Most consistent forwards in the league 19/20

Pretty impressive especially in light of the fact that Rashford and Martiall played over have a season without a competent attacking or creative central midfielder and limited fullback support. Basically, they had the roll their own until Bruno came.

I read article after article with pundits and ex-Man Utd players pronouncing the club's need to get a 25 goal per year striker. They already have two with Greenwood a third if he gets to play full-time. Why they would spend the bulk of their transfer money strengthening the strongest part of the team while ignoring weaknesses in playing the ball out of defensive mid-field and central defense is beyond me. It looks like the Glazers are calling the shots.

I mean.. it's not their scoring nor assisting consistencies that are the problems.

It never has, Martial is always more consistent than Rashford (minus Rash's penalties and look at previous season performances per mins played, then we'll see it clearly).

It's their all-around performances consistency that is a problem at times. In a game, they can just be useless contributing nothing. That's normal though, many players even the best can have that kind of games. We fans tend to be more critical of our players and see other players as better, that's too common here. Grass is always greener on the other side?

Web of Bissaka said:

It's their all-around performances consistency that is a problem at times. In a game, they can just be useless contributing nothing. That's normal though, many players even the best can have that kind of games. We fans tend to be more critical of our players and see other players as better, that's too common here. Grass is always greener on the other side?

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This is true. It's undeniable that they have blown hot and cold, but hopefully that's coming to an end now.

The other standout is Aguero. No matter how often he plays or how old he gets, he is always up at the top of these lists. Best out and out striker the league has seen imo.

I thought Auba and Vardy would be higher. Impressive from Ings.

Web of Bissaka said:

I mean.. it's not their scoring nor assisting consistencies that are the problems.

It never has, Martial is always more consistent than Rashford (minus Rash's penalties and look at previous season performances per mins played, then we'll see it clearly).

It's their all-around performances consistency that is a problem at times. In a game, they can just be useless contributing nothing. That's normal though, many players even the best can have that kind of games. We fans tend to be more critical of our players and see other players as better, that's too common here. Grass is always greener on the other side?

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I feel this is happening less and less though. Both Martial and Rashford have contributed in more phases of play this season imo, with Martial especially improving his work rate, pressing, running the channels and runs in behind, his hold up play is also noticeably better.

I feel like Rashford contributes more in our build up, and has added an extra creative edge to his game. You're completely right thought that previously, both Rashford and Martial could ghost through games, and not contribute at all when they're not particularly playing well. But do you feel like, especially since the restart, this has happened less and less?

Moreso, we're not so reliant on them anymore. You always feel if for example, Rashford is having an off day, Martial or Greenwood will step up, or Bruno. Takes a lot of the pressure off them as individuals, and they're better for it in terms of contribution to the team.

11101 said:

This is true. It's undeniable that they have blown hot and cold, but hopefully that's coming to an end now.

The other standout is Aguero. No matter how often he plays or how old he gets, he is always up at the top of these lists. Best out and out striker the league has seen imo.

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Not better than Shearer. Shearer never has the players around him that Aguero has had. Great player though.

Expected Jiminez to be pretty much top of this. Ridiculously consistent

Problem with the Caf has always been the fact that they don't watch other teams players consistently and often see them through highlights. The Caf has also has a tendency to wait for a narrative be created for them then embrace it.

The Caf sees our players have some average/off games in between and they go on hyperbole how average our players are and then point to other teams players as example of what top consistent players should be about, but in reality they have no clue of how those players actually fair throughout an entire season, not just the highlight moments shown on TV and narratives driven by pundits.

This is why one would still here cries from certain Caftards about Kane and the likes over Martial when the latter has had a better and ore consistent season than the former while also being on the up, heading toward his prime while the same can't exactly be said about Kane.

Paul_Scholes18 said:

I thought Auba and Vardy would be higher. Impressive from Ings.

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Auba spent almost half a season under Emery, when the team was in its worst phase since the pre-Wenger days. I think he scored only five goals in that phase. He’s been much more consistent under Arteta, which explains the consistency numbers.

Our attackers have been just as consistent as any one else in the epl this season. It’s about time we end that narrative about them being inconsistent.

This thread is relevant to my (fpl) interests.

No real surprises in there and I do agree with the poster that said we underate our own. Jimenez, Auba, Vardy and Ings are so important to their respective teams. None of them are easily replaceable if injured.

Also no surprise that the top clubs have 2/3 players in the list. No Chelsea players is interesting. I bet Hazard would've made that list previously.

