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It’s not just Germano, Billy Wright was a late pick for a player of his standing and Santamaria could feasibly have gone sooner as arguably the most accomplished central defender in the pool
Billy Wright has only 2 games available from what I know and both were shite performances from what I remember, so understandable. Germano and Santamaria have a much larger body of work available, especially Germano

Completely agree on Santamaria though. Was my first choice defender pick as well For this draft.
 

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Ok, sounds interesting.

shame I’ve had a mare putting my team together :nervous: :lol:
 

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Billy Wright has only 2 games available from what I know and both were shite performances from what I remember, so understandable. Germano and Santamaria have a much larger body of work available, especially Germano

Completely agree on Santamaria though. Was my first choice defender pick as well For this draft.

Thought he had a good game here myself. Santamaria is one of the best defenders in the draft no doubt and Germano is severely underrated, in many ways similar to Schulz imo.
 

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I don't like being behind you two in a draft one bit... :lol:
:lol: You'll be dismayed to learn that you've yet to really screw us over!

EDIT: Goes without saying that there's several of your squad that I would love to poach, just no-one that we were completely banking on so far.
 
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Gheorghe Popescu will be my next selection please

ManagerRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7Round 8Round 9Round 10Round 11Round 12Round 13Round 14Time (min)
1. harmsG. NetzerM. BelodediciH. KranklR. PavoniH. WimmerP. SousaI. ChislenkoM. ReusW. Samuel323
2. Enigma_87RivellinoM. TrésorJ. PirriMaiconCarecaA. VidalS. ManeT. MüllerV. Kompany385
3. Joga & TheonB.VogtsA.PicchiA.SpencerD. ZoffD. MackayB.WrightJ. VerónT. HaßlerA. Giresse394
4. Zlatan 7C. SeedorfAldairJ. KlinsmannS. BusquetsR. DonadoniM. ReizigerD. AlbertiniS. PearceD. Ginola638
5. PhysiocratB. SchusterF. AlbertJ. SantamariaJ. CeulemansH. CrespoM. ZagalloV. BessonovM. CarrickE. Hughes107
6. Šjor Bepo & GioA. PirloHidegkutiK. MbappéP. GascoigneN. KantéC. MozerW.SagnolW. ZengaB. Dietz373
7. Michaelf7777777R. BochiniN. GoncalvesLeandroJ. CharlesM. SalahC. GamarraT. GemmellM. KhurtsilavaG. BulgarelliG. Popescu3007
8. Edgar Allan PillowD. BeckhamD. IrwinT. AdamsG. SilvaB. MurdochR. PiresA. ColeD. YorkeB. McNeillA. Shearer367
9. King KendrickSócratesV. Van DijkM. BallackS. RamosE. CantonaE. HazardR. SterlingJuanfranW. JansenF. De Boer102
10. SirScholesS. AgueroTostaoJ. TerryF. CollovatiM. TassotiL. BradyG. HoddleCasemiroA. OrtegaD. Seaman1316
11. BIG DUNKD. BergkampJ. HeynckesF. BeneL. YashinG. BuchwaldR. PerfumoJorginhoR. BenettiR. GordilloL. Fernandez443
12. IndnycR. LewandowskiF. LampardRui CostaG. GattusoS. BruceR. AyalaC. PanucciV. AndersonY. ToureN. Southhall318
13. Pat_Mustard & Jim BeamMarceloR. KoemanL. KubalaE. FrancescoliE. CambiassoI. CasillasO. BergmarkT. Alexander - ArnoldN. LiedholmD. Pereyra524
14. FortitudeT. FinneyT. CerezoA. HaanU. HoenessD. StojkovićR. VaraneG. HanappiJ. AltafiniJ. AlbaJ. Kimmich789
15. HimannvK. KeeganK. DalglishB. HulshoffH. SzymaniakJ. ArmfieldJ. RepJ. LitmanenH. BlankenburgK SansomJ. Giles199
16. GodShaveTheQueenK. HamrinO. SivoriD. BlanchflowerB. BremnerJ. FontaineP. LittbarskiR. BratsethA. BenarrivoGermanoG. Grosics42

