act differently today.
The upside to this is that just maybe those stupid cnuts might be the ones who actually end up catching it.
People are socially obediant in China and the lockdown there is more strictly enforced.
While being alone, far from any family. Horrible way to go
Social obedient or fear they may be, but your telling me that in a country of over 1.3 billion they have less deaths then people in Lombardy sure. Hell they tried to cover up the virus and even threatened the doctor who warmed the government to save face. Its a miracle I tell a miracle.
They are probably hiding numbers, considering that they have the tools to control the information. At the same time, it is very plausible that a large decrease in the number of infections (and deaths) has really happened here. Wuhan is still in lockdown after more than 2 months (while US is planning to reopen after 9 days of staying in a much more relaxed lockdown), and the people were more obedient to the rules (not going to parks, beaches and just not respecting the rules).
This old chestnut again.
South Korea have certainly shown the way and what they are doing is very commendable, but Chinese are sending out false information in the height of the problem in China there where less deaths in the whole of China then in Lombardy something is a miss from day one.
But was it not the truth did it not happen.
I think he wasn’t legally able to be more specific in that speech.
From what I understand he was summoned for questioning and pressured by local authorities, which can’t simply be equated with the Chinese state, who weren’t calling the shots in Wuhan that early in the game. Someone wrote pretty extensively about this earlier in the thread, but I can’t say I fancy sifting through a thread that’s growing exponentially for that particular post.
It was fake news.
Fair enough. Very balanced from Graham but it should also be said that it’s also not a good time to be putting an extention of the Presidential term limit into the bill for Trump and I really don’t see a good reason why the Republicans thought they could sneak into the bill a cut in funding to ICE detention centres and regulations relaxed so Hispanic detainees only need to be fed “once every four or five days”. Doesn’t seem like the time or place for these sort of demands.
Wouldn't the number of critically ill be also lagging?
My style of policing!
You’re so right and it repulses me.
precisely my thoughts too. It’s really not a lot we are being asked to do either is it? I mean really, it’s not a lot, and this situation already highlights how far down a really shitty and selfish path a lot of us have gone.
Sure, agree. And that is the parts of the bill that need to be fought (in addition to making sure that the money given to companies don’t go to CEOs, stock buys, bonuses etc), not introducing their own bill which talks about diversity, climate change (something that needs to be taken seriously but not on this bill) or state elections.
Oh shit you actually do take everything you’re told at face value.
I have only joined this thread now sorry did not fancy back tracking to page one. But you cant either prove the fact right or wrong or it did or did not happen.
Look the Chinese have known to cover stuff up so why all of a sudden is this guys dying testament fake news, what a coincident he is no longer with us. but hell those figures coming out of China must be the truth honest.
Have you seen the extreme measures China is taking?
I don’t blame you, that’s why I did a search and found the NPR article.
Do some research and inform yourself first, please. Your post is coming across as a conspiracy rant (dying testament, implying that he was killed etc).
Did I say that the flu hasn't been around? Did I say that statistics don't exist? Did I say that something existed that was neither the flu nor Covid-19?
