Jamie Carragher: "Manchester United remind me of Liverpool over the past 30 years"

Jamie Carragher can get fecked. That's my thoughts.

When United win the league again in the near future we can all laugh at him. Until then, the onus is on the club to prove him wrong.

lazy comparison at high level but not a bad article. we are in form that could win a title in a normal season, and we are mega rich so have the ability to tie down our best players and add to it. if city or liverpool get 100pts next season though we aren't going to win the title

Until you actually win, you’re nothing but potential. We have a better squad in every respect than we have had in the last 7 years. We also have a better culture and better morale. I don’t know if we will win the league next season but I believe this team will at least put up a serious title challenge within 3 years.

I mean, if we’re still were we’re currently sitting in 25 years time, he definitely has a point.

Otherwise you might as well say we remind you of Liverpool two seasons ago. And I’ll take that trajectory!

Caution is always good. Nobody knows how this will go, we may win the league title next season or end up 6th. The potential is there though and Carragher knows it as well.

Liverpool under Klopp is a good example of how quickly you can turn it around with a great manager and a couple of world class signings.

In other words, i believe he is a bit worried that we could be this good or better next season as well and potentially put up a title challenge already, which he didn't expect so early i bet.

Before Ole, when we finished 2nd under Jose, I agree with him. Especially when so many fans were so fecking happy about it, as if it was some kind of achievement, completely ignoring that we played dire football after investing so much money on the squad. But Ole has come in and righted the ship, he's taught the players what it means to be a United player again, and its not about personal brands or social media posts.

We're winning the title next season, we are not Liverpool. Quote me on this. Do what you want. This is Manchester United!

not even thinking about a title yet, just happy im watching a team who are allowed to attack and believe they can now win matches without a smash and grab. And maybe start looking like a respectable champions league team again instead of the weak confused shell of what we used to be.

I don't hear anyone at the club saying we'll be challenging for the title next season. But I do remember Kompany talking about the quadruple being just a matter of time, and now van Dijk saying Liverpool will be better next season.

We of course need more quality in the first XI and the squad to seriously be challenging for the major trophies, but we're building something - finally emerging.

Didn't read his quotes, but it's strange to compare us to a club who failed to win the league for 3 decades. Yes, we spent loads of money on shite and illogical transfers for 6 years and the executive board is full of twats, but despite that it seems we're now turning a corner.

The same guy who said This Liverpool is better than the 1999 United, few weeks later: Got knocked out from FA Cup & CL.

Bitter c*nt, follow your own club. Oh wait, hes a Scouser so of course he is obsessed with us

I can garuntee we won't reach ten years without a title, let alone bloody 30.

Lazy comparison. This lot are obsessed with making us the next Liverpool. We’re far from winning a title, but there’s no data or say we won’t be in a year or two. This whole Liverpool fan argument of us going 30 years without winning a title and them dominating has little substance to it other than their 30 years of suffering and being a bunch of bitter clowns. Anyone that makes this argument is coming from a Liverpool centric point of view.

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https://www.telegraph.co.uk/footbal...ay/?WT.mc_id=tmgliveapp_iosshare_AvmZYxx0wb8m

A fantastic read. I agree with him. It's difficult not to get excited now when we have Bruno, a young attacking force with huge potential. I see there is already talk of us being in the title race next season but maybe it's too soon? Maybe we are just setting ourselves up for disappointment?

It takes more than a couple of signings to build a title winning squad, you have to have that winning culture, that belief, and the evidence that you can compete at the highest level, it's not an easy task at all.

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TrustInOle said:

Bitter c*nt, follow your own club. Oh wait, hes a Scouser so of course he is obsessed with us

I can garuntee we won't reach ten years without a title, let alone bloody 30.

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Winning the title in the next 3 years would be brilliant! Let’s hope Ole can do it! For now I’m just enjoying us for what we are, seeing players develop individually and collectively, the Jose stain getting scrubbed off, and really looking forward to united games again!

Dwazza Gunnar Solskjær said:

Jamie Carragher can get fecked. That's my thoughts.

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My thoughts agree with your thoughts.

Pexbo said:

Until you actually win, you’re nothing but potential. We have a better squad in every respect than we have had in the last 7 years. We also have a better culture and better morale. I don’t know if we will win the league next season but I believe this team will at least put up a serious title challenge within 3 years.

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Indeed. Personally I don't think we can win the league next season - City have a far greater squad than us - and Liverpool, better first 11. But with a few more signings we will be challenging again. Take Bruno out of the team and we're ordinary again - as we were before he signed. He's made such a difference to us. We need a couple more signings of that calibre.

bondsname said:

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/footbal...ay/?WT.mc_id=tmgliveapp_iosshare_AvmZYxx0wb8m

A fantastic read. I agree with him. It's difficult not to get excited now when we have Bruno, a young attacking force with huge potential. I see there is already talk of us being in the title race next season but maybe it's too soon? Maybe we are just setting ourselves up for disappointment?

It takes more than a couple of signings to build a title winning squad, you have to have that winning culture, that belief, and the evidence that you can compete at the highest level, it's not an easy task at all.

What are your thoughts?

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It's usually a by product of excellence. Liverpool have won two major trophies of late. They should probably calm down a tad before lecturing others on how to navigate trophy droughts. It's not easy winning big trophies but we're not that far away. We've got loads of talent and loads money.

Jed I. Knight said:

I mean, if we’re still were we’re currently sitting in 25 years time, he definitely has a point.

Otherwise you might as well say we remind you of Liverpool two seasons ago. And I’ll take that trajectory!

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Solid point.

Difference is Liverpool bought players a few years off their prime with several years at top flight experience, but that means their peak will be a lot shorter.

