Dean Henderson has to be our #1 next season? Poll added

Who should be our first choice GK next season?


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DCP

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I like Henderson, he’s had a good season. But I get Foster vibes from the whole situation.
 

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We should 100% be starting next season with either Henderson or Romero as out number 1. They should get 10 games, if they are performing then they should keep their place.

De Gea can either leaver on loan or sit on the bench and hope for a chance of his shirt back.

I love De Gea and he's been brilliant for us but nobody can play regardless of form. it reminds me of when Rooney was playing every week. We became a better team as soon as we finally dropped him.
 
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We should 100% be starting next season with either Henderson or Romero as out number 1. They should get 10 games, if they are performing then they should keep their place.

De Gea can either leaver on loan or sit on the bench and hope for a chance of his shirt back.

I love De Gea and he's been brilliant for us but nobody can play regardless of form. it reminds me of when Rooney was playing every week. We became a better team as soon as we finally dropped him.
Romero should not be/ and won’t be given an opportunity to be no 1.

Tough choice what to do with Henderson.
 

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49% Henderson. How many have seriously watched him this season to come to that conclusion? Very few I’d suggest. He’s been fine but he hasn’t pulled up any trees.
 

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49% Henderson. How many have seriously watched him this season to come to that conclusion? Very few I’d suggest. He’s been fine but he hasn’t pulled up any trees.
He was in my fantasy team all season, does that count?
I know what you mean though. Just think DDG needs taking out the firing line for a while. Season break might do him good.
 

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49% Henderson. How many have seriously watched him this season to come to that conclusion? Very few I’d suggest. He’s been fine but he hasn’t pulled up any trees.
Which is exactly what you want from a keeper and what we've lost with DDG, consistency and boring performances. He's made a couple of errors I can think of but you can't say he hasn't been impressive.

DDG isn't having a bad run of games, he's having a 2 year (and counting) dip in form. If Henderson is not the answer, we should be in the market and not hoping DDG suddenly returns to his pre WC 2018 levels.
 

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49% Henderson. How many have seriously watched him this season to come to that conclusion? Very few I’d suggest. He’s been fine but he hasn’t pulled up any trees.
Obviously Henderson‘s not been watched as much, but he’s still a Utd player and as such people do keep an eye on him.

And enough to realise he (Henderson) makes nowhere near the amount of feck up‘s as De Gea ...so not really a difficult choice.
 

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He was in my fantasy team all season, does that count?
I know what you mean though. Just think DDG needs taking out the firing line for a while. Season break might do him good.
That does! I think he has good attributes and could well be a good all-rounder, but that a lot of people may be simply going “anyone but DeGea”, which, well, careful what you wish for.

English keepers have flattered to deceive with spells of good form at a young age. As DCP reminded me, Foster was eaten up at Man Utd, and Hart and Pickford are other examples of very promising young keepers really falling off when having to do it regularly.

The jury is out for me but I would certainly give DeGea next season as undisputed number one. I don’t think having an unclear hierarchy of keepers at United would be good for anyone, keeper is such a hard position mentally anyway!
 

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49% Henderson. How many have seriously watched him this season to come to that conclusion? Very few I’d suggest. He’s been fine but he hasn’t pulled up any trees.
It makes me laugh this Henderson chat. What would fans say if United signed Pickford? Because Henderson is no better than Pickford so I don't know where people see him as a saviour. Let's not get carried away here and follow the media narrative which will always promote the English players. If we are replacing De Gea, only Oblak can fill his boots. I also think De Gea deserves more respect from United fans.I am genuinely convinced that if it wasn't for De Gea, United would have been relegated at least once in the past 7 years.
 

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That does! I think he has good attributes and could well be a good all-rounder, but that a lot of people may be simply going “anyone but DeGea”, which, well, careful what you wish for.

English keepers have flattered to deceive with spells of good form at a young age. As DCP reminded me, Foster was eaten up at Man Utd, and Hart and Pickford are other examples of very promising young keepers really falling off when having to do it regularly.

The jury is out for me but I would certainly give DeGea next season as undisputed number one. I don’t think having an unclear hierarchy of keepers at United would be good for anyone, keeper is such a hard position mentally anyway!
Very true about the English keepers. Be good to have Henderson back with us and getting a chance though.
 

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Sheffield is currently looking for a new number 1. Surely this means Henderson is coming back?
Yes, in the news that Bournemouth have turned down an offer from Sheffield Utd for Ramsdale, which suggests Dean is coming back, unless Ramsdale was intended as Sheffield's backup keeper (he was the youngest keeper in the EPL last season) with the intention of replacing Dean in 2021/22 season.
 

