Think that was more likely just wishful thinking on my partUnited outside top 6? yes feck you!!!
Predict the Top 6 in order
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This thread makes great reflection for those who are still critical of Oles performance this season. Few had United in the top 4 and almost no one had them higher than 4th. Feck, even I didn't.
It was purely down to people hyping up their transfers like Pepe. Same thing will happen next season with Chelsea while conveniently forgetting that it’s very rare new signings all come in and transform a team together. It’s far easier for new players to slot into an existing team and system. Sancho would have a massive impact at Utd in a short space of time as he would slot into an obvious hole.
The wheels really fell off for Spurs and Arsenal.
Transitional periods for both clubs, and due to Covid neither of them are going to have any kind of decent war chest for their managers to fix the inherent problems in their squads. Funny thing is Covid was not around and Spurs still managed to not buy anyone in an xfer window At least now they have an excuse.
Transitional periods for both clubs, and due to Covid neither of them are going to have any kind of decent war chest for their managers to fix the inherent problems in their squads. Funny thing is Covid was not around and Spurs still managed to not buy anyone in an xfer window
At least now they have an excuse.It is unbelievable the amount of posters who had united outside the top 4 and some even the top 6. Hang your heads in shame and consider punishing yourselves like the monk in the Da Vinci Code.
Hats off. You need to follow it up with next season however.......so give us the top 6 then for 2020/21?
I'll keep it to myselfJust post it when that season is over, like you did this year!
So many people, irrespective of whether they were Ole in or Ole out, had us finishing outside Top 4.
And yet, we have the most stubborn of Ole out people saying that third was about par for this team... Laughable.
Give the man and this team credit, ffs.
And yet, we have the most stubborn of Ole out people saying that third was about par for this team... Laughable.
Give the man and this team credit, ffs.
It was always going to be out of City and Liverpool. That said, I didnt expect Spurs to drop off so much under Poch, especially given they got to the CL final last season, but I think Jose all in all, did quite well to get them up to 6th.
Lampard deserves a lot of credit. The transfer ban meant other teams had a head start and I think they did well to secure top four.
As for us, I always felt we had the squad to make top four and thankfully we did. Would have beem intetesting to see where we would have finished if we had Bruno from the start.
Arsenal have had a disatser of a season. Arteta has steadied the ship, to be fair to him, but still have a lot to do if they're to finish anywhere near the top four next season.
Will do!
Liverpool: They walked the league. They are the best team right now.
Man City: They scored tons of goals. I am surprised by the gap between 1st and second
Man Utd: We did pretty good to finish 3rd. We do have the team for it. If we had Bruno from the start I don't think it would've been tremendously different given the injuries we had. Instead of 66 we could've finished at mid 70's at best. I feel we would've still finished 3rd, but it would've been a lot more comfortable 3rd.
Chelsea: Lampard did a great job for Chelsea, to be able to secure the Top 4.
Leicester: Knowing they were in the top 3 almost entire season, they really blew it.
Spurs: Mourinho did well since the restart. I thought they'd end up at 7th or 8th, but did well to finish in Europa League qualification spot.
Arsenal: Have a lot of work to do.
Wolves: They are like Leicester 2.0, a good team. A few more addition and they could really be challenging for top 4.
No one's really overhyping us, even the most optimistic fan is saying third at best. City and Liverpool will still be far too good for the rest next season.
Also you need more than one player yourself to truly kick on.
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Can we get a threadmark for the new seasons predictions, or is another one coming up soon?
Close enough.
Damn!
Well summed up!
You put us 7th. How dare you?!
One before the season and one after the transfer window.... I got the top 2 right at least!
I think many have forgotten just how tough things were looking in August. My feeling at the time was that by not signing at least one CM in the summer we'd left ourselves an injury to Pogba or McTomminay away from being lost in midtable because they were the only two midfielders who looked anything like capable to doing a job for us. I've always tended towards optimism but:
Matic looked finished
Fred had been a disaster up to then
Andreas is just a bad footballer
Lingard had regressed horribly.
We had McTominay and Pogba who were good enough and nobody else. Literally nobody else. Then we lost both of them. Scotty for around 6 weeks. Pogba for most of the season.
Our league position through the Autumn and Winter reflected the fact that we had relegation standard midfield for a few months. That's not an exaggeration. Of course the narrative was Ole was out of his depth because he couldn't get this midfield to win every week.