I think Klopp won't rebuild he'll leave for the national team, whilst Klopp is hailed a hero (of course he's one of the greatest coaches in the world, joint first with Guardiola) he has really bought players that are pretty much at the peak (minus Fabinho, Gomes).

I think the issue for Liverpool is, if they don't enter the transfer market this year they'll suffer the following window, replacing someone like Van Dijk (generational talent) and Mane, Salah, Firminho (they just work together) I don't see them replacing them when they leave, it's not hard to emulate that.

Robertson and TAA will suffer slightly without someone like VVD at the back (allowing them to go forward), so I'm somewhat reserved about what Carragher is saying.

When you buy top midfielders and top forwards, they are always expensive, 100-150M in the current market, Liverpool can't afford that (not currently), or the wages.

United have Greenwood (18), Rashford (22), Martial (24), and potentially Sancho (20), you'd take that over Mane, Salah, Firminho who are all 28 and let's not forget what MMM output in terms of goals this year.

Pogba, Bruno, AWB, Maguire, Shaw all have 5-6 years left in them of top flight, DDG has 8 years as a GK, the attackers for United have much, much longer.

Short term we'd love to have with Liverpool have, but long-term United have a much much better squad currently, and we have a manager who understands the squad too.

As much as I was reserved about Ole at the start, I'm beginning to think that he can grow tactically etc as the seasons go by, he has SAF to ask questions to if he has any, but the club is at a very good shape now.

Solskjaer is long-term coach (he's planning to be around at United longterm) whereas Klopp is planning to be a Liverpool no longer than 3-4 years more.

Dwazza Gunnar Solskjær said:

Jamie Carragher can get fecked. That's my thoughts.

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Yes

If we’re a version of Liverpool then it has to be Rogers team. Very good going forward but more solid in defence.

Dwazza Gunnar Solskjær said:

Jamie Carragher can get fecked. That's my thoughts.

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This.

Dwazza Gunnar Solskjær said:

Jamie Carragher can get fecked. That's my thoughts.

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Dwazza Gunnar Solskjær said:

Jamie Carragher can get fecked. That's my thoughts.

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Nothing more needs to be said

Shut up Jamie you gobbing thug.

Charlie Foley said:

Winning the title in the next 3 years would be brilliant! Let’s hope Ole can do it! For now I’m just enjoying us for what we are, seeing players develop individually and collectively, the Jose stain getting scrubbed off, and really looking forward to united games again!

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It will happen, mark my words. I can see us adding Sancho an another (Cm or Cb) this summer, pushing for a title challenge next year, with the following two seasons seeing us win the title with Greenwood winning the golden boot for the foreseeable future

Carragher can go feck himself. I just hope the club (meaning Woodward and the scouts/recruitment team) does not fail Ole and bring him the players he needs. He seems to have the right ideas for recruiting players.

It’s funny after their first title in 30 years they’re already worried about us after a week or two. Jamie’s PTSD must be kicking in from all the years of failure. They’re probably terrified it’s a one off...

Berbaclass said:

It’s funny after their first title in 30 years they’re already worried about us after a week or two. Jamie’s PTSD must be kicking in from all the years of failure. They’re probably terrified it’s a one off...

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Imposter syndrome is real.

They cobble together their first decent team in 3 decades and suddenly they're all experts on success

Giddy pricks should just concentrate on enjoying this as its got one more season before their stars all fcuk off abroad and their manager follows them

You lot are turning into scousers, my god. We only went on a decent run and there is talk about winning a title.

Things are looking alright, but most of you are over the top, c'mon.

Enjoy your title Jamie. Stop obsessing about United.

Imagine winning your first title in 30 years and still writing about opposition teams

youmeletsfly said:

You lot are turning into scousers, my god. We only went on a decent run and there is talk about winning a title.

Things are looking alright, but most of you are over the top, c'mon.

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If you think our confidence comes from one run of games, then sadly your mistaken, but Carry on.

bondsname said:

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/footbal...ay/?WT.mc_id=tmgliveapp_iosshare_AvmZYxx0wb8m

A fantastic read. I agree with him. It's difficult not to get excited now when we have Bruno, a young attacking force with huge potential. I see there is already talk of us being in the title race next season but maybe it's too soon? Maybe we are just setting ourselves up for disappointment?

It takes more than a couple of signings to build a title winning squad, you have to have that winning culture, that belief, and the evidence that you can compete at the highest level, it's not an easy task at all.

What are your thoughts?

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He may or may not be correct, but we should never forget that Carragher is a bit of a twat and his opinions are worth nothing more than any random poster on this forum.

Seriously, who spits at kids out of their car window? Nobody does that

Bilbo said:

He may or may not be correct, but we should never forget that Carragher is a bit of a twat and his opinions are worth nothing more than any random poster on this forum.

Seriously, who spits at kids out of their car window? Nobody does that

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Forgot all about that, scumbag! How did he keep his job on sky after that?

shamans said:

We're winning the title next season, we are not Liverpool. Quote me on this. Do what you want. This is Manchester United!

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This!

Jed I. Knight said:

I mean, if we’re still were we’re currently sitting in 25 years time, he definitely has a point.

Otherwise you might as well say we remind you of Liverpool two seasons ago. And I’ll take that trajectory!

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That's much more the comparison I'd make.
When Liverpool showed that they always had goals in them, and could at times utterly rip anyone apart, but were let down by some sh!t defence.

THAT is where we currently are.

Liverpool legend desperately trying to play down our chances and probably big up the bestest team ever, who have won exactly one league title, shocker! Granted, I’ve not read every post on redcafe, but I’ve seen exactly one thread, which was full of posters cautioning it, that asks the questioning if we can win the title next season. There must be something in the water over there. What does Carragher know about title winning teams anyway?