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Poor people who die younger paying for the care of the wealthy who live longer via general taxation in my view is awful policy.
The reason behind your example being an awful policy is because one group are poor and one group are wealthy. So yes, I agree, it is ridiculous to base taxation on age alone.
 

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Holy shit Batman!

Edit: Just got round to watching the content and it's even worse. A huge spending spree and no mention of debt or financing it, as if that would ever happen with Labour involved.

You can tell the difference around a lot of this with Brown's QE at the time. You can argue they're led by opposition and the Tories challenge spending whilst Labour welcome it but that's not journalism is it? Especially if you're the economics editor of the BBC.
 
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Holy shit Batman!

Edit: Just got round to watching the content and it's even worse. A huge spending spree and no mention of debt or financing it, as if that would ever happen with Labour involved.

You can tell the difference around a lot of this with Brown's QE at the time. You can argue they're led by opposition and the Tories challenge spending whilst Labour welcome it but that's not journalism is it? Especially if you're the economics editor of the BBC.
It's fine, they have a plan for saving money too. Pay freeze for the public sector, benefits cut for everyone else, and an army of mouthpieces on TV telling the public that anyone who complains about those things is a bastard.
 

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Compare/contrast

I think a post alluding to Corbyn has just occurred without the Jezbollah spammer appearing. Warms this cynical old heart.
It's fine, they have a plan for saving money too. Pay freeze for the public sector, benefits cut for everyone else, and an army of mouthpieces on TV telling the public that anyone who complains about those things is a bastard.
Not necessarily pay freezes. Instructions to increase pay with no correlated increases to budgets resulting in further cuts is more likely. That seems to be the current tactic.
 

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Remember when Peter Oborne claimed BBC Execs thought that it was important they not point out Boris’ lies as it would undermine trust in British politics?


 

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I think a post alluding to Corbyn has just occurred without the Jezbollah spammer appearing. Warms this cynical old heart.

Not necessarily pay freezes. Instructions to increase pay with no correlated increases to budgets resulting in further cuts is more likely. That seems to be the current tactic.
You're actually right and that rings true at my work too, which would have resulted in job losses before this pandemic. We've had three "restructures" in about six years and this'll be the fifth that we've had since I started working there 11 years ago. It's rough, like. Can't imagine what's going to happen this time around since our projected income for the next year is way down. At least my team is safe but everyone else is pretty much fecked.
 

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New homes to get 'automatic' permission in England planning shake-up

As an Archaeologist this is worrying. They've shown their hand in the past few weeks about what they think about archaeologists, ecologists and other people in similar fields of work.
 

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New homes to get 'automatic' permission in England planning shake-up

As an Archaeologist this is worrying. They've shown their hand in the past few weeks about what they think about archaeologists, ecologists and other people in similar fields of work.
Crooked bastards lining their friends pockets as per normal.
 

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New homes to get 'automatic' permission in England planning shake-up

As an Archaeologist this is worrying. They've shown their hand in the past few weeks about what they think about archaeologists, ecologists and other people in similar fields of work.
The same minster who was recently involved in controversy over conflict of interest with housing developers. Hmmmmm. What a surprise.
 

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The same minster who was recently involved in controversy over conflict of interest with housing developers. Hmmmmm. What a surprise.
That's all in the past now and the minister that minister was punished with a quick move away from the spotlight until things blew over, so it's fine...
 
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-53625960

New homes to get 'automatic' permission in England planning shake-up

As an Archaeologist this is worrying. They've shown their hand in the past few weeks about what they think about archaeologists, ecologists and other people in similar fields of work.
Yet we need more houses, more houses will increase the standard of living for many people.

Planning needs a shake up, this might not be the right way to do it, but something needs to change.

I imagine conservation areas, article 4 areas and sites of archeological significance will still need more stringent applications.

Clearly we need to wait for the detail, but this is good news in my opinion.
 

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Yet we need more houses, more houses will increase the standard of living for many people.

Planning needs a shake up, this might not be the right way to do it, but something needs to change.

I imagine conservation areas, article 4 areas and sites of archeological significance will still need more stringent applications.

Clearly we need to wait for the detail, but this is good news in my opinion.
There are 1 million houses since 2010 that have been given planning permission and haven't been built yet. Of course it is about helping their rich mates.

There will still be some archaeology but they can bypass full desk assessments, open site plans and limit it to small scale evaluations which can cut the archaeological industry by a lot.
 
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There are 1 million houses since 2010 that have been given planning permission and haven't been built yet. Of course it is about helping their rich mates.

There will still be some archaeology but they can bypass full desk assessments, open site plans and limit it to small scale evaluations which can cut the archaeological industry by a lot.
Such a pointless quote (not from you, but the opposition to this). There are other reasons why these homes haven’t been built, but still given the outdated planning rules, smaller developments struggle to get built, and there needs to be some focus on these small developments that can never get off the ground as planning takes too long and is too risky.

This will help the small and micro businesses, and sole traders, which generally speaking make up a massive % of the working population.

I’m not interested in helping Bovis or big developers build 50+ houses. We need to help get rid of the red tape for the small developments which will employ local people.
 

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That's all in the past now and the minister that minister was punished with a quick move away from the spotlight until things blew over, so it's fine...
True, can we please just look to the future with optimism, waving our flags and forgetting the past. These decisions are in no way linked to any donations or business connections to ministers.
 

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True, can we please just look to the future with optimism, waving our flags and forgetting the past. These decisions are in no way linked to any donations or business connections to ministers.
Exactly. Get on Board with Brexit. feck, did we just give Boris his next shit slogan?!
 

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Such a pointless quote (not from you, but the opposition to this). There are other reasons why these homes haven’t been built, but still given the outdated planning rules, smaller developments struggle to get built, and there needs to be some focus on these small developments that can never get off the ground as planning takes too long and is too risky.

This will help the small and micro businesses, and sole traders, which generally speaking make up a massive % of the working population.

I’m not interested in helping Bovis or big developers build 50+ houses. We need to help get rid of the red tape for the small developments which will employ local people.
What's some of the reasons why the houses haven't been built? Genuine question as I have no clue.
 
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What's some of the reasons why the houses haven't been built? Genuine question as I have no clue.
Lack of money from developers/ owners of the land, better opportunities developers are working through first, the plans approved are too expensive/ or not workable to build, speculation growth (where actually its more valuable to keep the land as it because it’s increasing in value), CIL, requirement for social housing makes the development non profitable.

Lapsed planning permission is another one, usually the planning is valid for 3 years, so the majority of of those approvals will have expired (assuming those approvals were equally split across the past 10 years). A site with previous planning means it’s more likely to be approved again, but still have to go through the process.
 

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Lack of money from developers/ owners of the land, better opportunities developers are working through first, the plans approved are too expensive/ or not workable to build, speculation growth (where actually its more valuable to keep the land as it because it’s increasing in value), CIL, requirement for social housing makes the development non profitable.

Lapsed planning permission is another one, usually the planning is valid for 3 years, so the majority of of those approvals will have expired (assuming those approvals were equally split across the past 10 years). A site with previous planning means it’s more likely to be approved again, but still have to go through the process.
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