Oh man, I'm so so sorry for your loss. Sending you and your family all the best wishes in the world.
SARS CoV-2 coronavirus / Covid-19 (No tin foil hat silliness please)
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik and Imran hold a long overdue conversation about United's awful league form with 1 win in 7. They discuss a disappointing draw at Bournemouth, a not so disappointing draw against Liverpool and a crushing defeat at Chelsea - Is time nearly over for Erik Ten Hag?
Then in a special second half of the pod, Nik welcomes Natalie ( https://twitter.com/natalie_17) to discuss the fortunes of Manchester United Women as they booked a place in the FA Cup Final after a historic first ever win vs. Chelsea.
My girlfriend has an office job, and has been shielding for months, as she has some underlying health conditions that would make her particularly susceptible to the virus. This has been fine, as there have been no significant issues with WFH.
However, her company are starting to pressure her to come back to the office from August, as that is when the government shielding program is due to end. Is that right? She feels very uncomfortable about this given that she'll need to take the tube/ bus to work. I read on the government website that;
However, her company are starting to pressure her to come back to the office from August, as that is when the government shielding program is due to end. Is that right? She feels very uncomfortable about this given that she'll need to take the tube/ bus to work. I read on the government website that;
- Businesses and workplaces should make every reasonable effort to enable working from home as a first option.
I'm truly sorry to hear that. Best wishes to you and all your family.
It seems the video is genuine, as many other users and the media are reporting the news. You make a very good point doubting it though, as too many people tend to accept whatever is told to them on Internet uncritically these days.
I've seen people acting very stupidly in other countries too. I guess at the end of the day everyone will blame everyone, that's inevitable.
She needs to speak to her employer. This might help - https://www.acas.org.uk/coronavirus/vulnerable-people-and-high-risk
Isolated case, but it'll be interesting to see how this plays out over the next couple of weeks
https://www.burnham-on-sea.com/news...s-after-customer-tests-positive-for-covid-19/
https://www.burnham-on-sea.com/news...s-after-customer-tests-positive-for-covid-19/
Work should absolutely try and get her to continue working from home as much as possible
She could try contacting her occupational health department if there is one, speak to a union rep if possible prior to speaking to the line manager
Then there is also the Advisory, Conciliation and Arbitration Service (ACAS) where she can get advice from on 0300 123 1100 or by visiting - https://www.acas.org.uk/ or even the HSE if work are being complete dicks but hopefully it won't come to that - https://www.hse.gov.uk/contact/concerns.htm
As per government guidelines - https://www.gov.uk/government/publi...ng-extremely-vulnerable-persons-from-covid-19
This is going to be the biggest nightmare for the hospitality industry for the foreseeable future. One customer tests positive and all staff are quarantined for the next two weeks.
I'm very sorry for your loss, I can't imagine the pain you are feeling. My deepest sympathies to you and your family.
Lots of companies are going to make unreasonable requests like this, unfortunately, even when people have proven their ability to work successfully from home. My advice would be for her to join a relevant trade union for some support if needed.
I really appreciate every thoughtful comment, thank you all. Sorry if I derailed the thread, I just felt like I had to share this somewhere, because it's really weighing on my chest. Best wishes to everyone and all your loved ones.
No need to apologise at all. Condolences to you and your family and please do share or post if you need help or someone to talk to. Although this place is full of nutters we'll always try to look after each other.
Yeah, like they didn't report on any of these cases at the time.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-48182646
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-24461474
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-23843656
Very sorry to hear about your loss. Strength and all the best to you and your family!
So sorry to hear of your loss mate. All the best.
The government are the blithering idiots for relaxing restrictions, as the idiots on the street aren't only risking their own health but the lives of others.
I can't imagine a more on-topic post. Real people with loved ones are dieing of this. I hope your family get through this as best you can.
Really sorry to hear this, strength to your loved ones.
Very sorry to hear this mate. I genuinely wish strength to you, your dad and your family. Think about the good times and look after one another.
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Sincere condolences for your devastating loss. Wishing you and your family all the best.
Florida’s Dept of Education has ruled that schools must reopen next month.
https://www.wpbf.com/article/florida-department-of-education-schools-reopen-august/33222860
meanwhile... Florida is keeping pace in new cases with the continent of Europe.
https://www.wpbf.com/article/florida-department-of-education-schools-reopen-august/33222860
meanwhile... Florida is keeping pace in new cases with the continent of Europe.
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I know this is going to shock exactly nobody, but the Commissioner of Education, Richard Corcoran, absolutely loves him some Trump.
