"No value in the market"My favourite line is "we can be the best at things that don't cost anything"
Solskjær press conference vs Crystal Palace (H)
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Come on. You really think United won't lose a game all season?
Losing tomorrow or in April will be the same point wise. But losing now would highlights the weakness of this team and get a chance to fix that.
But you can do feck all when the transfer window close
Even if we easily win tomorrow with our squad our first 11 will be scattered by Xmas after playing every game,
Not very reassuring alright , but to be fair to Ole he has made it clear that he thinks the squad needs more quality and depth added to it and he has communicated that to the board. If the board do not share his ambition he is not going to throw his toys out of the pram, he is just going to try and get on best he can with what he has.My favourite line is "we can be the best at things that don't cost anything"
The question is when that's the case, and we don't meet objectives of the season, what would be Ole's fate? Would he be sacked, or it's the case of having the excuse out early?
I meant it's part of the manager duties' to push the board for the investment to get the result. Or it's all about the manager interest to keep his job while compromising with the board AKA Wenger, Moyes at Everton. We're not at the position during SAF time for this no value bullshit. Even SAF burdened some blame for the bad planning for his retirement. His genius can hide all those cracks, but there is only one SAF.
Yes they can do what they want as long as a player is passed fit.
I call it as I see it, if Lampard or any Chelsea manager was trying this guff i'd call it the same way, though i've not demanded any resignations as far as i recall.
Losing the first game of the season would do nothing of that sort. Shocking that you are sticking with a comment, which was clearly made in frustration.
https://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/496...71/mourinho-spain-to-blame-for-costa-problems
https://www.firstpost.com/sports/pr...all-up-over-fitness-concerns-3975043.html/amp
Where were you? Did you call them out? How disappointed were you at Chelsea and their managers? Laying the blame on national teams?
let’s get this straight. We may not have the best of transfer season but our squad is still very strong. Of course we will not be winning the title this season and even with Sancho I doubt we will. Transfer or not top 4 is a must and we must be closer to the first, I.e. not 33 points behind. 10 points behind is and we take stock and progress again next season. Anything less is a failure and there is no excuse to save Ole.
Those quotes are big yikes. Beyond even admitting defeat for random players, but on investing pretty much anything at all. They're so damning it almost seems made up. Loan returning player like a new signing. Injured player new signing. Full season new signing.... brutal.
Brutal. The most telling one is that "we can be the best at things that don't cost anything".
That's a clear indication to the board that you need to do your part.
" We can be best at the things that don't cost anything. The culture here, the training, the coaching, getting fitter. "
Nasty quote. Basically Glazer propaganda. "Hey guys we dont care about challenging for titles any more. Ole's at the wheel to put on the spin and all we care about is top four. See ya suckers."
We don't have to be beaten on transfer by Spurs, City, Liverpool, Chelsea and Arsenal this summer window. All the top four rivals. We have vastly more capital and income than Spurs, Arsenal and Liverpool. But we are being beaten on numbers of signings and quality of signings. Badly. Why?
Nasty quote. Basically Glazer propaganda. "Hey guys we dont care about challenging for titles any more. Ole's at the wheel to put on the spin and all we care about is top four. See ya suckers."
We don't have to be beaten on transfer by Spurs, City, Liverpool, Chelsea and Arsenal this summer window. All the top four rivals. We have vastly more capital and income than Spurs, Arsenal and Liverpool. But we are being beaten on numbers of signings and quality of signings. Badly. Why?
Yeah that’s a shit presser Hope him and the lads can do the business on the pitch later first and foremost though.
Hope him and the lads can do the business on the pitch later first and foremost though.Spurs and arsenal have done nothing, Chelsea have signed shite, liverpool have got one good player but their crap squad is run on Klopp's spunk.
If we can score goals we can win games. Our attack is amazing. I'm still upbeat. No doubt the Sancho deal will progress now that the Thiago deal has shown how deflated the market is.
You're delusional
Its like he is playing bad cop good cop with the glazers in the first and second half of the presser
@Sambob Think you missed this one, I don’t see a response
To be fair I was saying this before Ole said anything and was already frustrated at the decision, and I know others were too so don’t lie about that.
There’s a difference between putting a player out of position (this could help the team), and forcing a kid in front of the cameras (makes no difference), yes he handled the pack of wolves well but he may not have, and I just can’t help but think it undermined everything united have been doing.
It’s not a huge deal but it is a little frustrating.
Calm down mate. Let’s collectively get behind the team.Yeah I'm deliberately making a point because I'm fairly sure a mod will be involved soon.
