Spain are also including anti body tests.
SARS CoV-2 coronavirus / Covid-19 (No tin foil hat silliness please)
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Well the numbers did go down everywhere because of lockdown, some on here thought it was a good idea to open up when it clearly is not. 'Do you think we should lockdown forever' said some. Well yeah, if the pattern of fall / rise keeps happening then by proxy it will go on forever.UK 120 deaths and 880 cases.
Looks like we're joining the resurgence party in Europe and we never got the numbers down enough to begin with.
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I've not. Walked past my nearest beer garden (behind a pub I've only ever been in once as it was shite) earlier and it was heaving with people, far more than I'd be comfortable sitting among in normal circumstances, nevermind now. Sadly all the pubs near me are shite and I'd have to make a trip into the centre of Manchester to go to one that I'd have faith was taking this in any way seriously.Have many here been back in bars and restaurants yet? Is it back to normal or are people actually distancing?
It occurs to me that given I've barely left my house apart from food, childcare and haircut so I've little concept of what the world is like.
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But it can’t go on forever. At a point life has to go on because there is no life to protect.Well the numbers did go down everywhere because of lockdown, some on here thought it was a good idea to open up when it clearly is not. 'Do you think we should lockdown forever' said some. Well yeah, if the pattern of fall / rise keeps happening then by proxy it will go on forever.
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Then many people will die of poverty and other problems alas totally defeating the object of lockdown in the first place.Well the numbers did go down everywhere because of lockdown, some on here thought it was a good idea to open up when it clearly is not. 'Do you think we should lockdown forever' said some. Well yeah, if the pattern of fall / rise keeps happening then by proxy it will go on forever.
There has to be a balance somewhere, do we really want to consign our children/grandchildren to a life of just living to merely exist, at best?
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At the time you posted that I was in my local Tesco Extra, on the way from Ashton to Oldham - a covid hotspot. I was in a minority by wearing a mask, with those who weren't being your typical local meathead middle aged blokes and younger men who obviously spend a lot of time in the gym. Asserting their alpha-Ness being as loud as possible obviously hoping to draw attention to themselves and their unmasked faces. cnuts basically.Let's hope this resurgence is nipped in the bud. I wouldn't advocate introducing full lockdown measures but governments should go back a stage if necessary.
People might also be becoming too relaxed and need to correct their behaviour
On the way there and back I passed a barbers shop, where neither barbers or the people getting their tramlines shaved wore masks.
We're in this global situation for the long haul as idiocy is endemic.
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Ive been the pub numerous times now and it’s been really well done. Been to the Parr’s Wood/Woodstock and Fletcher Moss around Didsbury way. All of them had socially distanced well.I've not. Walked past my nearest beer garden (behind a pub I've only ever been in once as it was shite) earlier and it was heaving with people, far more than I'd be comfortable sitting among in normal circumstances, nevermind now. Sadly all the pubs near me are shite and I'd have to make a trip into the centre of Manchester to go to one that I'd have faith was taking this in any way seriously.
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I really should update my location. Sure the bars in Chorlton and Didsbury are doing a much better job than those here in Ashton. I mean they know how to draw in customers by serving beer from breweries other than Robinsons for a start!Ive been the pub numerous times now and it’s been really well done. Been to the Parr’s Wood/Woodstock and Fletcher Moss around Didsbury way. All of them had socially distanced well.
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deaths usually comes 2 weeks after the infections. the spike started 1 week ago approx.Also on the topic of Spain, what the hell is going on with their deaths data? It's basically 2 a day for weeks now, it can't possibly be true.
9 deaths, 379 new cases in Italy. This is an alarming increase in new cases.UK 120 deaths and 880 cases.
Looks like we're joining the resurgence party in Europe and we never got the numbers down enough to begin with.
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Life go on?? You mean open up, infect others, lockdown, open up, infect others etc? Thats the current trend almost globally, how would you stop that trend?But it can’t go on forever. At a point life has to go on because there is no life to protect.