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ManagerRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7Round 8Round 9Round 10Round 11Round 12Round 13Round 14Time (min)
1. harmsG. NetzerM. BelodediciH. KranklR. PavoniH. WimmerP. SousaI. ChislenkoM. ReusW. Samuel323
2. Enigma_87RivellinoM. TrésorJ. PirriMaiconCarecaA. VidalS. ManeT. MüllerV. Kompany385
3. Joga & TheonB.VogtsA.PicchiA.SpencerD. ZoffD. MackayB.WrightJ. VerónT. HaßlerA. Giresse394
4. Zlatan 7C. SeedorfAldairJ. KlinsmannS. BusquetsR. DonadoniM. ReizigerD. AlbertiniS. PearceD. Ginola638
5. PhysiocratB. SchusterF. AlbertJ. SantamariaJ. CeulemansH. CrespoM. ZagalloV. BessonovM. CarrickE. HughesJ-M. Pfaff175
6. Šjor Bepo & GioA. PirloHidegkutiK. MbappéP. GascoigneN. KantéC. MozerW.SagnolW. ZengaB. DietzR. Ferri497
7. Michaelf7777777R. BochiniN. GoncalvesLeandroJ. CharlesM. SalahC. GamarraT. GemmellM. KhurtsilavaG. BulgarelliG. Popescu3007
8. Edgar Allan PillowD. BeckhamD. IrwinT. AdamsG. SilvaB. MurdochR. PiresA. ColeD. YorkeB. McNeillA. Shearer367
9. King KendrickSócratesV. Van DijkM. BallackS. RamosE. CantonaE. HazardR. SterlingJuanfranW. JansenF. De Boer102
10. SirScholesS. AgueroTostaoJ. TerryF. CollovatiM. TassotiL. BradyG. HoddleCasemiroA. OrtegaD. Seaman1316
11. BIG DUNKD. BergkampJ. HeynckesF. BeneL. YashinG. BuchwaldR. PerfumoJorginhoR. BenettiR. GordilloL. Fernandez443
12. IndnycR. LewandowskiF. LampardRui CostaG. GattusoS. BruceR. AyalaC. PanucciV. AndersonY. ToureN. Southhall318
13. Pat_Mustard & Jim BeamMarceloR. KoemanL. KubalaE. FrancescoliE. CambiassoI. CasillasO. BergmarkT. Alexander - ArnoldN. LiedholmD. Pereyra524
14. FortitudeT. FinneyT. CerezoA. HaanU. HoenessD. StojkovićR. VaraneG. HanappiJ. AltafiniJ. AlbaJ. Kimmich789
15. HimannvK. KeeganK. DalglishB. HulshoffH. SzymaniakJ. ArmfieldJ. RepJ. LitmanenH. BlankenburgK SansomJ. Giles199
16. GodShaveTheQueenK. HamrinO. SivoriD. BlanchflowerB. BremnerJ. FontaineP. LittbarskiR. BratsethA. BenarrivoGermanoG. Grosics42

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:lol: You'll be dismayed to learn that you've yet to really screw us over!

EDIT: Goes without saying that there's several of your squad that I would love to poach, just no-one that we were completely banking on so far.
Hey! I come in peace! Just wanna get my guys in and be on my merry way. :angel:

I didn't honestly believe Kubala would come all the way back round so was gutted he was within a hair's breadth before you two cruelly snatched him away. :o

Your team is pretty eclectic so I'm not able to rest on my laurels or predict an obvious path for you, or for me to circumvent, so it's fair to say there's a few names left on the board I won't be in the least bit surprised if you take (just as I'm salivating) if the opportunity arises. Moreso with these additional rounds.
 

