Will dippers throw the game vs Chelsea?

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Can’t believe how wank Chelsea have been this season, yet they’re still leading the pack for the final CL places.

Has anyone genuinely checked the PL maths? I’m sure they must’ve fecked up somewhere...
 

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If Steven Gerrard was playing, yes.

It's a different Liverpool side though, they don't care about United getting CL football or not.

They care about themselves and rightly so they are PL champions this year, they'll play to win.
 
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They will be happy enough with the draw, they won't want to get beat when they lift it. Chelsea will get enough I think, these fixtures have worked out okay for them. No way they would beat City and Liverpool if they needed to win. Lucky Chelsea will scrape through.
 

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Can’t believe how wank Chelsea have been this season, yet they’re still leading the pack for the final CL places.

Has anyone genuinely checked the PL maths? I’m sure they must’ve fecked up somewhere...
Can't believe they've scored more than us this season too.

Fortunately, it's easy now to forget how utterly dire we were the first 6 months of the season. It took us to early December to win our 5th league game of the season, our first clean sheet away was at Chelsea in February.
 

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Entire caf seems to be convinced about this one. You know the rest.
 

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No.

Their standards have dropped, so "throw the game" vs top & mid-high teams is their unintentional normalcy nowadays. Can only drew vs mid-table teams, and win vs the weak lower teams.

Everton 0-0 (drew)
Crystal 0-4
City 4-0 (lost)
Villa 0-2
Bright 1-3
Burnley 1-1 (drew)
Arsenal 2-1 (lost)
Chelsea ?-?

Consistency!

Expecting another lost to maintain trend.
 

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No. This is not a thing. The world doesn't revolve around us. This is insecure fan bollocks.

In any case, we don't need a Chelsea slip-up to finish top 4.
 

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Not intentionally IMO. But they might not bother to show their best, same as they have been doing since they clinched the title.

For what is worth, I don't believe that they threw their match in 2010 too. They actually played good, Aquilani even hit the bar and had other chances. Gerrard fecked up, but he had done it several times in his career (against Arsenal gifting a goal to Henry, and against France in the last minute gifting a penalty to Henry).
Agreed, i mean if they were going to throw a match to spite you wouldn't have it made much more sense in 95 when Kenny's Blackburn rocked up at Anfield? Not to mention they got that 1-1 vs Arsenal the following season which practically secured your 19th title to go above them.

I can see subconscious phoning it in in these type of situations but throwing games? No way, above all else it's illegal, Gerrard doesn't strike me as someone that would have the bollax to risk it.
 

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Anyone actually want Liverpool to lose both of their last games? I don’t want them to reach 99
 

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Yes, we will have to fight for fourth. Sucks, but it is what it is, we blew against Southampton.
 

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They’ll want a win before they get presented the trophy.
 

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Agreed, i mean if they were going to throw a match to spite you wouldn't have it made much more sense in 95 when Kenny's Blackburn rocked up at Anfield? Not to mention they got that 1-1 vs Arsenal the following season which practically secured your 19th title to go above them.

I can see subconscious phoning it in in these type of situations but throwing games? No way, above all else it's illegal, Gerrard doesn't strike me as someone that would have the bollax to risk it.
yeah, I don't think they do it deliberately, but if you guys wanted it more than them, played harder than them, then you guys would likely win it. Subconsciously, why risk injury going into a 50-50 tackles with Kante when you got nothing to play for?
 

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Chelseas need to win is clearly greater. This game reminds me of the last game of the 2006/07 season i attended. Was there for the title party but had to endure bloody West Ham surviving relegation by winning 1-0 and that rat Tevez scoring the winner.
 

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Isn't it a title presentation day? Don' think they want to look like idiots while getting the medals
 

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This is a RAWK level conspiracy. If Liverpool lose its because mentally they're already gone for the season, it'll have nothing to do with the implications of what it means for us getting CL. They're not all sat on RAWK slagging us off foaming at the mouth like their fans are.
 

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Of course they’ll lose. The one time in their whole miserable existence I want the dirty whiny bastards to win, they will of course lose.
 

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I get the sentiment, but this is exactly the type of stuff we laughed at them for two decades. They’ve just won the league, I doubt they really care what we do, including losing purposely to prevent us from getting top 4. We’re not that small time are we??
 

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Theyll know the eyes of every Liverpool fans will be on them, ready to celebrate.
I honestly cant think of any title presentation day that had the champions lose. Maybe there's obvious examples but I cant think of them
United against West Ham, 2007.
No. This is not a thing. The world doesn't revolve around us. This is insecure fan bollocks.

In any case, we don't need a Chelsea slip-up to finish top 4.
I hope no one actually believes that Klopp approaches games based on how likely they are to hurt Manchester United in a hypothetical future.
 

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Knowing us Chelsea will lose to Liverpool and we will draw or lose to West Ham.
 

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I don’t think so. They don’t exactly have a great relationship with Chelsea and won’t want to lose their home league record plus it’s the day they get the trophy.