Either way, it's not because I'm 'not behind the team' it's just a simple opinion, which until a point i argued in a reasoned way, that I've been hounded for. It seems like unless you say exactly what everyone else wants then you aren't allowed an opinion on here.
That were some real poor quotes, any other previous manager would have taken a shitstorm! Kinda shows what a mess we are with that kind of management when we have to focus on things that dont cost a thing. Pressure is now on the players and Ole to deliver but we all know we are not good enough yet if we dont invest
Some see those quotes as yikes, I see them as a subtle dig at the owners. Also he said we're working on deals.
Of course not. I also never want us to go out and lose a match. If we lost today, it wouldn’t make a difference to any incoming transfer activity.
I agree... how can you ever want us to lose?
This post isn't reactionary at all.
Well that went south fast!
How does he cope with all these high powered board meetings if he's that touchy?
Well that went south fast!
How does he cope with all these high powered board meetings if he's that touchy?
Are you smoking crack? ‘Liverpool’s crap squad’? Really?
I think it’s sarcasm tbf. It surely has to be. ‘Spurs and Arsenal have done nothing’, ‘Thiago deal has shown how deflated (deflated!
) the market is’ and ‘Chelsea have signed shite’ are even more criminal statements than that.What utter drivel. Welcome to my block list. All the best with your ivory tower complex.... p.s. From a qualified professional.
Had to watch the press conference to see what all this was about...Ole looks focused to me and just comes across as if he's very busy and press conferences are a bit of a pain.
Doesn't help body language when the conference screen is obviously downwards so he keeps looking down...
I personally think they’re fair quotes, and bodes well if that’s his attitude. These are all aspects of the club that stagnated since Fergie left, they need fixing. We’ve basically become Newcastle of old, where signings are the be all end all of the club. When you fail, just sign more players, hype the fans up for a couple of weeks, never address the root causes.
Yeah, I actually laughed when I read that. Don't know if he's trolling. That line about being the best at things that don't cost anything is an instant classic.
Press conferences are a means to an end, that is all. If you want to go in there with a pre-conceived plan or to attempt to influence certain areas then you can. This can also spectacularly backfire, #rafafachts. Certain managers seem to revel in this spotlight, others not so. This all comes down to personality, nature & how comfortable we are in our given surroundings. As human's we are all adapting to situations all the time. It's inherent in our natural thought process.
It's neither really. It's just the alternative to "we need players and if we don't get them we'll have a rubbish season".
He's got to keep positive in case they don't get anyone.
He covered all bases basically.
I find it alright. I don’t know what he was asked but what I got from the several quotes is he basically wanted to get across:
1. We already have good players so the pool of players who can really improve us is small + the players in that small pool are usually that good that the price is high and selling club don’t want to sell them.
2. By mentioning the above as well as Bruno, VdB, Pogba being fit, etc. he sends out the message to all those players that they are special and he values them (compare that to for example Moyes’ quotes about needing 6-7 players to improve United or you can also compare it to many of Mourinho’s quotes. Players don’t get a moral boost from such negative messages.)
3. He is also having a little dig at Glazers/Woodward by saying that he and his players can only try to do as good as they can in areas which they can control (training, fitness, etc.), but transfers (things which cost money) are out of their hand and the owners’ responsibility
Also these quotes came one day before the first game of our season, Ole can’t be setting a negative mood or sending negative messages among his team.
That’s at least how I see it. A direct attack at the owners isn’t going to help anyone.
How, pray tell me, did we not do that? We sent him on loan to BD and his attitude was questioned so they sent him back. How can a young player go to BD with it's rep for bringing on young players and feck up?
Completely agree with this. I think he hates doing these pressers, and I do sympathize with him. He has a terrible job in the end, having to balance what is probably in the end quite an unhealthy desire to make this job work out with the reality of the club structure he is shackled to. If those bags under his eyes are an indicator of his frustration and stress levels I wouldn't be surprised. For his own sake and that of his family I hope he doesn't burn out.
The Glazers really has him backed into a corner here. He loves the club, and will do absolutely anything to "be a success here", and yet he knows that he can't go on the offensive about the shambles behind he scenes. Doing so won't help his own position, and it will only hurt the group he is trying to motivate ahead of what is bound to be a grueling season. Mourinho did exactly the opposite by pouring gasoline all over the fire, since he had no qualms about negatively impacting the club or the players.
There is still time to turn things around, but with the way his answers come across I don't hold out much hope for a strong end to the window. I just hope the game today will show that player morale isn't too affected by the situation at least.