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ManagerRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7Round 8Round 9Round 10Round 11Round 12Round 13Round 14Time (min)
1. harmsG. NetzerM. BelodediciH. KranklR. PavoniH. WimmerP. SousaI. ChislenkoM. ReusW. Samuel323
2. Enigma_87RivellinoM. TrésorJ. PirriMaiconCarecaA. VidalS. ManeT. MüllerV. Kompany385
3. Joga & TheonB.VogtsA.PicchiA.SpencerD. ZoffD. MackayB.WrightJ. VerónT. HaßlerA. Giresse394
4. Zlatan 7C. SeedorfAldairJ. KlinsmannS. BusquetsR. DonadoniM. ReizigerD. AlbertiniS. PearceD. GinolaF. Barthez728
5. PhysiocratB. SchusterF. AlbertJ. SantamariaJ. CeulemansH. CrespoM. ZagalloV. BessonovM. CarrickE. HughesJ-M. Pfaff175
6. Šjor Bepo & GioA. PirloHidegkutiK. MbappéP. GascoigneN. KantéC. MozerW.SagnolW. ZengaB. DietzR. Ferri497
7. Michaelf7777777R. BochiniN. GoncalvesLeandroJ. CharlesM. SalahC. GamarraT. GemmellM. KhurtsilavaG. BulgarelliG. Popescu3007
8. Edgar Allan PillowD. BeckhamD. IrwinT. AdamsG. SilvaB. MurdochR. PiresA. ColeD. YorkeB. McNeillA. Shearer367
9. King KendrickSócratesV. Van DijkM. BallackS. RamosE. CantonaE. HazardR. SterlingJuanfranW. JansenF. De Boer102
10. SirScholesS. AgueroTostaoJ. TerryF. CollovatiM. TassotiL. BradyG. HoddleCasemiroA. OrtegaD. Seaman1316
11. BIG DUNKD. BergkampJ. HeynckesF. BeneL. YashinG. BuchwaldR. PerfumoJorginhoR. BenettiR. GordilloL. Fernandez443
12. IndnycR. LewandowskiF. LampardRui CostaG. GattusoS. BruceR. AyalaC. PanucciV. AndersonY. ToureN. Southhall318
13. Pat_Mustard & Jim BeamMarceloR. KoemanL. KubalaE. FrancescoliE. CambiassoI. CasillasO. BergmarkT. Alexander - ArnoldN. LiedholmD. Pereyra524
14. FortitudeT. FinneyT. CerezoA. HaanU. HoenessD. StojkovićR. VaraneG. HanappiJ. AltafiniJ. AlbaJ. Kimmich789
15. HimannvK. KeeganK. DalglishB. HulshoffH. SzymaniakJ. ArmfieldJ. RepJ. LitmanenH. BlankenburgK SansomJ. Giles199
16. GodShaveTheQueenK. HamrinO. SivoriD. BlanchflowerB. BremnerJ. FontaineP. LittbarskiR. BratsethA. BenarrivoGermanoG. Grosics42
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This rule of goalkeeper ranking settling draws is so shit. The goalkeepers picked so far have all been in the same order as those rankings. So it has made them even more pointless. Might as well name them GK1 to GK50 from the list.
 

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This rule of goalkeeper ranking settling draws is so shit. The goalkeepers picked so far have all been in the same order as those rankings. So it has made them even more pointless. Might as well name them GK1 to GK50 from the list.
Where are the rankings? I had no idea of these when picking barthez
 

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Southall is 25 on that list, I picked southall in my first ever draft (moustache criteria) and got laughed out of the place
 

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TBH, with 38 goalkeepers blocked and 6-7 already picked it makes close to zero difference in terms of quality, so might as well just go with the higher ranked, which is what I did with Croy. Although with Pfaff for me he still was the best left regardless of ranking.
So if there was a zona Mista team with Zoff in there and tiki taka team with Ederson in there and the game is a draw but Zoff wins because he was the better goalkeeper which makes no sense as both goalkeepers suit their team perfectly. The rule assumes all goalkeepers suit all setups. Is the tiki taka guy supposed to pick Zoff ahead of Ederson?
 

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I should have found that list first maybe. I’m not a really prepared drafter and make most of my choices from memory
Tbf that list makes zero sense
De gea is like 15 places above toldo, he’s ahead of some pretty amazing goalkeepers
 

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So if there was a zona Mista team with Zoff in there and tiki taka team with Ederson in there and the game is a draw but Zoff wins because he was the better goalkeeper which makes no sense as both goalkeepers suit their team perfectly. The rule assumes all goalkeepers suit all setups. Is the tiki taka guy supposed to pick Zoff ahead of Ederson?
Since we're going to be ranking each others sides why don't we make it so that the lowest seed wins? The reason being he had the more difficult task. He would either have to out argue or have the better tactics. This wouldn't be perfect but would probably be a good solution.