Somehow over a few months Ole and the coaches managed to transform Fred from useless to one of the better performing midfielders in the league. Then they managed to develop a partnership between him and McTominay that made us competitive but still lacking creativity due to the reliance on Andreas to provide it. Adding Bruno finally got us into a state where we have a creative force in there and had a genuine chance. That was the end of January around 25 games into the season. By then it should have been way too late.
Somehow it wasn't. They put a run together. Then getting Matic looking much fitter during the break and getting Pogba back allowed us to get to another level and charge into 3rd.
It was a remarkable turnaround. Ed left Ole in an absolute mess in August with a barren wasteland for a midfield and he just gritted his teeth and got on with it and over the season made it work. For a team where Andreas Pereria played almost every league game until the end of January, 3rd place is a miracle.
Matic looked finished
Fred had been a disaster up to then
Andreas is just a bad footballer
Lingard had regressed horribly.
We had McTominay and Pogba who were good enough and nobody else. Literally nobody else. Then we lost both of them. Scotty for around 6 weeks. Pogba for most of the season.
Our league position through the Autumn and Winter reflected the fact that we had relegation standard midfield for a few months. That's not an exaggeration. Of course the narrative was Ole was out of his depth because he couldn't get this midfield to win every week.
Somehow over a few months Ole and the coaches managed to transform Fred from useless to one of the better performing midfielders in the league. Then they managed to develop a partnership between him and McTominay that made us competitive but still lacking creativity due to the reliance on Andreas to provide it. Adding Bruno finally got us into a state where we have a creative force in there and had a genuine chance. That was the end of January around 25 games into the season. By then it should have been way too late.
Somehow it wasn't. They put a run together. Then getting Matic looking much fitter during the break and getting Pogba back allowed us to get to another level and charge into 3rd.
It was a remarkable turnaround. Ed left Ole in an absolute mess in August with a barren wasteland for a midfield and he just gritted his teeth and got on with it and over the season made it work. For a team where Andreas Pereria played almost every league game until the end of January, 3rd place is a miracle.
We will see, I think Utd are comfortably further than Chelsea along the process, I do agree that both teams need more signings.
7th?? You’re shameless
That was absolutely atrocious.
This take was spot on.
Really overestimated Spurs and Arsenal :/
I could have out my house on us not making top four.7th?? You’re shameless
You should have so that we wouldn't have to read your takes anymore.
Let's just assume I was on drugs or hard liquor when I made that predictionThat was absolutely atrocious.
What was I thinking?!
If you ignore Arsenal, that's all the right teams... Sure that means I originally named 7 teams, and none of them are in the right place, but who's counting?
If we get our summer signings I'll be quite predictable and say!
City
Liverpool
United
Chelsea
Arsenal
Tottenham
City
Liverpool
United
Chelsea
Arsenal
Tottenham
This thread reminds me of Morecambe and Wise with Andre Previn - "I'm playing all the right notes - but not necessarily in the right order."
I think even for next season I see us finishing 3rd unless if we improve massively over the summer.
Regardless though i see us reducing the gap quite a lot. To be realistic, if we end up with 75-80 points, i'd be very happy.
I think top 4 would be a lot closer next season than it was this year.
5-8 any case are close competition most seasons.
1 Liverpool/City
2 City/Liverpool/Manchester United (got a chance if we improve or have no injuries)
3 Manchester United/Chelsea
4. Chelsea/Manchester United
5. Spurs
6. Arsenal/Wolves/Leicester
7. Arsenal/Wolves/Leicester
8. Arsenal/Wolves/Leicester
Regardless though i see us reducing the gap quite a lot. To be realistic, if we end up with 75-80 points, i'd be very happy.
I think top 4 would be a lot closer next season than it was this year.
5-8 any case are close competition most seasons.
1 Liverpool/City
2 City/Liverpool/Manchester United (got a chance if we improve or have no injuries)
3 Manchester United/Chelsea
4. Chelsea/Manchester United
5. Spurs
6. Arsenal/Wolves/Leicester
7. Arsenal/Wolves/Leicester
8. Arsenal/Wolves/Leicester
That was pure comic genius! Loved Morcambe and WiseNeed to have a little more faith my friend
Do you mean the January transfer window? If so that is horrendous.