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Not better than Shearer. Shearer never has the players around him that Aguero has had. Great player though.

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I'd rather pay to watch Aguero than Shearer but that's just me

E-mal said:

I'd rather pay to watch Aguero than Shearer but that's just me

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In all my time watching Utd, there have only been a handful of strikers that I’ve truly been anxious about playing against, in no particular order Henry, Shearer, Fat Ronaldo and Messi. Aguero is a fantastic player, but Shearer was and still is the best striker the PL has seen.

Web of Bissaka said:

I mean.. it's not their scoring nor assisting consistencies that are the problems.

It never has, Martial is always more consistent than Rashford (minus Rash's penalties and look at previous season performances per mins played, then we'll see it clearly).

It's their all-around performances consistency that is a problem at times. In a game, they can just be useless contributing nothing. That's normal though, many players even the best can have that kind of games. We fans tend to be more critical of our players and see other players as better, that's too common here. Grass is always greener on the other side?

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The table speaks itself. KDB is not exactly a striker, minus him, and Aguero, Mane and Salah, who are either too old or never going to sell, who are the most lethal attackers? Ours and Ings. Do you think adding Vardy or Ings is going to improve our scoring rate? No, improving the assist, chance creating, and cutting out the errors, will.

Improving the assist is obvious, get our fullback to make better cross into the box, which has been our weakest section. Just get someone to teach them how to make cross, is it that difficult? If we can't find anyone inside the Academy who knows a thing or 2 about crossing, how about getting Gary to coach them for a few hours?

I never speak against Sancho because he is a good assist provider apart from scoring, if found too expensive, find someone cheaper, or even Willian. James is never going to provide the assist that you need. But I would say working on the fullback is the cheapest solution.

For a striker who 'can only be replaced by Messi' and 'is more important than Mane and Salah', I am surprised that Firmino didn't even make the list. Must have like 15-20%.

ClaytonBlackmoorLeftPeg said:

In all my time watching Utd, there have only been a handful of strikers that I’ve truly been anxious about playing against, in no particular order Henry, Shearer, Fat Ronaldo and Messi. Aguero is a fantastic player, but Shearer was and still is the best striker the PL has seen.

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Shearer ahead of Henry? Why?

Aguero has terrorized United many times. He has a better record than the other two (9 goals from 16 matches compared to Henry’s 9 from 23 and Shearer’s 10 from 30). He also (in the league) won more matches than lost against United.

Essentially you being scared less from him than from Henry/Shearer is not extremely relevant. Aguero has been lethal against us.

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Expected Jiminez to be pretty much top of this. Ridiculously consistent

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Martial is higher up than him though, and then someone here telling me Jimenez is more consistent and we should replace Martial with him.

Revan said:

Aguero has terrorized United many times. He has a better record than the other two (9 goals from 16 matches compared to Henry’s 9 from 23 and Shearer’s 10 from 30). He also (in the league) won more matches than lost against United.

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To be fair, Aguero spent most of his PL career playing against a much weaker Manchester United than Henry and Shearer did.

I’d be interested to see this same chart minus penalties. Martial will feature even higher potentially.

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But do you feel like, especially since the restart, this has happened less and less?

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Yes absolutely both of 'em have improved massively in their all-around game.

Definitely more consistent now. Even if they have off games, they still contributed to our play. Rashford for example in this restart have been criticized for not scoring more, but I'm fine with that because he's always involved in out possession play and build-up attacks in the final third. Martial similarly have been criticized in games where he didn't score, and yet his presence is felt because he contributed a lot creatively in our play in the final third, this is becoming more and more known thankfully.

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Shearer ahead of Henry? Why?

Aguero has terrorized United many times. He has a better record than the other two (9 goals from 16 matches compared to Henry’s 9 from 23 and Shearer’s 10 from 30). He also (in the league) won more matches than lost against United.

Essentially you being scared less from him than from Henry/Shearer is not extremely relevant. Aguero has been lethal against us.

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Aguero was playing on a vastly superior team.

I expect those figures (for Shearer) are skewed by his appearances after he was 30, and injuries took their toll on him physically.

ClaytonBlackmoorLeftPeg said:

Not better than Shearer. Shearer never has the players around him that Aguero has had. Great player though.

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I disagree. Shearer had teams built entirely around facilitating him scoring goals, and his longevity is a big factor in his reputation. Having watched them both their entire careers I'd rather have Aguero, but you wouldn't go far wrong with either.