I picked Pfaff as he was the best keeper left. I looked at another but Pfaff's bigger league experience swung it
 

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Tbf that list makes zero sense
De gea is like 15 places above toldo, he’s ahead of some pretty amazing goalkeepers
But that’s the list that counts so I suppose that’s all that matters going by the draft rules.
It’s highly unlikely I’ll draw my match anyway so the keeper is of no bother to me
 
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ManagerRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7Round 8Round 9Round 10Round 11Round 12Round 13Round 14Time (min)
1. harmsG. NetzerM. BelodediciH. KranklR. PavoniH. WimmerP. SousaI. ChislenkoM. ReusW. SamuelD. CarvajalH. Schumacher404
2. Enigma_87RivellinoM. TrésorJ. PirriMaiconCarecaA. VidalS. ManeT. MüllerV. KompanyJ. CroyTIME NOT UPDATED!385
3. Joga & TheonB.VogtsA.PicchiA.SpencerD. ZoffD. MackayB.WrightJ. VerónT. HaßlerA. GiresseBebetoTIME NOT UPDATED!394
4. Zlatan 7C. SeedorfAldairJ. KlinsmannS. BusquetsR. DonadoniM. ReizigerD. AlbertiniS. PearceD. GinolaF. Barthez728
5. PhysiocratB. SchusterF. AlbertJ. SantamariaJ. CeulemansH. CrespoM. ZagalloV. BessonovM. CarrickE. HughesJ-M. Pfaff175
6. Šjor Bepo & GioA. PirloHidegkutiK. MbappéP. GascoigneN. KantéC. MozerW.SagnolW. ZengaB. DietzR. Ferri497
7. Michaelf7777777R. BochiniN. GoncalvesLeandroJ. CharlesM. SalahC. GamarraT. GemmellM. KhurtsilavaG. BulgarelliG. Popescu3007
8. Edgar Allan PillowD. BeckhamD. IrwinT. AdamsG. SilvaB. MurdochR. PiresA. ColeD. YorkeB. McNeillA. Shearer367
9. King KendrickSócratesV. Van DijkM. BallackS. RamosE. CantonaE. HazardR. SterlingJuanfranW. JansenF. De Boer102
10. SirScholesS. AgueroTostaoJ. TerryF. CollovatiM. TassotiL. BradyG. HoddleCasemiroA. OrtegaD. Seaman1316
11. BIG DUNKD. BergkampJ. HeynckesF. BeneL. YashinG. BuchwaldR. PerfumoJorginhoR. BenettiR. GordilloL. Fernandez443
12. IndnycR. LewandowskiF. LampardRui CostaG. GattusoS. BruceR. AyalaC. PanucciV. AndersonY. ToureN. Southhall318
13. Pat_Mustard & Jim BeamMarceloR. KoemanL. KubalaE. FrancescoliE. CambiassoI. CasillasO. BergmarkT. Alexander - ArnoldN. LiedholmD. Pereyra524
14. FortitudeT. FinneyT. CerezoA. HaanU. HoenessD. StojkovićR. VaraneG. HanappiJ. AltafiniJ. AlbaJ. Kimmich789
15. HimannvK. KeeganK. DalglishB. HulshoffH. SzymaniakJ. ArmfieldJ. RepJ. LitmanenH. BlankenburgK SansomJ. Giles199
16. GodShaveTheQueenK. HamrinO. SivoriD. BlanchflowerB. BremnerJ. FontaineP. LittbarskiR. BratsethA. BenarrivoGermanoG. Grosics42
 

