How long will Liverpool's dominance last?

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There was similar talk with City and Pep. I dont see any team dominating for years. There will be up there this year but dominance, nah. Especially since they havent strenghten this year.
 

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@Paul_Scholes18 you made a couple of good points in the Jose thread.

if you look at the first team, there are not the players to step in. For example if they lost VDK and Trent / both they would lose there main play which is VDK to Trent and cross. MOT2 did a good bit on this at the end and think I Liverpoo turned them over in the final 3rd 17 times.

If that was Pogba in that quarterback role and our forwards playing the same tactics I think we would have took them to pieces.

It’s well worth the watch
 

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I really despise this Liverpool team. I never liked them anyway, but when they had Suarez, Gerrard, Sterling, Sturridge. They were at least some loveable losers with some character as Rodgers would say. Maybe its because they won something. But going back to the Riise, Carragher, Alonso, Kewell, Benitez days. At least there was something there. This squad is so devout of any personality. With that annoying "heavy metal" thundercnut as manager. Dude legit looks minutes from a meltdown(like im doing now) for years. But keeps winning somehow. This year they will luckily revert back to the norm and I can't wait too see those yellow teeth rant about referees. Don't even talk to me about Salah, everybody who likes that whiny cnut is a moron.

In short feck Liverpool and we're not going to end behind them in the league
We haven't played a game yet
 

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Actually that transfer window was really genius. They were at god's level before Corona break and came back as a solid team after the break. Now they just added some young promising talents to the squad and that's basically it. I believe that puts away lots of pressure from the team and is economically effictive as well plus opens a door for young promising talents choosing Liverpool (instead of Dortmund e.g.).
 

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So... how long will it last? I need the nightmare to end soon. :(
I think the dominance ended just before the Covid break.
In one year time, most of their top players will either be past or very close to 30 years. The cycle will go bust soon.
 

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I think only this season and that's it. And Klopp will leave in '22 or '23.
 

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Actually that transfer window was really genius. They were at god's level before Corona break and came back as a solid team after the break. Now they just added some young promising talents to the squad and that's basically it. I believe that puts away lots of pressure from the team and is economically effictive as well plus opens a door for young promising talents choosing Liverpool (instead of Dortmund e.g.).
I can count there talents making it to the frist team from youth on one hand, same with City. If you want to play on the EPL for a top team and your young we are the number one place. If you want to be used as an asset to make money off to Dortmund with ya.
 

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I don't think any team will dominate the premiership now. It used to happen but not anymore. There will be a new name on the trophy every other year now. When the bar is raised other clubs will bring in the top players and pay more. Chelsea and City have the money to match anyone.
 

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I think the dominance ended just before the Covid break.
In one year time, most of their top players will either be past or very close to 30 years. The cycle will go bust soon.
still persisting with this magical 30 when players suddenly turn trash? Players nowadays perform well into their 30s. Could easily see another 4 prime seasons from Bobby Firmino, Salah and Mane. They are all 28. you lot acting like they are approaching 40
I think only this season and that's it. And Klopp will leave in '22 or '23.
:lol: Klopptimistic
 
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still persisting with this magical 30 when players suddenly turn trash? Players nowadays perform well into their 30s. Could easily see another 4 prime seasons from Bobby Firmino, Salah and Mane. They are all 28. you lot acting like they are approaching 40


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5 different champions in the past 8 years. All the evidence shows that teams don’t dominate like they used to. The same applies to Liverpool.

When Utd dominated the PL, there was usually only one other strong team. Be that Blackburn, Newcastle, Arsenal, City or Chelsea. But you didn’t have 3,4,5 teams all building a title challenging team at the same time, like you do now.
 

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still persisting with this magical 30 when players suddenly turn trash? Players nowadays perform well into their 30s. Could easily see another 4 prime seasons from Bobby Firmino, Salah and Mane.
Yes, that is the magical number when players start declining. In fact, most elite footballers start declining even earlier.

You talk as if players like Bale, and Rooney at United, and Kante (29), and Countinho (28), and Aguero for a few years already (32), Thiago (29), Kroos (30), David de Gea (29), James Rodriguez (29), Cesar Azpilicueta since last year (31) and tons of others are from a different generation.

Some players age earlier than others. Some players like Ronaldo and Messi are still world-class in their mid-30s, but that is because their peak (ceiling) was infinitesimally higher than that of an average footballer. And by the way, both declined after they passed their 30s.

Salah and Mane may still have 4 years of top football, but that doesn't mean they won't have declined in 4 years from their current peaks (or of last few years).
 

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I would love it if someone could come up with a little study to examine the most productive years of attacking footballers of the modern generation. My guess is a five-year period from 24 to 28 years - the perfect balance of speed, experience, strength/physique, confidence, positioning-sense, and skill. There are always exceptions though.
 