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Yes, in the news that Bournemouth have turned down an offer from Sheffield Utd for Ramsdale, which suggests Dean is coming back, unless Ramsdale was intended as Sheffield's backup keeper (he was the youngest keeper in the EPL last season) with the intention of replacing Dean in 2021/22 season.
Don't think they have the kind of money to have Ramsdale as a back up. Surely, he's going to be first choice if they manage to sign him. I would rather, Henderson spend another season on loan at any other PL club if Sheffield United ain't taking him back. De Gea's feck ups don't mean that Henderson is ready yet. He made many blunders of his own away from the spotlight of being United's keeper.
 

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I'd find this a strange move unless we plan on selling Henderson. I guess it would give us more options next summer if Henderson is out on loan, but it seems like overkill.
 

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That does! I think he has good attributes and could well be a good all-rounder, but that a lot of people may be simply going “anyone but DeGea”, which, well, careful what you wish for.

English keepers have flattered to deceive with spells of good form at a young age. As DCP reminded me, Foster was eaten up at Man Utd, and Hart and Pickford are other examples of very promising young keepers really falling off when having to do it regularly.

The jury is out for me but I would certainly give DeGea next season as undisputed number one. I don’t think having an unclear hierarchy of keepers at United would be good for anyone, keeper is such a hard position mentally anyway!
How about Spanish keepers? They look good for a bit and suddenly fall off a cliff. Cassilas, DDG and Kepa all did that. If nationality is a valid way to judge an individual, that proves De Gea needs to be moved on.
 

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Don't think they have the kind of money to have Ramsdale as a back up. Surely, he's going to be first choice if they manage to sign him. I would rather, Henderson spend another season on loan at any other PL club if Sheffield United ain't taking him back. De Gea's feck ups don't mean that Henderson is ready yet. He made many blunders of his own away from the spotlight of being United's keeper.
Yes, I think more likely that Ramsdale was intended as first choice, although a transition would make sense given Ramsdale's age, but as you say, they probably need to spend their cash elsewhere. It would be unusual anyway for an EPL club to constantly have a loan player in a key position in the side, they do need to resolve it.
I agree that too many people are getting in a lather about Dean v DDG - I have high regard for Dean, but we're not playing the same football as Sheffield Utd and it would be too big a step-up at this stage, particularly if we're facing top sides in ECL.
 

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I'd find this a strange move unless we plan on selling Henderson. I guess it would give us more options next summer if Henderson is out on loan, but it seems like overkill.
It would be strange, unless there's something about this guy we haven't spotted. Suspect this is another piece of media invention.
 

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We are in for Schmiechel if the papers are to be believed. For whatever reason I think he goes a bit under the radar when keepers are discussed. Maybe it’s because he can’t quite reach the standard set by his dad but when you analyse it he’s a very solid PL keeper season after season.

If we are to replace DDG then Schmiechel in, Henderson out on loan for another year and Romero as back up isn’t the worst business we could do. I just get the feeling Ole isn’t quite convinced Henderson can make the step up in expectation right now. I don’t think we’d stand a chance of getting Schmiechel as a number two but the guarantee of a season as first choice and then battle it out with Henderson the season later would probably get him.
Can't help thinking that the Schmeichel story is just journalists thinking it would be, well, a good story. Don't think Ole would go down that route just because his dad was a legend here, and although he's a good keeper, I don't see what he offers over DDG and Dean. I think Ole will stick with DDG and sees Dean as his replacement at some point but not yet.
 

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It makes me laugh this Henderson chat. What would fans say if United signed Pickford? Because Henderson is no better than Pickford so I don't know where people see him as a saviour. Let's not get carried away here and follow the media narrative which will always promote the English players. If we are replacing De Gea, only Oblak can fill his boots. I also think De Gea deserves more respect from United fans.I am genuinely convinced that if it wasn't for De Gea, United would have been relegated at least once in the past 7 years.
This is just wrong. Pickford clearly hasn't been as good as Henderson. Pope would have been a better comparison, albeit Pope has been slightly better.
 

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It makes me laugh this Henderson chat. What would fans say if United signed Pickford? Because Henderson is no better than Pickford so I don't know where people see him as a saviour. Let's not get carried away here and follow the media narrative which will always promote the English players. If we are replacing De Gea, only Oblak can fill his boots. I also think De Gea deserves more respect from United fans.I am genuinely convinced that if it wasn't for De Gea, United would have been relegated at least once in the past 7 years.
That's not the same thing at all.

