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I am not saying the deal won't get done. I'd just like to get things done early for once, especially given that there is no "long summer" break between seasons. We need players in as soon as possible so they can start to train with the squad (not everyone can do what Bruno did). Also, as I said, Dortmund have put a time on this deal to be done... or are all of you saying that Woodward's track record is good?
The window has only just opened, he'll be signed early this month. How is that not "done early"? Whinge whinge whinge. We're signing Sancho. I pity you being so miserable.
 

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The window has only just opened, he'll be signed early this month. How is that not "done early"? Whinge whinge whinge. We're signing Sancho. I pity you being so miserable.
I pity people who just trust others blindly
 

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"Forwards Marcus Rashford and Mason Greenwood and goalkeeper David de Gea have all signed new deals in the past 13 months, and United would not want to put themselves into a position where they have to revisit them."

Does Stone really have the inside story or is he trying to spoil the fun. I don't know how much Sancho is after, but even if he was asking for a Messi-type contract, de Gea would not be asking for an improved deal given what he's earning. Greenwood is surely in line to get a bumper new deal if he hasn't already, and it wouldn't surprise me if it were similar to Shaw and Lingard's contracts, but merited.

I doubt Stone is sniffing in the right places.
If De Gea asked for a new deal I think they would sell him. He isn't performing well enough or consistently enough. Agree Greenwood will get another deal if he continues at this rate, but Sancho is further along with his development so deserves more money.
 

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If you think it's that easy when you talking 100m plus, then theres not much more to say.
I never said it was easy but either we want him and pay the fee or we don't - and Woodward's track record is not great. If so many people disagree, why do so many here (rightly) want a DoF
 

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H.O.L.Y. fecking shit this is tiresome. G.R.R. Martin might actually finish Winds of Winter before our transfer targets are secured. It's the same year after year. You know via the ITKs in the media, if we are really interested in a player, then you add two months of negotiating and then he's ours. It all makes sense taking our sweet time, getting the best and cheapest deal possible, but by god it kills the excitement for me.

Loved the feeling as a kid, just woken, finding out via Teletext or the newspaper, that United signed somebody out of the blue.

Anyways, we need this kid to smoothly replace Sanchez in the song, and Ed knows it.
 

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Torres signed... I'll take apologies in the form or jelly babies :)
How does that negate what I said? I wasn't saying he wasn't going to sign but the same sources calling the deal are the sources who are saying agreement for Sancho is close, which show you up for spouting shit.
 

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H.O.L.Y. fecking shit this is tiresome. G.R.R. Martin might actually finish Winds of Winter before our transfer targets are secured. It's the same year after year. You know via the ITKs in the media, if we are really interested in a player, then you add two months of negotiating and then he's ours. It all makes sense taking our sweet time, getting the best and cheapest deal possible, but by god it kills the excitement for me.

Loved the feeling as a kid, just woken, finding out via Teletext or the newspaper, that United signed somebody out of the blue.

Anyways, we need this kid to smoothly replace Sanchez in the song, and Ed knows it.
Agreed. Oh that day we signed Eric, catching the world unawares
 

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H.O.L.Y. fecking shit this is tiresome. G.R.R. Martin might actually finish Winds of Winter before our transfer targets are secured. It's the same year after year. You know via the ITKs in the media, if we are really interested in a player, then you add two months of negotiating and then he's ours. It all makes sense taking our sweet time, getting the best and cheapest deal possible, but by god it kills the excitement for me.

Loved the feeling as a kid, just woken, finding out via Teletext or the newspaper, that United signed somebody out of the blue.

Anyways, we need this kid to smoothly replace Sanchez in the song, and Ed knows it.
Except we usually pay the asking price anyway after months of negotiation.
 

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I'm not having a pop but I think most of Pogba's detractors are in the same boat. They never watched him enough for Juve and had a mad idea of the player they were getting. For me he's lived up to what I expected, but I watched a lot of him playing in that Juve side and have many games like he has for us. I think Youtube compilations have a lot to blame for why Pogba is regarded as such a disappointment. He's never been the star game changing man really which is what people thought they were getting, more a brilliant cog in a well oiled machine. Hopefully next season he can be that for us, now that we actually look to be building a machine and not a load of spare parts thrown together.
We signed him for a world record fee. Naturally people expected more.
 

