Jadon Sancho| Staying at Dortmund for now

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Other teams could come in for him after this summer, especially if he keeps up his form. Also, the quality in our team is front-loaded to just a few players, we need to get in more quality players as soon as possible.

I think we'll leave it late this window if we have to, but it will be done this window (or at least Ole will push hard for that)
No one is coming in for Sancho after this summer. We’ve already put the hard yards in and unless we tell him we’re no longer interested, he’s ours. That situation would only happen if he found himself to be a free agent and that won’t happen. We’ll get him for a fee well before then.
 

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Victor Osimhen literally just cost an Italian club 80m+ euros in a covid market and some of you honestly think Dortmund will feel obliged to acccept the same sort of fee? I'm not the one who needs to get real here :lol:

Sancho is most likely going to cost at least 100m if he's going to leave this summer guaranteed
We’ll pay £100m in the end, but it will be half now and the next half over 5 years. There’s no way we’re paying that money up front or without knowing the full implications of COVID on our finances yet.
 

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I dont see what your point is @TheNewEra but if you think Pogba and Maguire are value for money then I can't help you. Bruno , Martial and Wan Bissaka, yes thats good value for money. Not sure about Pogba and Maguire. Buying Maguire for 80 million is like paying John Stones for 50 million. Baffling transfers.
 
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I think this could be done by this time next week, plenty of time to do more transfer business then too.
 

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I dont see what your point is @TheNewEra but if you think Pogba and Maguire are value for money then I can't help you. Bruno , Martial and Wan Bissaka, yes thats good value for money. Not sure about Pogba and Maguire. Buying Maguire for 80 million is like paying John Stones for 50 million. Baffling transfers.
Hindsight is wonderful with Stones. He was young and had a lot of promise. Everton are a rich club and didn't have any need to sell. 50 was steep but made sense at the time.
 

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I dont see what your point is @TheNewEra but if you think Pogba and Maguire are value for money then I can't help you. Bruno , Martial and Wan Bissaka, yes thats good value for money. Not sure about Pogba and Maguire. Buying Maguire for 80 million is like paying John Stones for 50 million. Baffling transfers.
I think it’s mostly you who can't be helped. Pogba has probably paid off his transfer fee in the first year purely from merch and other commercial benefits coming along with the #PogBack hysteria.

And Bruno's arrival probably won us the CL place, which can be estimated by someone who has the time and willingness to do it but I am certain his financial impact since coming has already surpassed the amount we've spent (including future payments and addons).

Maguire as captain, England international and main reason we are 3rd best team in the league for defense and with the most clean sheets in Europe, has also definitely been worth it. But hey, rage on, my dude!
 

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I hope we get him. Like my father would say sometimes: "He is a good player".

So young, so much end product. Seems like no one else can buy him this summer. This is our chance to get him.
 

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I think it’s mostly you who can't be helped. Pogba has probably paid off his transfer fee in the first year purely from merch and other commercial benefits coming along with the #PogBack hysteria.

And Bruno's arrival probably won us the CL place, which can be estimated by someone who has the time and willingness to do it but I am certain his financial impact since coming has already surpassed the amount we've spent (including future payments and addons).

Maguire as captain, England international and main reason we are 3rd best team in the league for defense and with the most clean sheets in Europe, has also definitely been worth it. But hey, rage on, my dude!
You are deluded mate if Pogback is all you can say about Pogba. We haven't won the premier league in a while and you are celebrating Pogback. As for Maguire, the only reason he doesn't get criticized like they criticize David De Gea is because he is English. I don't rate him simple as. He reminds me of John Stones and Joe Hart. Too much hype for nothing.
 

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So, i've not been following this saga at all. Can anyone please sumarize: it's SanchON?
 

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You are deluded mate if Pogback is all you can say about Pogba. We haven't won the premier league in a while and you are celebrating Pogback. As for Maguire, the only reason he doesn't get criticized like they criticize David De Gea is because he is English. I don't rate him simple as. He reminds me of John Stones and Joe Hart. Too much hype for nothing.
Agree mate. I don't understand the hype either.
 

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Hindsight is wonderful with Stones. He was young and had a lot of promise. Everton are a rich club and didn't have any need to sell. 50 was steep but made sense at the time.
To be fair a lot of signs were there with Stones, I thought the last season of his Everton career saw him making some crazy errors
 

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Don't listen to Likes of Odgen please he seems to be completely out of touch ever since he has Joined Espn .
Yet he was spot on about what our net spend would be last summer despite taking ire and criticism from many of our supporters.
 

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You are deluded mate if Pogback is all you can say about Pogba. We haven't won the premier league in a while and you are celebrating Pogback. As for Maguire, the only reason he doesn't get criticized like they criticize David De Gea is because he is English. I don't rate him simple as. He reminds me of John Stones and Joe Hart. Too much hype for nothing.
I think you don't get how financial cost is actually evaluated in the real world. Nobody cares if you rate any player or not. All that matters is whether they generate more money than they cost (both to buy and to keep at the club). And I used #PogBack to illustrate how Paul Pogba has paid off the amount spent on him almost immediately after the transfer.
 