Will it be mandatory for kids and teachers to wear masks or face shield in class? Otherwise its just dumb.
When you look beyond just cases or deaths and also factor in tests per capita, deaths per capita etc is there any western nation in worse shape than the UK, when you factor in all those metrics?
Tests per capita UK is pretty much third best in the West, behind Denmark and Iceland.
Deaths per capita only Belgium is worse.
Hmmm yeah I m finding the same with deaths per capita though depending on what graph I'm looking at Belgium is now no. 2 with either Yemen or San Marino first for deaths per capita. For testing though I'm finding the UK lagging behind a bit though.. Hovering around no. 15-20 depending on what chart you pull up. Where did you find the tests per capita? Genuinely curious bc we seem to agree on the death rate.
Europe re opening its borders to many countries will be a very interesting excercise in how well its being contained with some of the new measures in place. Curious to see the stats in about 2-4 weeks.
I don't know about other countries but testing figures in the UK are close to meaningless as they have no idea how many people have been tested. Some are tested multiple times and tests that have been posted out and not returned are counted as tests done.
And tests per capital are behind the US, Australia, NZ and Ireland and about the same as places like Germany. But, and a huge but, the worse you are hit the higher your testing requirements. Which is why the US is such a disaster with only 13 tests per confirmed case. The UK is about the same as places like Poland and France but 5 times worse than Ireland, much worse than other European countries such as Italy and not in the same universe as Australia and New Zealand.
Anecdotally tracing also seems to be hugely inadequate in the UK.
Deaths per capital are one of the least important statistics TBH as they are a very blunt tool.
Coronavirus: Spanish study casts doubt on herd immunity feasibility
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-53315983
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-53315983
So sad to hear of your loss.
Excuse me while I rant a little.
As a scientist, this type of bullshit sensationalization of research by mainstream media is both insulting and dangerous. Either this writer is willfully misrepresenting the papers conclusions or took no time to read past the abstract.
I took the 10 minutes to skim through the paper and let’s see if the authors conclusions match that f-ing headline:
Here the authors point out that the majority of their study participants, even the symptomatic ones, likely did not have SARS-CoV-2. But what about people with positive SARS-CoV-2 PCR tests?
Yep, that’s right. Over 90% of pcr confirmed subjects showed antibodies 14 days out from their positive test. Longer term studies are underway to like at how long antibody levels remain as that will be a better indicator of potential herd immunity.
When organizations like CNN, BBC, FOX, etc. take an articles data completely out of context it can cause confusion and fear in the public. This is wrong and evil in my opinion when it is done knowingly, and dangerous when done through incompetence.
TLDR: you need to be infected to make antibodies. And most mass media science writers have agendas or are incompetent. Likely both.
I think you’re being a little harsh. The headline/main thrust of this article is about the 5% seroprevalence. Which shows that herd immunity is a long way off. I agree with your critique of the antibody persistence findings but they don’t really get into that in the article.
Melbourne going into a 6 week stay at home restriction, cases up 191 in a day, which is the highest reported number since the pandemic began.
More pubs confirmed this morning - https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-53315702
Back into lockdown for 6 weeks. Having watched from a far how the UK have dealt horrendously with the virus, Melbourne is now in a position that could turn out similar. I expect the UK to get a similar second wave given the scenes that have been happening around the country.
True, that was the thrust of the article, but look at the headline: “...Casts doubt of herd immunity feasibility”
It does no such thing. In fact it suggests the opposite, that 90%+ pcr positive subjects had antibody titers.
The study design, by its very nature, was always going to lead to a low seroprevalence number. I will be more concerned if that 90% number starts dropping precipitously as time passes and we begin to see large scale reinfection.
I do take your point about being a harsh, but the US is a bit of a science disinformation war zone right now and I am a getting fatigued.
Anything mentioned around the cause of the outbreak? Most media outlets are saying 'community' based, which doesn't help. Also, isn't it winter over there? Is that having some impact on an increase in cases?
The BLM matter protest probably didn't help, the streets were packed.
The PM has received criticism for the overseas travellers returning, most have spread through that, the security guards at the hotel were sleeping with some of the quarantine individuals. Some were allowed to go free before the 2 weeks.
Yeah it's winter but nothing has been mentioned about the weather having an impact.
I don't think they're meaningless at all - and since the recent changes to reporting, they do publish numbers for tests sent out and tests processed separately in their daily release here: https://www.gov.uk/guidance/coronavirus-covid-19-information-for-the-public
After a very slow start, I'd say the UK testing level is now around about where it needs to be.