Social Media Justice: A "Karen" faces consequences for threatening a Black man with cops
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik and Imran hold a long overdue conversation about United's awful league form with 1 win in 7. They discuss a disappointing draw at Bournemouth, a not so disappointing draw against Liverpool and a crushing defeat at Chelsea - Is time nearly over for Erik Ten Hag?
Then in a special second half of the pod, Nik welcomes Natalie ( https://twitter.com/natalie_17) to discuss the fortunes of Manchester United Women as they booked a place in the FA Cup Final after a historic first ever win vs. Chelsea.
You don’t have to be a zen master to stay inside the car, dial 911 or whatever the feck it is and wait for 10 min.
You don’t have to be a zen master to tell your wife to stay put, go out and have a word with two women, without drawing your weapon.
Failing all that, you can just, leave, you know? They were not blocked in. There are drunkard, methheads or just plain babbling racist assholes on the street, on public transport all the time. Leaving has always been a legit option if you don’t feel up to the confrontation. I have seen a train carriage full of people just stood up and left when an inebriated middle eastern guy was flailing and brandishing a pocket knife, which is 10 times more threatening than 2 loudmouth black women.
I don’t know what kind of world you live in, but for me from growing up in a working class slum in Vietnam, to wandering the alleys of Singapore seedier districts, to now in the suburb of Melbourne, I’ve seen zero need whatsoever to resort to the threat of violence when I was confronted with it, because it’s fecking stupid. Life is not a Hollywood blockbuster and you are not the hero.
Not jumping into this discussion, but if its not legal to brandish it, whats the point of open carry states?
When can you brandish a gun?
Why weren't those protestors that were against the covid lockdown arrested?
Sorry i totally confused by this.
Don't kid me, you pull the same stunt in Singapore you'd be jailed or faced criminal charges at the very least.
I don't know about Vietnam, but try do that to Vietnamese born Australian let's see how long you last without getting smashed. Let see whether they'll simply chill out and walk away.
I studied in Brisbane mate, people got bashed in for much less. I don't know which utopia you'd live in, that sort of shit against a pregnant wife and his husband will get you in stitches in many parts of the world.
But hey, keep calm, whisper koombayah and it'll all will go away.
You can't even maintain being civil over the internet without resorting to calling them a racist assshole yet you have the moral high ground to expect those white couple to restraint themselves.
I ran into Singaporean coppers multiple time in Kallang/Geylang, they had better things to do than jailing traffic aggro.
And I don’t know what sort of Vietnamese born Australians you were acquainted with, but the ones I know sure don’t want to get into any type of public altercation. The most common advice on social media community is deescalate, walk away, take a picture, report to the police, things mature people do, you know, not squaring up and risk a charge of assault/battery and a lengthy court process,
You show your lovely color here when any reaction of yours is firmly on the side of meeting aggression with aggression, ‘many parts of the world’ indeed, just not the savoury parts. Imagine appealing to the lowest common denominator as if it’s some sort of point.
You should probably stop rage typing and read the post you are replying to properly. Show me where did I call that couple racist.
macho ammosexual pieces of shit.
plain babbling racist assholes
inebriated middle eastern
2 loudmouth black women
lowest common denominator
/rage typing
So you have no point? Good.
No, it's not asking a human being to not have emotions but ask a human being to not act on them. If you can't do that then you are not fit to carry deadly weapons because your thinking process is corrupted, you are liable to act irrationally which is dangerous for everyone around you and yourself. And you should absolutely stand down when you are shouted at by strangers, using physical violence or deadly weapons is far worse than being shouted at.
How is it fair that they fail your very high "prudent" standard, while the other parties walks away with a simple "idiots gonna be idiots"
Because only one group brandished deadly weapons? It's a bit like asking me why someone currently driving a car should have less alcohol in his blood than a pedestrian.
To be fair the woman threatening to kick his white ass or whatever she was gobbing had two deadly weapons on the end of her arms and looked as if she was itching to use them. It doesn’t have to be a gun to be deadly, plenty of people have died from being punched and failing.
sorry to quote you again in here, just coincidence.
Which is why my previous post who was a general one and not limited to this case mentioned physical violence or deadly weapon. And we are not going to go into the analysis of imaginary events, both sides had the opportunity to punch each others but only one side brandished a deadly weapon, if we can't even agree on that fact then there is no point pursuing that conversation.
They only brandished that because they're being threatened, something you can't accept because you held them to ridiculously high standard of having a 2020 vision on the level of threat at that moment.
You're in no position to judge the level of threat they're feeling from the safety behind the internet. Anyone who's ever been in an altercation would know that when people rushing towards you you dont act rationally. Your survival instict and anxiety increases.
Put it this way. If the threat is real would their action be justified? Say if the mother had a concealed knife? Or bricks? Or an mma artist? Or just a psychotic woman who wants to hit you.
So what makes their action right or wrong is the level of threat. Now their perception of level of threat is the grey area. We should argue on that if you want.
You're too quick to judge them irresponsible without even acknowledging that at that time they dont know better.
When you're approached by an angry woman banging at your door it's natural and acceptable to feel threatened, it's a glass wall, it's america where everyone is presumably armed, she's pregnant, this woman already created a scenario where her daughers gets hit by a car, they think it'll get ugly and preempted by drawin their gun to deescalate.
You said only one side had deadly weapons. I simply refuted that
I'm going to address this part and leave the rest to yourself.