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How does that negate what I said? I wasn't saying he wasn't going to sign but the same sources calling the deal are the sources who are saying agreement for Sancho is close, which show you up for spouting shit.
didn't you say City has not signed anyone?
 

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If you want a signing to be out of the blue, get out of the transfer forum and stay off social media. It's literally as simple as that.
So true :lol:
I miss the days a transfer was announced out of the blue! Anyway what’s going on in the Sancho thread today?!
 

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Fabrizio Romano on the United stand on Thursday no idea what time but cant wait to see what hes got to say
 

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If you want a signing to be out of the blue, get out of the transfer forum and stay off social media. It's literally as simple as that.
True... I did delete all SOME, but this place is my fireplace in the stormy snow, so I can't do that to myself. :(
 

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I am not saying the deal won't get done. I'd just like to get things done early for once, especially given that there is no "long summer" break between seasons. We need players in as soon as possible so they can start to train with the squad (not everyone can do what Bruno did). Also, as I said, Dortmund have put a time on this deal to be done... or are all of you saying that Woodward's track record is good?
I doubt that Sancho would join up with the Europa League training camp anyway. He'll take the rest of the summer off and just join whatever passes for our pre-season this year.
 

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If I had the choice of choosing only one of the below 2 Options, I would 100 percent choose option 2.

1 - sign sancho for £100 million
2 - sign Zaha and grealish for £100 million

Grealish can play 4-5 attacking positions to a very high level and Zaha is a brilliant winger and soon to be 28. I’d do this and sign sancho next year.

Assuming and hoping the Jiminez( £30 million) rumours are true, we would be very well placed.

Our back 5 picks itself and I’d say that’s 5 first teamers there and there replacements I wouldn’t call first teamers (players who should be starting.) Then in midfield and attack we would have around 11 (12 next year with sancho) first teamers.

Matic, Fred, Mctominay, Pogba, Grealish, Zaha, Jiminez, Martial, Rashford, Greeenwood, Bruno, (Sancho).

16-17 first team ready players with the right age blend which is what all teams need in the modern game. Zaha and Jiminez Will be 29 & 30 when sancho signs giving us a balanced but potent squad.
It's incredible how some United fans just can't learn the lessons of the last few years. Packing the team with "can do a job" players is a distinctly inferior strategy compared to actually getting in real top quality. We should know this by now, after years of relying on the likes of Lingard and Fellaini.
 

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"Forwards Marcus Rashford and Mason Greenwood and goalkeeper David de Gea have all signed new deals in the past 13 months, and United would not want to put themselves into a position where they have to revisit them."

Does Stone really have the inside story or is he trying to spoil the fun. I don't know how much Sancho is after, but even if he was asking for a Messi-type contract, de Gea would not be asking for an improved deal given what he's earning. Greenwood is surely in line to get a bumper new deal if he hasn't already, and it wouldn't surprise me if it were similar to Shaw and Lingard's contracts, but merited.

I doubt Stone is sniffing in the right places.
I don't get it, it's something that has to be done for Rashford and Greenwood if we sign Sancho or not,, both are on contracts that expire in 23. Greenwood isn't on a lot of money and we'll be keen to give him an extension within the next year. Rashford will probably get an extension with added bonuses, doubt his basic salary is going to get that much of an increase considering the money he's already on.
 

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If I had the choice of choosing only one of the below 2 Options, I would 100 percent choose option 2.

1 - sign sancho for £100 million
2 - sign Zaha and grealish for £100 million

Grealish can play 4-5 attacking positions to a very high level and Zaha is a brilliant winger and soon to be 28. I’d do this and sign sancho next year.

Assuming and hoping the Jiminez( £30 million) rumours are true, we would be very well placed.

Our back 5 picks itself and I’d say that’s 5 first teamers there and there replacements I wouldn’t call first teamers (players who should be starting.) Then in midfield and attack we would have around 11 (12 next year with sancho) first teamers.

Matic, Fred, Mctominay, Pogba, Grealish, Zaha, Jiminez, Martial, Rashford, Greeenwood, Bruno, (Sancho).

16-17 first team ready players with the right age blend which is what all teams need in the modern game. Zaha and Jiminez Will be 29 & 30 when sancho signs giving us a balanced but potent squad.
Zaha and Graelish for £100m :houllier:

Zaha is nowhere near good enough playing for a TOP 6 club and he is 27 so should be at his peak already.
Graelish is decent but massively overrated IMO. Not worth more than £40m.