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ManagerRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7Round 8Round 9Round 10Round 11Round 12Round 13Round 14Time (min)
1. harmsG. NetzerM. BelodediciH. KranklR. PavoniH. WimmerP. SousaI. ChislenkoM. ReusW. SamuelD. CarvajalH. Schumacher404
2. Enigma_87RivellinoM. TrésorJ. PirriMaiconCarecaA. VidalS. ManeT. MüllerV. KompanyJ. CroyG. Pessotto393
3. Joga & TheonB.VogtsA.PicchiA.SpencerD. ZoffD. MackayB.WrightJ. VerónT. HaßlerA. GiresseBebetoTIME NOT UPDATED!394
4. Zlatan 7C. SeedorfAldairJ. KlinsmannS. BusquetsR. DonadoniM. ReizigerD. AlbertiniS. PearceD. GinolaF. Barthez728
5. PhysiocratB. SchusterF. AlbertJ. SantamariaJ. CeulemansH. CrespoM. ZagalloV. BessonovM. CarrickE. HughesJ-M. Pfaff175
6. Šjor Bepo & GioA. PirloHidegkutiK. MbappéP. GascoigneN. KantéC. MozerW.SagnolW. ZengaB. DietzR. Ferri497
7. Michaelf7777777R. BochiniN. GoncalvesLeandroJ. CharlesM. SalahC. GamarraT. GemmellM. KhurtsilavaG. BulgarelliG. Popescu3007
8. Edgar Allan PillowD. BeckhamD. IrwinT. AdamsG. SilvaB. MurdochR. PiresA. ColeD. YorkeB. McNeillA. Shearer367
9. King KendrickSócratesV. Van DijkM. BallackS. RamosE. CantonaE. HazardR. SterlingJuanfranW. JansenF. De Boer102
10. SirScholesS. AgueroTostaoJ. TerryF. CollovatiM. TassotiL. BradyG. HoddleCasemiroA. OrtegaD. Seaman1316
11. BIG DUNKD. BergkampJ. HeynckesF. BeneL. YashinG. BuchwaldR. PerfumoJorginhoR. BenettiR. GordilloL. Fernandez443
12. IndnycR. LewandowskiF. LampardRui CostaG. GattusoS. BruceR. AyalaC. PanucciV. AndersonY. ToureN. Southhall318
13. Pat_Mustard & Jim BeamMarceloR. KoemanL. KubalaE. FrancescoliE. CambiassoI. CasillasO. BergmarkT. Alexander - ArnoldN. LiedholmD. Pereyra524
14. FortitudeT. FinneyT. CerezoA. HaanU. HoenessD. StojkovićR. VaraneG. HanappiJ. AltafiniJ. AlbaJ. Kimmich789
15. HimannvK. KeeganK. DalglishB. HulshoffH. SzymaniakJ. ArmfieldJ. RepJ. LitmanenH. BlankenburgK SansomJ. Giles199
16. GodShaveTheQueenK. HamrinO. SivoriD. BlanchflowerB. BremnerJ. FontaineP. LittbarskiR. BratsethA. BenarrivoGermanoG. Grosics42
 

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So if there was a zona Mista team with Zoff in there and tiki taka team with Ederson in there and the game is a draw but Zoff wins because he was the better goalkeeper which makes no sense as both goalkeepers suit their team perfectly. The rule assumes all goalkeepers suit all setups. Is the tiki taka guy supposed to pick Zoff ahead of Ederson?
You are right on tiki taka teams, but here I don't think any manager employed that approach which makes the decision making rather "mechanic".
 

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So if there was a zona Mista team with Zoff in there and tiki taka team with Ederson in there and the game is a draw but Zoff wins because he was the better goalkeeper which makes no sense as both goalkeepers suit their team perfectly. The rule assumes all goalkeepers suit all setups. Is the tiki taka guy supposed to pick Zoff ahead of Ederson?
But that mismatch between keeper and team style would surely have already been reflected in the voting.
 

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So if there was a zona Mista team with Zoff in there and tiki taka team with Ederson in there and the game is a draw but Zoff wins because he was the better goalkeeper which makes no sense as both goalkeepers suit their team perfectly. The rule assumes all goalkeepers suit all setups. Is the tiki taka guy supposed to pick Zoff ahead of Ederson?
Think you’re conflating two different things. There’s nothing stopping someone picking a goalkeeper which is lower down in the Caf rankings if it suits their team better, and there’s nothing stopping voters penalising someone playing a tika taka system if they have a keeper that doesn’t fit.

Edit - as Gio just said above.