Again with the filibustering...
Protests following the killing of George Floyd
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If they need to prove "intent to kill" for 2nd degree, it's anything but "quite clearly" or "spot on". Again, not saying it wasn't his intent, but understanding that and proving it in court beyond reasonable doubt are two different things altogether.
I'm not that familiar with US law but it's better to go for the sure thing than to be turned away by court because they can't prove it beyond reasonable doubt.
Ahh, so now you want to call me a racist (without even knowing who I am or the color of my skin). How open minded of you. Reading your posts makes it abundantly clear that you are in need of some bullshit pedantic education
It was great fun for a while though.
Black man waving piece of paper = "thug"
Protestors/looters = "thugs"
Neo-nazi murders someone during protest = "very fine people"
Protestors/looters = "thugs"
Neo-nazi murders someone during protest = "very fine people"
Criminal=thug
Rioter=criminal
You're probably one of the racists I'm referring to then. Makes sense!
@Carolina Red i admire your patience here
what's your skin colour?
While it might be giving Donald too much credit to say he actually understands the concept of a ‘dog whistle’ or might think ahead of time instead of what to say instead of spouting whatever hits his brain cells first, he uses them often.
Just look at the way he refers to women, women of color, black-majority communities...his track record is consistent and does not leave much room to give him the benefit of the doubt.
The way people act oblivious to the historical and cultural connotations of words. there just are no words, funnily enough.
You assume a lot. How do you know that I’m not a marginalized minority?
I’m not trying to reframe anything. How often have you been to America? Your ivory tower is pretty far away from here
Having been on a jury for a murder trial in the US I can tell you from experience that the law may be easy to follow but some people still refuse to do so for stupid reasons.
Suppressed?
feck caring about unarmed nonresistant black men dying unjustly. We need to focus on why "thug" isn't a dog whistle because that's what super intelligent people now.
I couldn’t give a shit what your race is, you’re still on the wrong side of this issue.
I lived in the US for a while as a kid, have several family members and friends living there and have spent considerable time in various states over the course of my life. Not that any of that is in any way relevant to the point either.
Ok. You’re not smarter than I thought.
I’m a black man, born and raised in Florida and I think you’re acting like a thug. Why do I waste time with you guys? I won’t sit here and be called a racist by some piece of shit.The Caf has truly lost its way
What pisses me off is when people presumably intentionally direct conversations towards arbitrary directions. because they're fecking retarded [don't mean to be ableist] stupid. and racist of course, hand in hand kinda thing.
Not that it should matter, but I’m black. That doesn’t change my argument one bit
Uncle Ruckus, is that you?
Interesting take
Man i'm not incapable of understanding your reasoning, I'm just saying that the fact this is the way things are done is wrong. The system is wrong.
That a man will now be jailed for a maximum of 25 years, for a crime that warrants 40, just in the name of pragmatism is wrong. Under these circumstances, with the video and witness evidence available, they should be able to bring a charge of second degree murder with the jury able to impose third degree if they find reasonable doubt.
That’s my point exactly! We should be discussing why the bastard of a cop isn’t behind bars, not the use of a term tweeted by an ignorant President. Let’s focus
Just saying what's obvious to me: that a term can have different meaning/flavour in different contexts. I'm not living in the US, but I've come across it often enough in media & social media to get an idea of its connotations in the discourses of right wing populism.
I'd probably call rioters rioters, and looters looters. Not meant sarcastically.
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I agree with the sentiment and in an ideal world, ideals alone would work. But it doesn't, sometimes a matter of semantics changes the whole course. Especially in law.
Wow! Again, the stupidity of this thread and posters.
Well if they were white and rioting against stay at home orders I’m sure Trump would once again be calling them, “Very good people” who are angry at the situation...
Interesting post considering your first post in this thread...
Oh my.
Please don’t change my quote to fit your ignorant narrative. If you’re going to quote me, use my words. Moderators, is this acceptable?
Mommy mommy, is this acceptable?
You and I both know that I only brought that up to make the point that arguing about the term thug was severely misrepresented and the real topic should be about the cop and Mr. Floyd.
When the person is innocent until proven guilty, you have to go with what you can prove.
You argue like a 12 year old kid. I hate to put you on “ignore” because I really enjoy your football related posts, but I’m going to say goodbye.
Except that it's not and you went all high and mighty invoking Obama and your own skin color as if you're the spokesperson for all black people. How am I supposed to believe you?
it was. A few posters nearly lost their minds.This ain't an airport. No need to announce your departure.
Guys, I don’t wanna sound like a broken record. But it looks like George Floyd’s mental health is being weaponized to deny his family justice.
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