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I would love it if someone could come up with a little study to examine the most productive years of attacking footballers of the modern generation. My guess is a five-year period from 24 to 28 years - the perfect balance of speed, experience, strength/physique, confidence, positioning-sense, and skill. There are always exceptions though.
Your guess is pretty good. I can't find a link but Ted Knutson from Statsbomb has looked at this in depth and found that there is a broad peak between 23-28 and even narrower elite peak between 24-26. Those are population averages so there are always exceptions and players who extend elite play beyond 28.
 

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Should end this year. They do look more open in defense. When Salah and Mane have bad days or gets injured they will struggle.
They might still win it, but it will be a lot closer to multiple teams this year. Should include us too.
 

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It looks like they are gunna rack up 10 wins in a row again, and then after that be momentumly hard to beat... again

If anything their attack looks more motivated and sharper.
 
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I was telling to myself that they had their one season and that is that. But now i am worried. They decided to use this situation as much as it goes. They don't mess around with long long term projects. They think like Juve and Bayern. Lets put aside kids and add quality to this squad. We are happy with having first 11 and with home grown players on the bench. They sell their young players and buy proven quality for bench. While we will try to make from McT new dmc, they went for top player on the market. While we loan Ighalo and buy James they splash 45 mil for backup attacker. They rather buy player for Greece for backup full back than giving chance to young player.
If we are them i bet that Hoever and BrewSTAR would get 5 year contracts and would play 30 games this season.

They will be in top 2 next 2 or 3 years. Pool and City duo on top. fecking hell, can it be worse than that?
 

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There was similar talk with City and Pep. I dont see any team dominating for years. There will be up there this year but dominance, nah. Especially since they havent strenghten this year.
No team will be able to do that. You thought that Barca would be the top team forever, but not even they managed to stay on top. It’s up to other teams to catch up, but unfortunately, Liverpool will stay for a while imo
 

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They have the best man manager in the world. Aslong as he’s there they will win trophies.

it hurts but credit where it is due, they have one hell of a side right now. Thiago and jota very good signings too.
 

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So have we quit on the prediction that Liverpool are finished this season then?
Which idiots are predicting they are finished this season.?
They will walk the league and will be there or there abouts in the CL.
I said this before this season started.
You don't get 95+ points two seasons running and get to two CL finals in a row and fall off a cliff.

Of course It hurts. I hate them more than anyone. But no point doing it to yourself and hoping they are going to go away.
 

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Which idiots are predicting they are finished this season.?
They will walk the league and will be there or there abouts in the CL.
I said this before this season started.
You don't get 95+ points two seasons running and get to two CL finals in a row and fall off a cliff.

Of course It hurts. I hate them more than anyone. But no point doing it to yourself and hoping they are going to go away.
look through the thread. many suggested that last season was a one off because of XG, others said their hunger was gone, others believes their team is too old etc etc. One poor chap suggested we would finish above them this season
 

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If they keep buying Keita, Minamino and ,in my opinion, Jota type signings, they won't consolidate their position.
Sadly, if we don't improve our first 11 every window, it will be a bloody long time before we swap places with them.
 

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Totally dependant on how long Klopp hangs about, and really who is available to replace him when he leaves. Hopefully they go for sentimentality of ambition by hiring someone like Gerrard.

They've definitely got a season or two left in them as is, but their front three are all a similar age so could need replacing in a short period. That could be unsettling.

Mane looks like he's at the top of his game, and Salah not far off it too. The big question mark of the three right now is Firmino, and I expect Jota has been brought in to learn from him/assimilate into that false 9 role.
 

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With Thiago now on board, Liverpool could go on and win premiership and more trophies for next few years.
 

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A lot depends on Klopp, I think. We really struck gold with him and when he leaves, it'll be difficult for whoever takes over to even get close to repeating what he's done.

And also of course how long Mane and Salah stay at the top of their game. If Klopp leaves in 2024 as it appears he will, one could hope that he has found adequate replacements for those two.
 

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They're having a period like we did in 2007-11 with multiple CL Finals and title victories.

I'd say they're 3 years into it. It'll last 4 or 5 years.

Not to say they won't win another league title again after this boom period, but i don't think they'll dominate like now. These things go up and down.
 

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This is their season again. Can not see any team in the PL challenging them this season.
Proper Bundesliga standard this year in the PL.
 
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Winning the league once isn't dominance.

However, they have a great manager who could stay in the job many years if he wants to. The club appears to be investing while they are at the top so logically they will be challenging for the top honours for the next few years.

Beyond a couple of years it's too hard to predict, the variables are too much. Klopp could leave. Repleacements for their key forwards could flop. Rival teans could improve dramatically.
 

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Why do people think Manchester City can't chalenge Liverpool this year!? They were poor last season, they should be better this time. I still think they have better squad than Pool.
 

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Why do people think Manchester City can't chalenge Liverpool this year!? They were poor last season, they should be better this time. I still think they have better squad than Pool.
I don't think so. It takes usually a year for Pep's new signings to shine. Also, they are a Sterling injury away from creating or finishing enough offensive opportunities.
 

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If Klopp leaves at the end of his current contract that will be the end of that.

Though I don't expect them to dominate since Pep will surely not go another 3-4 years without winning another couple of titles