Yeah, but that doesn't really count, does it... who cares about the CL and Ronaldo's goals that helped winning that trophy
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik and Imran hold a long overdue conversation about United's awful league form with 1 win in 7. They discuss a disappointing draw at Bournemouth, a not so disappointing draw against Liverpool and a crushing defeat at Chelsea - Is time nearly over for Erik Ten Hag?
Then in a special second half of the pod, Nik welcomes Natalie ( https://twitter.com/natalie_17) to discuss the fortunes of Manchester United Women as they booked a place in the FA Cup Final after a historic first ever win vs. Chelsea.
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Wait, what? We literally had to beat Barca to get to that final against Chelsea. I'm not sure how not playing against a team that doesn't exist yet (peak Barca) can be considered lucky. If anything, that team was immensely unlucky that part of their peak had overlapped with arguably the greatest club side of all-time (same goes for Ronaldo's Madrid).
His domestic trophy record in Spain isn’t solely dependent on him though. It’s a game of 11 vs 11 at the end of the day no matter how superhuman his or Messi’s performances may be on occasion, so he can only do so much. In reality, his record in la liga is nothing short of supernatural with more goals than games (the best ratio in the competition’s history) and being 2nd top scorer of all-time - only behind Lionel Messi meaning he would be the top scorer to ever play there if Messi didn’t exist. That for me is conquering.
Would you not say Henry conquered the premier league or that he failed at Arsenal? He is regarded by many as the best to play in England (for the duration of time he spent) yet only has 2 leagues in 8 years. His personal premier league statistics is also vastly inferior to Ronaldo’s la liga one.
The depths people will go to have a pop at Ronaldo where you even sh!t on one of our greatest sides 
and that too against a side that didn't even exist at the time.
and that too against a side that didn't even exist at the time.
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So he would be topscorer in every league minus his own and the bundesliga where Bayern are head and shoulders above everyone else. This is insane considering his age and supporting cast.
I would say other leagues are more open as well compared to serie A where teams park their entire 11 in their 3rd of the pitch.
I believe he will get another CL trophy with Juventus. Maybe not this year, but Juventus are seemingly well run and are desperate for that trophy.
His record for Juventus is great, the only negative is that this Juventus is the weakest in a few years. They’ll stumble their way to the title
His record for Juventus is great, the only negative is that this Juventus is the weakest in a few years. They’ll stumble their way to the title
There's an impressive amount of over 30s players there
Sarri is Italy's answer to Wenger or Roberto Martinez.
His teams try to play nice passing football but always bottle the big games.
Cristiano deserves a manager with a better pedigree for his final season or two there.
His teams try to play nice passing football but always bottle the big games.
Cristiano deserves a manager with a better pedigree for his final season or two there.
Well yeah it does, because if we switched our opponents in the final of 08 to the other 2 finals then we likely don’t win 08 and win the other 2.
Its funny that the so called best league in the world has Danny Ings as 3rd top scorer
Goals in all competition (clubs and country)
1. Lewandowski - 54 goals in 45 games
2. Ronaldo - 41 goals in 45 games
3. Immobile - 35 goals in 38 games
4. Werner - 35 goals in 46 games
5. Mbapoe - 30 goals in 33 games
6. Lukaku - 30 goals in 44 games
7. Messi - 29 goals in 40 games
1. Lewandowski - 54 goals in 45 games
2. Ronaldo - 41 goals in 45 games
3. Immobile - 35 goals in 38 games
4. Werner - 35 goals in 46 games
5. Mbapoe - 30 goals in 33 games
6. Lukaku - 30 goals in 44 games
7. Messi - 29 goals in 40 games
I don't understand, I think someone has told you already but Ronaldo did in fact play for Manchester United in 2009.
What's the point of commenting on seasons and games you clearly either didn't watch or have no recollection of?
Gerard Moreno is 3rd top scorer in Spain...Its funny that the so called best league in the world has Danny Ings as 3rd top scorer
Lewandowski has to be in contention for Ballon D'or this year. That's an insane amount of goals he's scored.
I’ve never seen a player at 35 still be able to put up such insane numbers.