I can see a 1-1
 

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If it was the other way around, would Utd throw a game to stop Liverpool getting in the top 4? Would they feck and I'd argue with anyone that says otherwise. The players and clubs don't have the same tribalism that fans have and they certainly don't throw games to disadvantage another team. What Utd do this season now is of no relevance to us and vice versa. We were of no relevance to you lot in the 90s and 00s because you were too busy winning stuff. Next season might be different but right now, Liverpool only care about Liverpool.

If we lose against Chelsea, it's not because we've thrown it, it's because we weren't good enough on the night.
Since the title was confirmed, the intensity that you normally associate with Liverpool hadnt been there. Numerous reasons for that but if I went onto a pitch for a game that meant nothing, knowing that the new season was only a few weeks away, my intensity wouldn't be there. I wouldn't want to play with high intensity and pick up a stupid injury on a nothing game potentially ruling me out for a chunk of the new season.

We've been playing high intensity football week in, week out for 2 straight seasons. I'm not surprised that the players are having off days when they don't need to win games.
 

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The times I hear this bullshit about teams throwing games just because rival club/fans is pure nonsence, espically in the premier league just doesn't happen. If Liverpool get beat it will because their playing badly now that the leagues over. They've been in 3rd gear since they won the league.

Obviously a fair amount of fans will probably like them to lose. The balls in our court anyway, win our last two games and its CL football again.
 

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If it was the other way around, would Utd throw a game to stop Liverpool getting in the top 4? Would they feck and I'd argue with anyone that says otherwise. The players and clubs don't have the same tribalism that fans have and they certainly don't throw games to disadvantage another team. What Utd do this season now is of no relevance to us and vice versa. We were of no relevance to you lot in the 90s and 00s because you were too busy winning stuff. Next season might be different but right now, Liverpool only care about Liverpool.

If we lose against Chelsea, it's not because we've thrown it, it's because we weren't good enough on the night.
Since the title was confirmed, the intensity that you normally associate with Liverpool hadnt been there. Numerous reasons for that but if I went onto a pitch for a game that meant nothing, knowing that the new season was only a few weeks away, my intensity wouldn't be there. I wouldn't want to play with high intensity and pick up a stupid injury on a nothing game potentially ruling me out for a chunk of the new season.

We've been playing high intensity football week in, week out for 2 straight seasons. I'm not surprised that the players are having off days when they don't need to win games.
Couldn't agree more Good post.
 

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They only did shit like that when Gerrard was playing. They are more professional now
 

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We seem to do well vs Liverpool and have a pretty decent head to head. Our players need to be motivated and fight for it though.
 

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I'd be very, very surprised if they do.

Their whole motivation will have been sapped by the fact they've done what they achieved and have little to play for now (which may affect their overall chances of wining) but this team (I'm sorry to say) is a group of winners and are managed by a winner, throwing games isn't in their make-up.

As has been pointed out above, would one of Fergie's teams have done the same? Nope.

The 2010 thing was pure Stevie G, times have changed since then (not least of all, them actually having won the league)
 

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I don't believe in professionals ever throwing a match unless it's been fixed, so no.
 

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We shouldnt be replying on other teams to do a job for us anyway. We have dropped too many points earlier on this season. Where we finish will be on us, not how Chelsea did against Liverpool.
 

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They won't throw it. They have a whole weeks rest and will want to win before collecting the trophy.

That being said, they look vulnerable and that can be hard to turn around once it creeps in.
 

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They'll most likely lose, whether you call it throwing or not is another matter. They won't be fired up, let's put it that way.
 

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They're getting them in an empty stadium with cardboard cutout fans and pre-recorded cheering. They'll look like idiots running around regardless
I genuinely feel sorry for them.
Also after seeing multiple United fans hoping for a gentleman agreement with Leicester to feck us over, this thread is actually quiet funny.

And no, Liverpool won't throw the match.
 

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If it was the other way around, would Utd throw a game to stop Liverpool getting in the top 4? Would they feck and I'd argue with anyone that says otherwise. The players and clubs don't have the same tribalism that fans have and they certainly don't throw games to disadvantage another team. What Utd do this season now is of no relevance to us and vice versa. We were of no relevance to you lot in the 90s and 00s because you were too busy winning stuff. Next season might be different but right now, Liverpool only care about Liverpool.

If we lose against Chelsea, it's not because we've thrown it, it's because we weren't good enough on the night.
Since the title was confirmed, the intensity that you normally associate with Liverpool hadnt been there. Numerous reasons for that but if I went onto a pitch for a game that meant nothing, knowing that the new season was only a few weeks away, my intensity wouldn't be there. I wouldn't want to play with high intensity and pick up a stupid injury on a nothing game potentially ruling me out for a chunk of the new season.

We've been playing high intensity football week in, week out for 2 straight seasons. I'm not surprised that the players are having off days when they don't need to win games.
I feel its more of a conscious effort aimed towards discrediting anything we might achieve in the game( a win or a draw).
Saw a lot of it during and after the City game, even though they were putting 4-5 past teams before we met continued to do so after.

I personally don’t see us winning but if we do it won't be because Liverpool threw the match.
 

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Most of them are in holiday mood. Can’t say they will take it seriously.