SARS CoV-2 coronavirus / Covid-19 (No tin foil hat silliness please)

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You can still go to the pub, meet outdoors and go to work but can't go to ya mates house :lol:
 

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That should be the case. Doubt it will though. WoRk iS EvEryThiNg.
Well I’ve not been in the office since March so I’m not worried personally but it’s a little short on detail for people who work in retail or service etc. If you can’t be indoors with anyone not from your household then people can’t go and work in a shop or cafe or whatever.
 

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UK 38 deaths and 846 cases

Less deaths so far than last week but cases creeping up. Hopefully we don't follow many countries that have seen a large rise in cases recently. France seen1300+ cases
 

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Was I the only person who missed the news that it was okay in the first place? My dad came over to drop something off the other week and waltzed in. I told him he wasn't allowed and shooed him back outside like next door's cat!
 

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Well I’ve not been in the office since March so I’m not worried personally but it’s a little short on detail for people who work in retail or service etc. If you can’t be indoors with anyone not from your household then people can’t go and work in a shop or cafe or whatever.
Think the "meeting" part of the statement was deliberate. So I couldn't arrange with my mate to go the pub, but I could be in there (and distance) with a bunch of people I dont know.
 

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Was I the only person who missed the news that it was okay in the first place? My dad came over to drop something off the other week and waltzed in. I told him he wasn't allowed and shooed him back outside like next door's cat!
Thats been allowed for a little while now.
 

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Think the "meeting" part of the statement was deliberate. So I couldn't arrange with my mate to go the pub, but I could be in there (and distance) with a bunch of people I dont know.
Possibly but it’s (not unsurprisingly) not very clear.

This government is useless.
 

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Outside of Leicester city centre, rest of Leicestershire apparently out of lockdown. Man needs a fresh trim. I've never gone two Eids without getting a haircut before
 

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You can still go to the pub, meet outdoors and go to work but can't go to ya mates house :lol:
Thing is, pubs are quite good with the social distancing aspect, they have staff to help with it

Work is the same.

Outdoors isn't a massive issue because of how it transmits?

Going to your mates tiny front room with 8 others is just stupid anyway
 

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Thing is, pubs are quite good with the social distancing aspect, they have staff to help with it

Work is the same.

Outdoors isn't a massive issue because of how it transmits?

Going to your mates tiny front room with 8 others is just stupid anyway
Tell me that at pubs in the north tomorrow around 7pm when its 30 degrees outside!
 

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Was I the only person who missed the news that it was okay in the first place? My dad came over to drop something off the other week and waltzed in. I told him he wasn't allowed and shooed him back outside like next door's cat!
You shouldn't let next door's cat in at the moment, alas, stroking you neighbour's cat is like stroking your neighbour.
 

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Well I’ve not been in the office since March so I’m not worried personally but it’s a little short on detail for people who work in retail or service etc. If you can’t be indoors with anyone not from your household then people can’t go and work in a shop or cafe or whatever.
Work places have stuff in place for their staff, visors, gloves, distancing measures, shutting aisles off during restock. Now with the mandatory (haha, not really, nobody to enforce, however it is working as most are wearing them). So going to work should be ok anyway. Businesses are policing it anyway as an outbreak is massively bad for their reputation.
 

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Anybody have experience getting a home test delivered? I've been feeling incredibly tired over the past 4 days and went to order one only to have it decline me after entering my details :houllier:
Call 111, it's quicker.
 

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Work places have stuff in place for their staff, visors, gloves, distancing measures, shutting aisles off during restock. Now with the mandatory (haha, not really, nobody to enforce, however it is working as most are wearing them). So going to work should be ok anyway. Businesses are policing it anyway as an outbreak is massively bad for their reputation.
Basically everything is still open but you cant plan to meet anyone in the social situations unless they are outside, but if they happen to be in the same place as you at the same time then that's ok
 

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Looks like Italy is determined to rejoin the party. Highest daily case count for 2 months today. I don't know for certain why but the only rule that has changed in recent weeks is that masks are no longer compulsory everywhere you go.
 

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Basically everything is still open but you cant plan to meet anyone in the social situations unless they are outside, but if they happen to be in the same place as you at the same time then that's ok
Pretty much, if people want to catch it they're going to catch it, atleast it takes them out of the equation as spreaders after that for at least 2-3 months.
 