I mean look at Messi whose numbers have dropped (29 goals is still amazing but in comparison to normality)
41 goals in 45 games and in a team that literally is one of the worst attacking sides out of the top clubs in Europe.
Best scorer of goals in the history of the game, what a player.
Crazy times!
That is fair enough but people don’t use that same metric when talking about his success with Madrid in the CL.
The narrative seems to be that Madrid won all them CL’s mainly because of him and not his team mates, but barely won any league titles but blame the rest of the team. You can’t give him all the praise for one and remove all blame for the other.
What are you on about?
What about Messi's metric without Xavi and Iniesta?
Wow some of you lot are fanatically crazy, I haven’t once even compared Ronaldo to Messi. Nothing I have said is trying to discredit Ronaldo and credit Messi.
Both of them are breathtakingly brilliant irrespective of their team mates, but both have flaws in their extraordinarily successful careers, even if these flaws are quite small. Neither is perfect.
He should have stayed at Real Madrid. Real and him were made for each other. Juventus doesn't do him justice with his goals output. I wonder what is he thinking now with Zidane back, winning them a Copa Del Rey and closing in on their La Liga, with the best defence in the league. He will be scoring for fun week in week out and would have no doubt increased his goals output significantly. I think he would have enjoyed playing in the current set-up of the team.
It isn’t hard to grasp. If United played peak Barcelona in our final win then we likely don’t win. If United played Chelsea in the 2011 final then we likely do win. I hope that hasn’t hurt your brain trying to understand it.
Bear in mind that a league campaign is a 38 game marathon so significantly more factors and nuances come into play than the CL which is at most a 13 game tournament. A player can have more impact on his team's chances on the latter than the former.
But yes, it wasn't all him for those European triumphs, he was just the most influential which is what I think most people mean.
Madrid were supposed to start a rebuilding project and he didn't want to wait, beside he wanted to reinforce his legacy by succeeding in another league with another top team. It was the right move. Unfortunately what Juve are doing with Ronaldo is what Barca are also doing with Messi, wasting the last good years of their career by playing them under terrible managers.
If we played that Chelsea side in 2011 we would have lost, that Chelsea side in 08 was way stronger than our 11 side.
But how is that relevant to anything? How is that even an interesting point? You can do this to any player who has won a cup, oh but if Messi played 09 united in the UCL final they played Arsenal they wouldn’t have won it. Such a ridiculous way to down play an achievement.
I’m glad you have realised that Ronaldo was at the club in 09 now though, sure it didn’t hurt your brain figuring that out.
Didn't he leave Real Madrid because of the tax saga and he felt he wasn't supported enough by the club as much as Messi with Barca. It didn't help that he had also the rape allegations going on at that time and the club didn't stand by him. I genuinely don't think he wanted to leave Real Madrid. That news came out of the blue, I remember it was during the World Cup season and he had some problems with Florentino Perez because Perez said that he wasn't indispensable anymore and he felt he wasn't being respected and loved. He was being a prima donna but being arguably Real Madrid's greatest ever player and the second best player in the world, he deserved the right.
He went to Juve because they really wanted him and he felt appreciated, respected and adored by them. Real could have done a lot to keep him and it's all down to Perez. Personally, I think it's a big shame he left Real. They were made for each other as I mentioned and Sarri's Juventus isn't doing him justice.
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18 goals in 2020, Lewandowski is second with 15.
He's only scored 20 goals in open play in all competitions this season. He's certainly become a mere mortal.
We've already got a decent pen taker.
No thanks
Isn't it 20 goals now in 2020?
9 of those goals were from penalties, that's actually ridiculous
.20 goals and 5 assists in 40 matches this season without penalties, yet they'll still be Ronaldo fans claiming that he should be winning the ballon d'or or that he has been close to the best in the world this season.
Would be crazy to say no even now. Younger players could learn a lot from him and his work ethic. And he’s still World Class
I have a bad news for you, you and him probably have different definition of his home.
Don't think there's a work ethic issue with our forwards. They are scoring similar numbers to him in open play and that's without us having to pay 40 million quid for each of them per season. As I said, no thanks.
Ronaldo has more goals from penalties in his career than Alexis Sanchez has league goals for Udinese, Barcelona, Arsenal and United combined.
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