What's the backlash been like against that in the UK, considering it was abandoned a couple of weeks in? I imagine people must be furious about it
SARS CoV-2 coronavirus / Covid-19 (No tin foil hat silliness please)
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The media aren't doing their job
General view is that the government inaction and "herd immunity" bullshit will end up having cost a lot of people their lives and that there will be some sort of reckoning about this eventually - possibly in the form of a public enquiry.
Thus far, no backlash at all, though. Most of the media have done an appalling job of holding the government to account.
Media too busy wanking over Boris getting up to have short walks and people are too selfish to think of anything but themselves. Britain is awful.
The main thing is the government are trying to be consistent in the message. 'we are taking scientific and medical advice. Stay at home. Wash hands etc etc' Hancock admits there are problems, ive not seen him or the experts duck questions, in fact he often asks tge journo if they want to clarify more.
Thats unheard of whenever I've watched politicians before.
People seem to want definitive answers, answers regarding exact numbers of tests, exact numbers of ppe exact dates for when the lockdown ends. Thing is, every one of those things depends on so many variables and really ive not heard of any other country that has had all the answers. Germany at the moment seems to me to have had the best control over it it, but even now its too early to say that for sure.
Part of the problem is as other posters have said, we become a little impatient, what started out as unbelievable stories in each country, quickly became reality (though no less shocking might i add) our natural impatience to come through this thing leads us to question every statistic and decision. Its horrible for us all, we all want this nightmare to be over, and when people cant give answers that we want, we get arsey and frustrated.
It's just another short term deadline to keep people focussed. I don't think anyone actually believes it won't be extended again.
Oh, they are.
To be honest, most of the British public barely gave a shit a few weeks ago. I can only go on my experiences but I was literally explaining to everyone that the government "wants you to get corona" before it decides to take any defensive approaches. This was a predicament I saw coming back in January. Shame very few others seemingly could see this happening. I feel sick to stomach witnessing these events.
I'm asking for context only, as I have no idea, but when did other countries implement their own lock-downs compared with the UK's? And what sort of backlash is there going on in Sweden just now? As much as they haven't gone down the 'herd immunity' road, they certainly haven't done anything like what other European countries have.
Hand sanitizer is known to be fantastic for rinsing your eyes, nose and mouth out if you’re rubbing shoulders with people who have the virus.
So two weeks give or take. Imagine how many people got infected in those two weeks.
Haven't heard jack shit.
Someone posted this link a few days ago... gives a timeline of decisions/reasons. Really interesting.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-britain-path-speci-idUSKBN21P1VF
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Yes, they are.
The mainstream media are the mouthpiece of the government, nothing more nothing less. You saw during the election what happens when someone dares to try and step outside the box and criticise the party in power (Boris replaced by a melting ice-block) - the government threaten to remove their broadcasting rights. In fact, that moment alone should have caused serious doubts in the minds of every single UK citizen but the vast majority don't give a feck really.
It doesn't have to be Stalinesque propaganda or Nazi Germany to be government control. Our media has no real freedom of speech, they are puppets of whatever party is in charge. As soon as questions started being asked about PPE, testing etc things all of a sudden went quiet and then the focus is on footballers wages and Boris in hospital and that's it. And no, I'm not suggesting for one second that he wasn't sick.
Fact that our media was in a panic when Italy hit 900+ deaths but when we do so they're going missing is bleeding insane.
Story reads he is there for an unrelated condition, and was only tested due to 'current procedures', unexpectedly tested positive, and is as yet asymptomatic.Sir Kenny Dalglish tests positive for Coronavirus and is in hospital
To Italian United fans.
Are health services free for Italian Public?
If a Corona virus patient gets released from hospital after recovery, is he going to be charged for hospital stay? Oxygen etc if he was on respirator etc?
Are health services free for Italian Public?
If a Corona virus patient gets released from hospital after recovery, is he going to be charged for hospital stay? Oxygen etc if he was on respirator etc?
Around 9% of global deaths on a small island a long way from the source.
Tories doing what tories do.
This crisis has shown how awful media really are.You'd think a forbes journo would actually check out this stuff rather than just making an article from worldometres figures
Deaths per days since 2nd April 65, 58, 54, 67, 66, 53, 47 (although those last 2 days likely to get another 10 or so late figures added to them).
Journo has just seen 100+ for two days on Worldometer and hasn't even researched it to show that these were due to late reports which happen absolutely everywhere.