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Looks like Italy is determined to rejoin the party. Highest daily case count for 2 months today. I don't know for certain why but the only rule that has changed in recent weeks is that masks are no longer compulsory everywhere you go.
Italy getting jealous of other countries taking the lead. I get it.
 

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Basically, mostly areas populated by South Asians. Stop people celebrating Eid together with the intention of reducing the risk of further spread.
So you can meet anyone you like inside a Gym, pub, restaurant or McDonalds (and get a discount) but you can’t visit your relatives? Is that it?
 
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So you can meet anyone you like inside a Gym, pub, restaurant or McDonalds (And get a discount) but you can’t visit your relatives? Is that it?
You can by accident but not intentionally, that is the key.
 

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So you can meet anyone you like inside a Gym, pub, restaurant or McDonalds (And get a discount) but you can’t visit your relatives? Is that it?
You can't "intentionally" meet people from outside your household in the pub/gym/restaurant etc. either
 

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Anybody have experience getting a home test delivered? I've been feeling incredibly tired over the past 4 days and went to order one only to have it decline me after entering my details :houllier:
Ive had home test delivered just prior to leicester lockdown and it came quickly (within 24 hours)
I have a 18 month old toddler and the idea of properly doing a throat and nasal swab in the passenger seat for a poorly child didn't seem reasonable considering the false negative risks for both me and my wife who are healthcare workers. Luckily negative for all of us, the instructions are easy to figure out. Box is a bit fiddly to put together once testing is done but courier came to pick up the next day after we registered the kits online. Hearing though that due to increased demand things are being a bit slower.

If you can get it done at a testing site drive through saves a bit of hassle.
Hope you get better soon.
 

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It is a bit of a joke that these things have been announced through people pestering their MPs on social media and drip by drip information put out on twitter with no consideration on the impact these things have on people's livelihoods. And the vagueness and questions these announcement prompt along with the stress doesn't help.
 
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It is a bit of a joke that these things have been announced through people pestering their MPs on social media and drip by drip information put out on twitter with no consideration on the impact these things have on people's livelihoods. And the vagueness and questions these announcement prompt along with the stress doesn't help.
The UK response just seems like an utter mish mash clusterfeck, with no clear idea or strategy since day one.
 

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I've not been following this thread, admittedly, but doesn't anyone find the 'official' figures per Worldometer a little fishy?

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

Are we to believe that the Iranian health service is so much better than the NHS? A similar number of cases, yet, mercifully, only a little over a 1/3 the number of deaths?

8.5 times the number of cases in Brazil, a country that, apparently, doesn't give a feck about Coronavirus, yet only twice the number of deaths?

Even in Europe, it was well documented that Germany was doing better than most, but they still have 2/3rds the number of cases in the UK, but, again, mercifully, only 20% of the number of deaths.

France's figures do seem to be more in proportion, although their lock down was particularly severe and there were less cases overall.

Someone isn't telling the whole truth here, because I simply do not believe these 'official' figures.
The figures for cases vary too much to use them other than showing a broad view at the given time. Each country not only counts differently, and change but had different phases of increasing testing and capacity throughout the outbreaks. Blood tests show about 5% of Spain had it for example, so we're talking 2-3 million but a few hundred thousand were found positive.

Deaths rates just as varied.

Excess deaths is a better statistic and shows UK had 65k deaths for 67 million population and Spain had 45k excess deaths for 47 million population. These two countries did the worst job and Spain have messed up again as cases have risen drastically.

There's so many variables with, health of the population, how many are traveling in and out of the country, timing of the lockdowns and other measures, care home situations, testing, strictness of lockdowns, geography, population density and business links, you can't really just look at cases and deaths like that. New York and New Jersey were connected to Europe's hard hit regions through traveling and business and got hit roughly the same time while the rest of the US was largely unscathed at the time. New York and NJ states have ~1600 deaths per million, UK and Spain have ~960 deaths per million.

The biggest difference I can see with all the hard hit countries like UK, Spain, Belgium, Netherlands, France, Italy in comparison to Germany which actually had a soft lockdown, played with full stadiums as long as UK did, is they hugely ramped up the testing earlier than others and did some degree of tracing. The Government there had the public's back and went out and found more cases earlier on, those people then take it seriously and self isolate and this stops/slows the exponential spread and reaching more vulnerable people.
 

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Stinks of a short term measure to stop Eid celebrations, i'm afraid just without saying it directly.