I can't judge the level of threat yet you can and you even go as far as have sympathy for people you don't know? And I have been in many altercations, I used to have a short fuse and I'm using my own experience, when you stop trying to be a tough for the sake of being tough it's fairly easy to be rational. I will also tell you something I'm pretty that you haven't been in many altercations because when you do, you realize how easy it is to really hurt someone or end up being hurt yourself, in a previous thread about fights, I'm pretty sure that I said to people to not fight, don't punch people and especially do not punch someone in the face because it hurts a lot, your hands won't like it and the fight is probably for a dumb reason.
But do what you want, try to act tough and pretend that you are all instincts and no brain.
What sort of aggro? I was taken aback by the level of homeless in San Francisco and the sheer volume of homeless people absolutely off their heads, wandering along or collapsed on the street.I used to see incidents like that all the time (without the guns).
My daughter spent last summer in the city (San Fran) and was amazed at the aggro she witnessed.
She's had a sheltered life, of sorts, so it's good practice for when she moves to downtown Chicago in late August. It'll have (hopefully) helped her cope better with the screaming idiots.
I said only one side brandished deadly weapons.
Because she didn’t stand there with her fist held up like a guard?
but I get what you mean yes, and agree that fighting very rarely solves anything
If you think that they did this to be macho then we're done. Obviously you seems to made up your mind.
Fyi i fear getting into altercations because there's no good coming out of it. I'll either get my head kicked or getting a vendetta, or a lawsuit. And all of my life I'd advice people to take your ego and avoid fight at a cost.
I don't think so, where do you see that?
Apologies, I meant she didn’t brandish her fists as they were not held in a guard as a question to you. I was being pedantic sorry
Im fecking laughing at your last point there because you just spent the last two pages saying it's ok to pull a gun on two women over a verbal altercation in a parking lot.
So that's it guys, avoid a fight and check your ego or have a gun pulled on you. Haha, all that bullshit and you end up here.
Just ‘regular’ people being assholes in public. You don’t see much in suburbia cos you drive a lot but when she’s was on foot she was nearer to the action, so to speak. It was people getting annoyed at all sorts of perceived slights, complaining about the service or the wrong change.
That, in addition to the ‘regular’ crazies on the streets of any big city.
Lots of homeless in San Fran alright.
She’s seen that before but this time she was without us and had to walk by them every day.
For context: she’s grown up in the “OC bubble” as people refer to it here; the nice, safe, clean area - compared to the gritty LA areas so it’s a bit of a shock for some people to see up close what I would call normal city life.
Does San Francisco has a large french community?
(searches in vain for a gallic shrug emojii).....Does San Francisco has a large french community?
nah, it must be the Italians and Russians....
A friend of mine was living there for years but decided to ship his whole family home on the third consecutive day he walked past a homeless person taking a shit on the sidewalk.
That seems extreme. Why couldn't he just move to Marin County or even a slightly nicer area?
We've got guy at work that seems to regularly see stuff like that in LA (his homeless stories always involves dudes without trousers).
I've been telling him that he must be on the look out for it. It can't be coincidence.
Ah right, I can imagine the OC bubble is pretty gilded compared to most places.
Things like the tube would be a culture shock to many outside of London here- a level of in your face and rudeness you don't get elsewhere in the country.
It's really not a biggie though. I'm sure everyone builds a tolerance up to randoms being arseholes in public quickly enough.
The people being so off their head in SanFran was different though- you have to be wary of their unpredictability.
On my first ever trip to London I saw an old woman have a piss on a busy pavement in Bayswater.
Jason “Motherf*cking” Wood
*Unsure if this is even Karen-esque tbh, he’s just a racist.
*Unsure if this is even Karen-esque tbh, he’s just a racist.
Karen’s have now evolved to getting themselves fired, Diana Ploss ladies & gentlemen.
https://www.inquisitr.com/6160273/dianna-ploss-video-fired/
https://www.inquisitr.com/6160273/dianna-ploss-video-fired/
Wats goin on hyar!?
Y do u cyar!?
Y do u cyar!?
Typical fragile ego response
"I can buy this bar"
I'm surprised he didn't talk about how many girls he's banged.
He's been made to resign from his employer.
Ah well I guess if it's his company he can do what the feck he wants. He won't last long in the marketing industry though, I'd give it less than a month before all his clients cut ties.
On Page 27 of this thread I only had 14 posts to read.
10 of which were replying to people I had on ignore.
So 4 posts of any value (to me, obviously).
I struggle to see how these are readable to people. I can’t be the only one that puts so many on ignore? (Though Entirely possible. I’m quite militant).
Ignoring this post is obviously the thing to do.
10 of which were replying to people I had on ignore.
So 4 posts of any value (to me, obviously).
I struggle to see how these are readable to people. I can’t be the only one that puts so many on ignore? (Though Entirely possible. I’m quite militant).
Ignoring this post is obviously the thing to do.
How will you take away ownership from him?
You can't but as VP89 said people will put pressure on the companies he works with and this will hurt his business.
I find myself battling between whether this calling out is good for society or not. It's certainly cathartic to see people get what they deserve but i wonder whether there's any context missed that explains away some actions. If they can ever be explained away.
If you're an employer you'd legally have to take into account capability and history before sacking but on twitter the mob descends.
On the balance of probability though they're most likely just scumbags so feck em
If you're an employer you'd legally have to take into account capability and history before sacking but on twitter the mob descends.
On the balance of probability though they're most likely just scumbags so feck em