Seems he is asymptotic. So hopefully he should be just fine.Sir Kenny Dalglish tests positive for Coronavirus and is in hospital
Sanchez earning 600m £/w is more important
But why though I dont perceive them as being like the us media. Ours love a scandal dont they, but nothing seems to be being reported. Even the huge death rates are being played down by the media. Could be collective de sensitivisation to it all.
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Yet everyone keeps telling me how great of a job they’re doing.
Clap. Or something.
We're about to go into lockdown for the weekend. Announced just before midnight, everyone storms out to get a final bit of freedom, and now people are congregating en masse outside and fights are starting all over. Expert strategy for people to beat the shit out of each other and stay inside all weekend recovering.
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Enjoy your shit sandwich, safe in the knowledge that there was no possible better outcome.
Keep calm and don't remove your blinkers.
If any other Party was in power, there'd be frontpages calling for mass resignations & criminal proceedings; they would called 'traitors to the people'.
That's not 'typical leftie whinging' - it's the bloody truth.
That's not 'typical leftie whinging' - it's the bloody truth.
Why would there be backlash here @C'est Moi Cantona at this point?
First off the government don’t run the show on this, the Health Ministry do. The government are focused instead on crises package money, huge paid sick leave etc etc.
We are well informed that there are only two ways out of this and one of them is 12 months minimum away.
I still think people are really struggling to understand that lots of people are going to die over the next 6-12 months, everywhere, it’s awful but it’s a fact. Lockdown’s might slow it in some places although with 4000 cases in again in Italy
today, I think some countries shut the barn door long after the horse had bolted, and people are just passing it around apartment blocks instead.
But after lockdowns, deaths and cases will rise again, that is inevitable.
If Sweden can get through the next 6 months like this, and our restrictions are plausible for that, whilst learning lessons along the way, they will have done “well”.
I can also tell you that Sweden’s regular “death stats” for March and April have hardly differed so far despite Covid-19.
I can also confirm once again that since we started social distancing measures in mid-March the flu and winter tummy bug have dropped off a cliff so what we’re doing is working, even whilst society still functions. Not remotely like normal, but still...
We’re likely to have extremely high “immunity” numbers in Stockholm due to schools remaining open, something that has this week been backed up with a published paper from the UK. Sadly I was hoping they’d give us a percentage figure on this today but they want more information from blood doners etc first so it’s probably two weeks away.
The Health Ministry believe we’ve flattened the curve in Stockholm, as long as we get through Easter.
But maybe compare Sweden to Belgium or Holland and ask about their backlash? Or many many many other locked down countries that are doing miles worse than Sweden.
The only “anger” here is how shit we are at protecting nursing homes, we have made an absolute mess of that.
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The NHS/carers deserve the attention BUT there's something so fecking Brasseye about seeing the UK population in pyjamas stood in quarantine in their front gardens clapping and smiling while refusing to grill the government about why they - and the care staff - are actually in this position in 2020. It's so close to being a bizarre black comedy parody it's unsettling, because a lot of people aren't even batting an eyelid at how bonkers this entire situation is.
"Ah, poor Boris. Let's go and clap in our nightwear for a horribly underpaid and exploited workforce before playing board games again tomorrow".
the schools absolutely should not be open. Keeping them closed has saved around 3% more lives and the report recommended schools should be open if kids don’t go outside for break times and also socially distance 2m apart.
I dunno man, I hate the Tories as much as the next man but I don't recall the media being against Blair leading us to look for non-existent weapons as America's lapdog.
They're the mouthpiece of WHOEVER is in charge, for me. Party doesnt matter. You're in the seat, you're in control.
This is assuming of course that you are taking many other countries numbers at face value, and don't factor in that other than Germany the other big European countries have as yet a higher percentage than the UK.
we are overtaking those countries and we had a head start and we are a fecking island.
Yet Sweden are doing miles better than loads of closed school countries so....
Norway and Austria opening schools too soon right? And Denmark?
Thanks, and I wasn't saying backlash in that there should be one, more that people are wanting to kick the UK's lockdown approach at every opportunity, when I'm not sure it's much different from anyone else's, and yet more extreme from the likes of Sweden.
The countries that have done the best closed their schools.
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Best news in months.
People just think they did it too late.
Maybe they are correct but I’m still of the opinion that the horse had long bolted in the UK after half term. Britain was likely riddled before even Italy went into lockdown on 9th March.
Best “so far” mate.
They have to open them soon and 3 of the best are planning that very soon.
An island with as much international travel as anyone, and we aren't overtaking them at all, we are on the same path.