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I think you don't get how financial cost is actually evaluated in the real world. Nobody cares if you rate any player or not. All that matters is whether they generate more money than they cost (both to buy and to keep at the club). And I used #PogBack to illustrate how Paul Pogba has paid off the amount spent on him almost immediately after the transfer.
Listen mate I am a chartered accountant and I know about finances. Value for money to Manchester United is not Pogba selling shirts. It is about Manchester United winning premier league, champions league , staying relevant and being noticed by sponsors. Falcao probably sold more shirts than Pogba, but that means nothing if Manchester United are not winning major honours. Stop being a silly fan boy and look at the big picture which is Manchester United Football Club. We have had David Beckham here who commercially can not be compared against any other footballer, but Fergie sold him because he put Manchester United and winning trophies first. Pogback# give me a break mate.
 

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Listen mate I am a chartered accountant and I know about finances. Value for money to Manchester United is not Pogba selling shirts. It is about Manchester United winning premier league, champions league , staying relevant and being noticed by sponsors. Falcao probably sold more shirts than Pogba, but that means nothing if Manchester United are not winning major honours. Stop being a silly fan boy and look at the big picture which is Manchester United Football Club. We have had David Beckham here who commercially can not be compared against any other footballer, but Fergie sold him because he put Manchester United and winning trophies first. Pogback# give me a break mate.
Dude, you're being ridiculous. Falcao selling more shirts than World Cup winner Pogba? For real? And comparing the Ed Woodward reign to Sir Alex Ferguson's time at the helm is also... naive, to put it nicely. I'm glad you are a chartered accountant but, honestly, it reads like you don't have a clue. Read the transcripts (or watch the presentations and webcasts) of the shareholder meetings in the past few years. It might be give you some clues on what moves the needle for Manchester United, the business.
 

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Listen mate I am a chartered accountant and I know about finances. Value for money to Manchester United is not Pogba selling shirts. It is about Manchester United winning premier league, champions league , staying relevant and being noticed by sponsors. Falcao probably sold more shirts than Pogba, but that means nothing if Manchester United are not winning major honours. Stop being a silly fan boy and look at the big picture which is Manchester United Football Club. We have had David Beckham here who commercially can not be compared against any other footballer, but Fergie sold him because he put Manchester United and winning trophies first. Pogback# give me a break mate.
For a claimed accountant you should really have a closer look at the numbers:
- Direct role in 47 goals in 92 PL appearances (up to June 2019)
- Involved in more goals in all competitions than any other Manchester United player (31 goals and 29 assists in 135 appearances, up to June 2019)

Now I am sure you will find some stats that portray your own viewpoint. But the reality is, he has been instrumental in our midfield and our attacks and without Pogba, we would have been significantly worse off.


Sources:
https://www.football365.com/news/paul-pogba-at-man-utd-the-ridiculously-confusing-stats#:~:text=– Pogba laid on nine Premier,than the 55 of Pogba.
 

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I hope we get him. Like my father would say sometimes: "He is a good player".

So young, so much end product. Seems like no one else can buy him this summer. This is our chance to get him.
Wow your dad once scored the winner in a Manchester Derby?!
 

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I think it’s mostly you who can't be helped. Pogba has probably paid off his transfer fee in the first year purely from merch and other commercial benefits coming along with the #PogBack hysteria.

And Bruno's arrival probably won us the CL place, which can be estimated by someone who has the time and willingness to do it but I am certain his financial impact since coming has already surpassed the amount we've spent (including future payments and addons).

Maguire as captain, England international and main reason we are 3rd best team in the league for defense and with the most clean sheets in Europe, has also definitely been worth it. But hey, rage on, my dude!
Jersey sales/merchandise don't balance things out. I'll say this, I bought a game-issue style United Jersey for the 2017/18 season, and got it crested as Pogba. Now, even if we didn't get Pogba, I'm still probably buying a new jersey as the two previous jersey's I had, had left the club (Rooney and Scholes). If I remember correctly, I was down to Martial, Pogba and Lukaku. Players rarely increase jersey sales, they just tend to chance who you get a jersey of. I heard that was what happened with our purchases of Kagawa in Japan and Park in Korea.
 

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Can anyone link a good video to understand the player he is? I have seen one or two Dortmund games, but that’s about it.
 

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I think alot of fans are downplaying the potential influence Sancho could have here if he hits the ground running. If he performs he'll outshine all of Rashford and Martial (I won't include Greenwood as I guess we are still assessing the ceiling of his talent). We will have one of the best midfields in the league then a very potent front three. When is the last time we also had a consistent right side winger, not probably since prime Valencia was feeding Rooney his dinner for goals throughout the 2010 season.
 

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Hindsight is wonderful with Stones. He was young and had a lot of promise. Everton are a rich club and didn't have any need to sell. 50 was steep but made sense at the time.
To be fair a lot of us on here, myself included felt 50m for Stones was insane. He was a bad defender at Everton. He's still a bad defender and will likely always be a bad defender.
 

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So, i've not been following this saga at all. Can anyone please sumarize: it's SanchON?
You haven't missed much mate....from page 1 to 350 the people supposedly in the know have talked a lot but said nothing!
 

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How good is this guy then? He’s got good stats but so did Mkhitaryan and Kagawa. I suppose the major positive is that he fits into English football more than those 2.
Oh believe me this kid is a game changer. I’ve watched too much of him. Him with our existing forwards is frightening! God help premier league defences!
 
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