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I’ve gone down to Cornwall for the first time in six months to see family. Locals are obviously furious at the amount of tourists coming down, but at the same time there’s so many people/places not giving a shit about things. I haven’t seen one person wearing a mask in the local shop to where I’m staying. A lot of the bars are set up well outdoors, but indoors it’s just business as usual.
It’s anti holidaymakers at the best of times here, but it’s a whole new level now. I wouldn’t be surprised if there’s local lockdowns by September, but it’ll be as much the fault of the locals as the tourists.
It’s anti holidaymakers at the best of times here, but it’s a whole new level now. I wouldn’t be surprised if there’s local lockdowns by September, but it’ll be as much the fault of the locals as the tourists.
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I know what you mean. My partner came up to Scotland from London for a a week and a bit recently (After not seeing each other for 4-5 months due to respecting the lockdown and precautions) and we would always make sure to be distancing from people, wearing masks etc. There were a bunch of local people I saw during that period who were not respecting the rules or wearing masks etc. It's frustrating because it makes you question whether you're doing the right thing but we made sure that we were as safe as possible. It is about common sense but sadly the majority of the nation does not have it at all so you cannot rely on that as your stance.I’ve gone down to Cornwall for the first time in six months to see family. Locals are obviously furious at the amount of tourists coming down, but at the same time there’s so many people/places not giving a shit about things. I haven’t seen one person wearing a mask in the local shop to where I’m staying. A lot of the bars are set up well outdoors, but indoors it’s just business as usual.
It’s anti holidaymakers at the best of times here, but it’s a whole new level now. I wouldn’t be surprised if there’s local lockdowns by September, but it’ll be as much the fault of the locals as the tourists.
It's weird how people are wearing masks in some areas and not in others. I was in a massive Tesco in Lancashire this afternoon and every single person was masked up, without exception. Being school holidays there were lots of older children/young teenagers and they were all in masks too, all of them. Same in the garage paying for petrol, everyone put their mask on before going in to pay.
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Not even areas. You get massive variation from venue to venue. I go to two climbing gyms. In one of them everyone wears a face covering. But you don’t even see one in the other place. Yet they’re both working to the same rules. It’s really odd.It's weird how people are wearing masks in some areas and not in others. I was in a massive Tesco in Lancashire this afternoon and every single person was masked up, without exception. Being school holidays there were lots of older children/young teenagers and they were all in masks too, all of them. Same in the garage paying for petrol, everyone put their mask on before going in to pay.
What benefit would a curfew have? Would limiting the hours people can be out and about not just increase the numbers of people out at the same time which is even worse for transmission?Boris should introduce a curfew...and if you break the rules, £250 fine.
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Wow, some of you gus would love a totalitarian state.Boris should introduce a curfew...and if you break the rules, £250 fine.
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Keeping it classy on the south coast.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news...acked-despite-covid-19-social-distancing-plea
Some of the pics I've seen the beaches are so packed and littered with crap that even under normal circumstances I wouldn't wanna hang out there.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news...acked-despite-covid-19-social-distancing-plea
Some of the pics I've seen the beaches are so packed and littered with crap that even under normal circumstances I wouldn't wanna hang out there.
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Fun times ahead for the NHS.Keeping it classy on the south coast.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news...acked-despite-covid-19-social-distancing-plea
Some of the pics I've seen the beaches are so packed and littered with crap that even under normal circumstances I wouldn't wanna hang out there.
Volumiza
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Yeah, it’s nuts, we’re not even considering planning any kind of (I hate myself for using this really shit word ... forgive me lord) staycation (aaaargh, who invented that word?) as everywhere will be the same, rammed with people who are beyond care and awareness.Keeping it classy on the south coast.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news...acked-despite-covid-19-social-distancing-plea
Some of the pics I've seen the beaches are so packed and littered with crap that even under normal circumstances I wouldn't wanna hang out there.
Or sensible health protection as we call it. Regulation by the state is exactly for this purpose - when society needs to be protected from itself.Wow, some of you gus would love a totalitarian state.
