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I love that Liverpool's only Premier League "title" will always come with the caveat that it was awarded as a propaganda tool by a corrupt government trying to distract from their mishandling of a public health crisis and the malicious running down of the NHS.

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The no tackling in training thing is a fair thing to criticise. It may as well not be played if the sport has to change at a fundamental level like that even in practice but you know, money and stuff.
If you can't train to tackle properly what happens when football comes along BCD and a player breaks another's leg with a badly mistimed challenge?

To be honest they are putting careers at risk here and it stinks. I'd imagine club lawyers and the PFA will be licking their lips. I don't expect to see this get off the ground. Bloody dangerous stuff going on at the moment.
 

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At least it's based on actual performance being simulated.

Let's face it, anything beyond this point is equally farcical, if we must choose either PPG is the fairest out of all options.
Well thats the big question isn't it. If the league can't be completed will the clubs vote for places to be decided by silly means like PPG or just go the Holland route and go off current standings. In the next month or two it might become clear that Euro places are meaningless anyway which will make it easier to decide.
 

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Silly question, anyone would take the title
Would the owners?

According to the google search I did, the winner of the PL gets £150m, that would be a huge chunk of money they'd miss out on. The fans would take the title all day long, but would the money men?
 

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Calling other idiots because of natural reaction to rules isn't that nice. They have right in matter of the wierd rules TheFA are trying to impose. What is difference in training and matches in terms of tackling? Why would it be ok in matches and not in training looking at social distancing?
What? I’m calling them idiots because they’re replying “what the feck how is a defender supposed to get the ball of the attacker” or “Jesus no tacking in matches now what a farce” when it clearly says training, not their “natural reaction to rules”.

To answer your latter point it’s because players would be tested before every match day. Big difference if you know everyone on the field you’re with doesn’t have the virus.

I agree it’s a little stupid I’m calling them idiots as it’s just farcical how many people start smashing their keyboards without actually reading things properly.
 

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Would the owners?

According to the google search I did, the winner of the PL gets £150m, that would be a huge chunk of money they'd miss out on. The fans would take the title all day long, but would the money men?
That money's made up of numerous things, but the bulk of it is from tv broadcasting rights. Last season Man City won the league & earned £151 million. However runners-up Liverpool made £152 million based on being on the box more than City
 

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Would the owners?

According to the google search I did, the winner of the PL gets £150m, that would be a huge chunk of money they'd miss out on. The fans would take the title all day long, but would the money men?
Oh misunderstood you.

Their owners might not, as evidenced by furlough, but youd think most would
 

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Probably the reports about the rate of new infected cases tripling.
That's ridiculous. The R rate has apparently gone up to 1, which is still manageable. New cases are below 1000 as well and active cases continue to drop. Although it is true that the rate of decline of new cases has slowed down in the last week. Let's see how things develop.

Nothing to panic about as of yet though.
 

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Calling other idiots because of natural reaction to rules isn't that nice. They have right in matter of the wierd rules TheFA are trying to impose. What is difference in training and matches in terms of tackling? Why would it be ok in matches and not in training looking at social distancing?
How can you ban tackles in training, but have them during the game? And where is the blanket ban on footballers spitting on the ground, You just need to swallow 'em
The no tackling in training thing is a fair thing to criticise. It may as well not be played if the sport has to change at a fundamental level like that even in practice but you know, money and stuff.
Surely it's due to training restarting before games restart, hence the testing will commence around the time games are meant to be starting, hence they'd then be able to be in close contact due to being clear of the virus.
 

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Surely it's due to training restarting before games restart, hence the testing will commence around the time games are meant to be starting, hence they'd then be able to be in close contact due to being clear of the virus.
So the assumption is, by the time the actual games commence, there wouldn't be any threat due to close contact and social distancing rules should have been withdrawn by the govt.
 

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Probably the reports about the rate of new infected cases tripling.
After just posting the lowest number of new infections since early March?

Depending on the source you use, the R value is currently at 0.94 (Robert Koch Institute) or 0.82 (Helmholtz Centre) or 0.42 (University of Ilmenau) which tells me we shouldn't probably be looking too closely at it on a daily basis if they differ that much.
 
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And players will be wearing special gear which will catch all the sweat from the body and deposit it into a pouch which is attached to their dress. Also players will have an attached spittoon on their pants into which they can split while playing.
 

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So the assumption is, by the time the actual games commence, there wouldn't be any threat due to close contact and social distancing rules should have been withdrawn by the govt.
No its the fact the players will all have been rigurously tested by the time they step onto the pitch. You can't catch the virus off of someone that hasn't got it.
 