Henderson is a Manchester United player. A better comparison would be fans saying that Romero should be picked instead of De Gea. Without any further transfers, it's between those three. And on current form, Henderson is leading the pack.
 

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I'd find this a strange move unless we plan on selling Henderson. I guess it would give us more options next summer if Henderson is out on loan, but it seems like overkill.
If true I think he’s more likely going to be Romero’s replacement.
 

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How about Spanish keepers? They look good for a bit and suddenly fall off a cliff. Cassilas, DDG and Kepa all did that. If nationality is a valid way to judge an individual, that proves De Gea needs to be moved on.
I realised as I was writing it that this maybe wasn’t the best connection between players. I just feel his nationality is part of the hype, I keep seeing people saying “He’ll be England’s number one before long” when he currently isn’t, it all seems based on performances he isn’t currently producing. For that, in fact, you could throw in Kepa, that was all hype, he’s a baby with a good agent.

And that’s before we consider De Gea has definitely done it before and is still a good age and could do it again. I’d like to see Henderson confirm his quality elsewhere with a better season than this one, and as I said give De Gea the season behind a more dominant team and developing defence. If a decision then needs to be made so be it, but it shouldn’t be binary between those two alone.
 

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Ole's publicly backed De Gea on several occasions, can't see him being dropped for the start of next season.

It'll be interesting to see how long he lasts if his howlers continue; it took Ole ages to drop Lingard and James.
 

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Hope he signs an extension with a massive payrise. It would mean that the club plans with him to some extent, even if he gets loaned out next season.
 

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We are in for Schmiechel if the papers are to be believed. For whatever reason I think he goes a bit under the radar when keepers are discussed. Maybe it’s because he can’t quite reach the standard set by his dad but when you analyse it he’s a very solid PL keeper season after season.

If we are to replace DDG then Schmiechel in, Henderson out on loan for another year and Romero as back up isn’t the worst business we could do. I just get the feeling Ole isn’t quite convinced Henderson can make the step up in expectation right now. I don’t think we’d stand a chance of getting Schmiechel as a number two but the guarantee of a season as first choice and then battle it out with Henderson the season later would probably get him.
I actually think Schmeichel has been the best all-round keeper in the league for quite a few years now. He's not amazing at anything, but he's solid at everything and doesn't really have a weakness. In that sense he's more like VDS than his old man (although he's not as good as either). It's strange because I didn't rate him at all when he was younger, thought he was one of the kids just living off his father's name. The years in the Championship were very good to him.

If he were a few years younger and we didn't have Henderson coming through who we probably should give a chance to, I'd love to take him. Unfortunately I have a feeling he's dropped away a bit this season and been making more errors than previously.
 

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It’s interesting that Sheffield United have made two bids for two good goalkeepers. It seems to suggest Henderson will be coming back, surely?
 

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I realised as I was writing it that this maybe wasn’t the best connection between players. I just feel his nationality is part of the hype, I keep seeing people saying “He’ll be England’s number one before long” when he currently isn’t, it all seems based on performances he isn’t currently producing. For that, in fact, you could throw in Kepa, that was all hype, he’s a baby with a good agent.

And that’s before we consider De Gea has definitely done it before and is still a good age and could do it again. I’d like to see Henderson confirm his quality elsewhere with a better season than this one, and as I said give De Gea the season behind a more dominant team and developing defence. If a decision then needs to be made so be it, but it shouldn’t be binary between those two alone.
How many games have you seriously watched Henderson this season to come to this conclusion?
 

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I'd find this a strange move unless we plan on selling Henderson. I guess it would give us more options next summer if Henderson is out on loan, but it seems like overkill.
Another GK? Probably the least impactful way to spend our limited transfer budget.
 

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Another GK? Probably the least impactful way to spend our limited transfer budget.
i like how you say "limited" as to not insinuate that even if our budget has its limits, its one of the handful of largest transfer budgets in football.
 

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Ole's publicly backed De Gea on several occasions, can't see him being dropped for the start of next season.
Ole has also said Sanchez will prove a lot of doubters wrong when he returns here next season.

He always back his players publicly so I wouldn't pay too much attention to what he said in the press.
 
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Ole has also said Sanchez will prove a lot of doubters wrong when he returns here next season.

He always back his players publicly so I wouldn't pay too much attention to what he said in the press.
Indeed, and he’s also said Henderson will be England and United’s no 1 - we just don’t know when.