Volumiza
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Crazy isn’t it? The signs are all there that the virus is about to rear it’s head again and people just can’t be careful.Fun times ahead for the NHS.
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I live in Anglesey and so surrounded by beaches . No one local goes to the touristy beaches as they are packed out , covered in litter and disgusting. It is either don't go to the beach or go to the lesser known places where you have to walk a mile maybe to get there but it's as normal and quiet and clean when you are there .Keeping it classy on the south coast.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news...acked-despite-covid-19-social-distancing-plea
Some of the pics I've seen the beaches are so packed and littered with crap that even under normal circumstances I wouldn't wanna hang out there.
Treaddur bay area all the houses on the coast are holiday homes and it was magical during full lockdown, there wasn't a soul about , like a ghost town. The rest of the village is .mostly elderly retired people living there and my wife works as a carer there she said it is mayhem at the moment . Most of the elderly are scared stiff of stepping out their doors.
If you want any shopping the only way is early doors before anyone is up, I do my mother and father in laws 7 o'clock in the morning otherwise you have no chance. Still don't have to wear masks in shops in Wales so no one does , it is madness.
Anyway , pubs are allowing folk indoors from Monday , things can only get better.
Come to covid island on holiday.
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Think if you dig down on the latest data coming from hospitals (where the majority of people die), the average amounts of death is about 10-15 per day in NHS england and wales. So I rekon a lot of the deaths recording on the daily figure are backdated. ONS figure is about 55k for whole country. I would keep an eye on the weekly ONS data for any second wave.I'm genuinely scared at how bad this "second" wave is going to be.
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Winter is coming
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Should be a £1,000 minimum ...fair to say what price do you put on a persons life?Wow, some of you gus would love a totalitarian state.
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Heres what i dont understand. If people are worried that the public will stay in more since its colder, isnt that a sort of lockdown? A lockdown thats proven to fight it back?Winter is coming
Wumminator
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I genuinely don’t get the anger towards people on a beach. Listen, I am not going myself as I find beaches annoying anyway. But surely they’re outside and distanced?
Wumminator
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It drives people away from beaches and parks into pubs and house gatherings.Heres what i dont understand. If people are worried that the public will stay in more since its colder, isnt that a sort of lockdown? A lockdown thats proven to fight it back?
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Ah makes sense.It drives people away from beaches and parks into pubs and house gatherings.
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It's an assumption of my own making because I've not been to a beach but from seeing some of the photos it seems clear to me that some are so crowded on the sand and in the sea that safe distancing can't be guaranteed.I genuinely don’t get the anger towards people on a beach. Listen, I am not going myself as I find beaches annoying anyway. But surely they’re outside and distanced?
The stats in France show that it's coming back. Strangely enough it's mainly in the same places than before the lockdown, Paris and in general the northern part of the country with Marseille, Lyon and the Gard. Guyane and Mayenne are the only regions that weren't really touched before and they seem to be out of control.Crazy isn’t it? The signs are all there that the virus is about to rear it’s head again and people just can’t be careful.
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Coupled with the virus itself being more resilient in colder weather.It drives people away from beaches and parks into pubs and house gatherings.
Is this based upon new covid cases.The stats in France show that it's coming back. Strangely enough it's mainly in the same places than before the lockdown, Paris and in general the northern part of the country with Marseille, Lyon and the Gard. Guyane and Mayenne are the only regions that weren't really touched before and they seem to be out of control.
I had the impression that France had a more stringent lockdown than the UK. And that people in general were more accepting of the wearing of face masks.
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I'm at least reasonably impressed the government are out with early warnings of the second wave. I expected they'd ignore it until the last second to be honest.
Whity and SAGE seem to be being braver in setting the message as well. We've reached our relaxation threshold and if we want to open up schools etc we need to give something else up.
Whity and SAGE seem to be being braver in setting the message as well. We've reached our relaxation threshold and if we want to open up schools etc we need to give something else up.