So I would rather get 1 top player than 2 average ones.
 

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If I had the choice of choosing only one of the below 2 Options, I would 100 percent choose option 2.

1 - sign sancho for £100 million
2 - sign Zaha and grealish for £100 million

Grealish can play 4-5 attacking positions to a very high level and Zaha is a brilliant winger and soon to be 28. I’d do this and sign sancho next year.

Assuming and hoping the Jiminez( £30 million) rumours are true, we would be very well placed.

Our back 5 picks itself and I’d say that’s 5 first teamers there and there replacements I wouldn’t call first teamers (players who should be starting.) Then in midfield and attack we would have around 11 (12 next year with sancho) first teamers.

Matic, Fred, Mctominay, Pogba, Grealish, Zaha, Jiminez, Martial, Rashford, Greeenwood, Bruno, (Sancho).

16-17 first team ready players with the right age blend which is what all teams need in the modern game. Zaha and Jiminez Will be 29 & 30 when sancho signs giving us a balanced but potent squad.
I don't think there's any combination of players available for a combined cost of £100 million that i would choose over Sancho. His age, his current ability and his potential just make him an ideal signing for any club but especially for united with a gaping hole on the right wing.
 

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I think people rate zaha because arsenal tried to buy him last year. He would the perfect moyes signing.

Sancho is a one time opportunity that will change things for real and in the future make us title challengers again.
Moyes never rates him. They were making jokes that Zaha fecked Moyes daughter and that's why he was not selected in playing 11. But he has improved quite a lot in Crystal Palace.

But we don't need him now. Let some club buy him for good money ans we should be happy with 25% of transfer fee that comes to us.
 

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It's incredible how some United fans just can't learn the lessons of the last few years. Packing the team with "can do a job" players is a distinctly inferior strategy compared to actually getting in real top quality. We should know this by now, after years of relying on the likes of Lingard and Fellaini.
It makes even less sense when you consider the fact that we already have pretty good starters and that signing the far superior Sancho will push a pretty good player on the bench. Signing Sancho improves our depth and the ceiling of our attack, we don't need to imperatively add an expensive player for our bench which is exactly what would happen with the likes of Zaha and Grealish.
 

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Trying to think rationally on this transfer and I really don't see how we don't get it done.

Like we aren't linked to anyone else at all really and other clubs are making big moves.

We really think United wouldn't have squashed all this talk of buying Sancho weeks ago if it wasn't going to happen?

Surely they don't leave Ole out to dry by not signing his top transfer target when he wants to come.

Ole held up his end of the bargain by making top 4 hard to see Ed and the Glazers being able to justify not getting him Sancho.
 

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It makes even less sense when you consider the fact that we already have pretty good starters and that signing the far superior Sancho will push a pretty good player on the bench. Signing Sancho improves our depth and the ceiling of our attack, we don't need to imperatively add an expensive player for our bench which is exactly what would happen with the likes of Zaha and Grealish.
Off topic but I don't agree with than in regards to Grealish. I don't think it'd take him long to become our best midfielder if signed.
 

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Can't believe in 2020 in a thread about us being days away from signing Sancho there's people actually positive about us signing some of the level of Wilfred Zaha. Seriously, go support another team.
Calm down ... He disagrees with your opinion of who we sign, so what?
 

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You're having a laugh if you think Grealish would become our best midfielder. He'd be a fantastic squad option though.
I'm very confident he would. He's more talented than Bruno, and his consistency gives him the edge over Pogba who is more talented.
 

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Why do people think Dortmund pick up the paper to gauge the sentiment of the party they're actually negotiating with? It's far more likely it's PR bluster to make the selling club look good, when we were probably willing to pay the 120 in the structure we choose. Everyone comes out a winner, as per all the other transfers. Everyone says we got robbed blind and we end up getting the player we want in a structured deal we can afford.
 

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Yeah I asked the same last night, don’t see the point.
It depends what we're actually arguing over, if it's the fee itself or how the entire deal is structured. Maybe we're looking at bringing other players in, so we want to structure the Sancho deal in a best possible way for us to be able to finance the other signings.

We might not actually be arguing over anything at all, could be about PR
 

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This is all about creating some media buzz before the unveiling on Friday. New number 7 on the 7th. It's perfect. I'm sure the media guys are working hard on producing some good content as we speak.
 
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