Mind you, Fergie said Jones was as good as Duncan Edwards!!
 

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Ole has also said Sanchez will prove a lot of doubters wrong when he returns here next season.

He always back his players publicly so I wouldn't pay too much attention to what he said in the press.
It's not just what Ole said, but also what he actually did. He had been consistent in the de Gea matter. When he made howlers after howlers last season, Ole chose to stick with him (which costed us the CL spot) and decided to give him a ridiculous contract. He didn't drop him this season for his errors either.
 

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De Gea for next year-- if he is still faltering, then he loses his job to Romero and we bring in a replacement (Henderson or other,) for 2021-2022.

For all the grief De Gea gets, and some of it is deserved-- Henderson has had a few howlers this year. He let one go through his legs vs Liverpool for the only goal of the game. Imagine if he was @ United and United lost 1-0 to Pool on a howler. Some on the Caf would be out with pitchforks. Who knows how Henderson would react to the pressure here @ United. Another year of EPL experience will be good for him.

IDK. van der Sar spent a couple of years in Juventus and made quite a few mistakes as Juve finished 2nd in back to back years. He was gone-- and recovered nicely @ Fulham and then United. Maybe De Gea can do the same and rebound after a couple of average seasons. Lloris was bad in 2018 and recovered nicely the past 2 years. I guess I'm blindly optimistic, but in my mind, De Gea gets another year to sort it out, or be gone. BC in 2021-2022, I want United to be competing for the title, and they can't do that if De Gea is average.

Besides-- no one will want to sign De Gea. His wages are astronomical (Thanks Ed,) and no one will pay a fee. Better bet to just hope he turns it around this year and then re-evaluate. He's definitely on a short leash though.
 

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Mind you, Fergie said Jones was as good as Duncan Edwards!!
Tbf he was drunk off his final title and said he had the potential to be as good as Edwards - still a crazy claim, but we'll forgive him for that one :D

It's not just what Ole said, but also what he actually did. He had been consistent in the de Gea matter. When he made howlers after howlers last season, Ole chose to stick with him (which costed us the CL spot) and decided to give him a ridiculous contract. He didn't drop him this season for his errors either.
Yeah, this is what I'm worried about - he took ages to drop Lingard and James, he leans towards his favourites.
 

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It's not just what Ole said, but also what he actually did. He had been consistent in the de Gea matter. When he made howlers after howlers last season, Ole chose to stick with him (which costed us the CL spot) and decided to give him a ridiculous contract. He didn't drop him this season for his errors either.
He has also backed Lingard and didn't drop him either until Bruno arrived.

Ole is ruthless, if he can bring in a better player than he will get rid as he has shown during his short tenure so far.
 

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Romero's contract ends June 2021, but there looks to be a club option. So rumors of another GK are valid and good to know.

Henderson shouldn't be number 1 this coming season because he deserves a clear and fair chance to have an uninterrupted season so he can compete for the England no 1 position versus Pickford and Pope. Those two keepers are clear number 1s for their respective clubs and can go about their business week in week out without the all distractions.

Again, Henderson plays for Sheffield and DDG plays for United during the 20/21 PL season. Let's see where they are at come Euro 2021 and then the decision will be made that DDG and Henderson are 1A/1B, Romero's out of the picture and the transition from DDG to Henderson begins. But United are looking for a backup GK to compete with Henderson as DDG is phased out.

Henderson is the future, but not until after Euro 2021.
 

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Leaving De Gea on the bench next season would be utter disrespect to a player of his stature. Even loaning him would be a bad move. I would rather start or sell him.
 

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He has also backed Lingard and didn't drop him either until Bruno arrived.

Ole is ruthless, if he can bring in a better player than he will get rid as he has shown during his short tenure so far.
This just indicates Ole is not ruthless enough.
 

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This just indicates Ole is not ruthless enough.
No - this indicates he didn't have a player capable doing a better job at the time.

Have you been living under a rock over the past 12 months with the players he's got rid of?
 

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Its better for the club if we have the two of them here next season.
Anything else is just overthinking it
 
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No - this indicates he didn't have a player capable doing a better job at the time.

Have you been living under a rock over the past 12 months with the players he's got rid of?
Exactly.

Lukaku, Darmian, Fellaini, Sanchez, Young, Valencia (Rojo and Smalling on loan) all say hi.

I’m sure there are others, that’s just off the top of my head, but that’s a hell of a cull in 18 months. Granted, I’d keep Smalling, but none of them are missed one bit.

OGS is ruthless - and about bloody time.