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Better player: Lingard or Cleverley
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik and Imran hold a long overdue conversation about United's awful league form with 1 win in 7. They discuss a disappointing draw at Bournemouth, a not so disappointing draw against Liverpool and a crushing defeat at Chelsea - Is time nearly over for Erik Ten Hag?
Then in a special second half of the pod, Nik welcomes Natalie ( https://twitter.com/natalie_17) to discuss the fortunes of Manchester United Women as they booked a place in the FA Cup Final after a historic first ever win vs. Chelsea.
Even if you combined the footballing ability of both, you would not get a premier league player, let alone, a united player.
Obviously Lingard.
Have to hold the cone under the dogs arse while he fills it for ya apparently. But yeah that was the choice I went with too eventually. Fat bastard
All I remember from cleverley was him playing a short pass before running into a position where he couldn't receive the ball.
Tough one. Lingard is probably in the 2nd best spell of his Utd career right now. Timing of this debate is harsh on Cleverley.
Cleverley was useful, borderline decent in a dominant side with better players around him. I guess we will see over the coming season if Lingard can better that.
In a struggling side, there is no worse player than Cleverley. None.
In a struggling side, there is no worse player than Cleverley. None.
I'd go with Cleverley given he was part of a title winning team. And played regularly. I'm comparing 2012 Cleverley to Lingard btw, not current Cleverley, who is debatable Championship level.
However, in terms of magical disappearing acts on the pitch, Lingard is King. That cloak of invisibility works wonders.
However, in terms of magical disappearing acts on the pitch, Lingard is King. That cloak of invisibility works wonders.
Lingard does a fair amount of that but we call it movement now
You did say Cleverley was easily the better footballer.I didn't say Cleverley was easily better, I said they are both Watford-bench-warming standard. There is objectively nothing that Lingard is better at on a football pitch than Cleverley.
When we're done with this utterly redundant poll can the next one be to see if James is less shit than Obertan?
But yes we can do James vs Obertan next. My money is on James for that one
How dare you defile the name! Cleverley doesn't belong in the same bring as Lingardinho!
Lingard scored the winner in an FA Cup final.
Lingard is a far better player
It's like asking me, what do you want to lose, your left or your right ball. 
Clevelingard
Lingard by far.
This season has been rotten for Jesse but he had his good moments for us and at times it looked like he could be a squad player for the team...TC23 was never good enough imo.
Cleverly
Cleverley
Cleverley was a regular in one of the top teams of Europe. He had a decent talent but not the mentality.
Lingard was a regular in a team that wouldn't finish in the top 4. Truth is that if we were not stupid he would be a squad player in Aston Villa. Awful player, stealing a living.
Lingard was a regular in a team that wouldn't finish in the top 4. Truth is that if we were not stupid he would be a squad player in Aston Villa. Awful player, stealing a living.
I make it Lingard has had just over 62% share of the voting so far.
Closer than I thought it would be tbh.
Closer than I thought it would be tbh.
Ah lads how is this even a question. Lingard obviously.
Gets my vote
Lingard but I can't think of 2 worse players to compare. Both are nothing players but at least Lingard will have few goals he'll be proud of.
Both are nothing players but at least Lingard will have few goals he'll be proud of.That's just mean..
Stupid comparison anyway but obviously Lingard.
We should be thankful to be given a life where we could see them both play. Both are legends in their own regards.
Cleverley the best midfielder of his generation, one of the best ManUtd midfielder academy products since Paul Scholes and Lingard the best attacking midfielder the world has ever seen since Ronaldinho when he still played there.
Cleverley the best midfielder of his generation, one of the best ManUtd midfielder academy products since Paul Scholes and Lingard the best attacking midfielder the world has ever seen since Ronaldinho when he still played there.
Cleverly. He's flushed easily.
Took the step down without too much fuzz.
Took the step down without too much fuzz.
Cleverley looked top notch for the first 3 months, but looked like he had another few levels to go too. It then became evident that wasn't the case and he regressed massively. Lingard has been a decent player at times for us, we have had to rely on him as a starter though which I don't think a team like United should be doing. Squad player at best.
Oh look another Lingard thread.....
People are obsessed with bashing him.
A guy who btw has won us a FA Cup trophy.
There’s a reason to why you mostly see (compared to our rivals) our own players getting ridiculed on social media (Jones, Lingard etc.)
Even though there are worse players in the other clubs.
People are obsessed with bashing him.
A guy who btw has won us a FA Cup trophy.
There’s a reason to why you mostly see (compared to our rivals) our own players getting ridiculed on social media (Jones, Lingard etc.)
Even though there are worse players in the other clubs.
Lingard clearly.
Lingard bay far.
Depends on the rest of their careers I'd say. At this rate Lingard could well drop down a league or two.
Add in welbeck.
Lingard has a better shot for sure.I didn't say Cleverley was easily better, I said they are both Watford-bench-warming standard. There is objectively nothing that Lingard is better at on a football pitch than Cleverley.
When we're done with this utterly redundant poll can the next one be to see if James is less shit than Obertan?
It's a close call, Cleverley for all the shit he got had few decent games too and he was compared against players like Carrick, Scholes. Whereas Lingard was compared with inferior teammates.
Maybe if people started using stats like they do now, maybe Cleverley would have been rated higher averaging around
2.3 tackles per 90 mins
1-1.5 interceptions
1.5 key passes
But we have watched him every min and it was clear to see he was just sideways passing merchant.
Maybe if people started using stats like they do now, maybe Cleverley would have been rated higher averaging around
2.3 tackles per 90 mins
1-1.5 interceptions
1.5 key passes
But we have watched him every min and it was clear to see he was just sideways passing merchant.
I think Welbeck was part of that discussion OP mentioned. So...
1. Welbeck
2. Lingard
3. Cleverley
1. Welbeck
2. Lingard
3. Cleverley
Anderson was prime Ronaldinho for these two.
Lingard and it's not even close. Cleverly was a joke bar 7 games and even then, he wasn't amazing
It's not even close. Lingard by far