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Tackling will be banned, pitches disinfected and players restricted to groups of five when the Premier League starts a first phase of team training.

It's a pointless rule but it's being overstated. Tackling will be banned for the first phase. The first phase after resumption was always going to be fitness heavy. Still going as far as a 'ban' is just over-prescribing
 

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No its the fact the players will all have been rigurously tested by the time they step onto the pitch. You can't catch the virus off of someone that hasn't got it.
Incredibly it appears there are people that seemingly cannot process this in their heads.
 

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Decided today that Austrian football starts up again end of this month.
 

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Incredibly it appears there are people that seemingly cannot process this in their heads.
What is not realized by most is for atleast a month players were playing with the virus growing in this country and the weekend before the suspension they played with full crowds in uncontrolled environments with the country's R around or above 3 and even then only Arteta and Hudson Odoi AFAIK tested positive both of whom wouldn't have even known without the test.

If/when the season resumes they will be infinity times safer than they were the previous time they kicked a ball in the PL and possibly safer than they've been while playing for months if theory's about this virus being around since November are accurate.
 

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No its the fact the players will all have been rigurously tested by the time they step onto the pitch. You can't catch the virus off of someone that hasn't got it.
So the assumption is that test results will return so quickly that none of the players will have contracted the virus since being tested? How fast are those tests?
 

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So the assumption is that test results will return so quickly that none of the players will have contracted the virus since being tested? How fast are those tests?
Think they are getting tested every 48 hours so at most there would be a 48 hour window in which they could pick up the virus. You'd expect they'll be isolated with just their team mates in the meantime though.
 

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What a joke the PL and the FA are, an actual bunch of cnuts.

Wish we were pushing for cancelling this season, and an early start to next season
 

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I am looking forward to football again. Unlike a lot of people in this thread is seems. Should be fun to watch even if it will not be fully the same.
 

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What? I’m calling them idiots because they’re replying “what the feck how is a defender supposed to get the ball of the attacker” or “Jesus no tacking in matches now what a farce” when it clearly says training, not their “natural reaction to rules”.

To answer your latter point it’s because players would be tested before every match day. Big difference if you know everyone on the field you’re with doesn’t have the virus.

I agree it’s a little stupid I’m calling them idiots as it’s just farcical how many people start smashing their keyboards without actually reading things properly.
Still, they have some point. It is said that it will be testing in training aswell. So they would be sure that no player have virus when group training starts. Right? This is only more of "look, we can fix it"-talk without any meaning.

Surely it's due to training restarting before games restart, hence the testing will commence around the time games are meant to be starting, hence they'd then be able to be in close contact due to being clear of the virus.
But aren't they tested before they start training in group? There would be 50000 octodecillion tests every second. It just don't make sense.

They are joking, right? First no tackels. Now tackels with turing face. What is next? Gasmask? NASA-clothes? Drive in-Football?

I have to give them credit for trying to do everything. How wierd it may sound.
 

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Surely looking away whilst you are getting tackled increases your chance of injury?
 

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Logic says that the CL won’t happen next season . Imagine the most prestigious football event happening with no fans? That’s not even thinking about travel restrictions, quarantines and the like
Totally agree. Playing for European places is a great big red herring imo.

Which creates fixture space through next season in theory. But they ought not get too ambitious. Yeah, right...

Fixture space could mean you have no need for relegation this time, for instance. You could therefore have some promotion playoffs and a Sky TV BCD Neutral Grounds Cup or something, then a break, then into a European-less next year.

OK, my terrible idea can be criticised in 100s of ways probably but at least it's based in being fair/generous to as many teams as possible, is based in reality and not pretending everything goes back to normal soon, we just need to ram as much Premier League labelled but meaningless footy back on to the TV screens ASAP for as much ££££ as possible.

If 'this season' returns and you're excited/interested, I think you must be either a bit strange/dim/obsessed or too young to know better or a bit of a bellend Liverpool supporter who cares about not much else.

I hate football meself, obviously.
 

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I am looking forward to football again. Unlike a lot of people in this thread is seems. Should be fun to watch even if it will not be fully the same.
Everyone would love to watch football again. But not some artificial project. And if it can't be done in right way then stop it. How hard is to take decision to stop the League, declare Liveprool winners, try to fix standings in all leagues under Premier League and move on by planing how next season will be played.

You are aware that it isn't only Permier League that have to be fixed but also EFL? You are aware that there is FA cup still going on? European games with all quarantine rules? How can it be finished before August/September? Problem with contracts? Sponsors? Lot of problems.