Shows how little faith he had in Kepa that he felt he had to foul Mane there.
Thiago on for Keita please.
Thiago on for Keita please.
Premier League Gameweek 2
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik and Imran hold a long overdue conversation about United's awful league form with 1 win in 7. They discuss a disappointing draw at Bournemouth, a not so disappointing draw against Liverpool and a crushing defeat at Chelsea - Is time nearly over for Erik Ten Hag?
Then in a special second half of the pod, Nik welcomes Natalie ( https://twitter.com/natalie_17) to discuss the fortunes of Manchester United Women as they booked a place in the FA Cup Final after a historic first ever win vs. Chelsea.
How did the ref not think it was a red straightaway?
Is Rudiger injured? Why is this this terrible defender Christensen playing?
Definite red.
But whether he was playing rugby or not is not what makes it red or not. That's what makes it a foul.
The question is whether Mané, from 30 yards out without the ball under his control, with an out-rushing keeper, had an obvious goalscoring opportunity.
Of course that’s what happens. VAR disagree with what he’s done and say that they think he’s wrong go have another look. That’s always what it’s been set up to work like.
A straight punt down the middle of the pitch and we lose it completely. Thiago and Mendy instead of Christensen and Kepa next weekend please.
Christensen having his Jonny Evans v City moment.
Ruins any chance of Chelsea getting a result here. Classic Liverpool luck - play Chelsea away before they are able to field most of their signings, then this!
Ruins any chance of Chelsea getting a result here. Classic Liverpool luck - play Chelsea away before they are able to field most of their signings, then this!
That freekick is proof that Kepa can actually move from left to right, but only when the shot is not on goal.
it's very rare for the caf to unanimously agree on a red card, so it must've bad 
Who wasn’t a striker. Except for perhaps one season.
We don’t need a world class striker at the club. What we need is a cohesive front line, however that is made up.
Well I know that that was obvious was it not?
Nah, just a really dumb foul as the last man. Nothing malicious, just stupid and clumsy.
Men against boys that first half
Chelsea were embarrassingly bad
Chelsea were embarrassingly bad
Chelsea's attacking play has no structure at all. They really look lost without Pulisic doing magical things.
Werner is looking like a bullet dodged so far for Liverpool.
A head down and run merchant. Poborsky vibes.
A head down and run merchant. Poborsky vibes.
Now watch them go on and score against the run of play
At least the ref does have the final say this way though, rather than taking the word of the tv people.
It was arrogant of the premier league to try and think they had a better way.
Not as bad as the Brighton one TBFit's very rare for the caf to unanimously agree on a red card, so it must've bad
You certainly wonder how he's scored so many goals!
We'll either see Liverpool score a few goals now or Chelsea will just sit back and defend solidly for the remaining 45 minutes. Judging by the first half, I'm going to go for the latter.
Depends on whether you think that Mané would've 'obviously' got the ball under control and smashed it in from 30 yards in the time-frame between him being tackled and Kepa clearing the ball.
yeah that was a shockerNot as bad as the Brighton one TBF
i bet there's some lad on here who reckons its a yellow though
Chelsea had a couple of openings but terrible decision making (Kante specially) killed their momentum
Nice to see football as a whole being an absolute troll to us all again
the ability to process in miliseconds that you will get a red card vs a goal scoring opportunity is what sets apart good defenders from average ones
Chelsea look super anemic in attack, waiting for a miracle without working for it. Liverpool will comfortably score 2 or 3 now, I guess.
And the answer is an absolute yes. The ball not being under control and the keeper rushing out is irrelevant.
All he would have had to do was to knock the ball past Kepa. He was closer to the ball, he would have got there first.
It’s as blatant red as you can get. Even if it’s a 50/50 between Mane and Kepa, it’s still a red.
The fact that Mane is carrying a defender on his back is hampering him challenging to nick the ball. The ball is close enough to him to make it a straight red.
I’ve seen a few mateyeah that was a shocker
i bet there's some lad on here who reckons its a yellow though
Not bad, but just obvious.it's very rare for the caf to unanimously agree on a red card, so it must've bad
How the ref thought that was a yellow I don't know
Glad to see a player finally get a red for trying to scythe down a counter attack, even if it went in Liverpools favour. For all our complaints about our own CB pairing, they're still better than Chelsea's.
I wish we would try to move the ball around as quickly as these two are doing though. Rare for any of them to take more than a couple of touches, but it does take movement to have the passing options.
I wish we would try to move the ball around as quickly as these two are doing though. Rare for any of them to take more than a couple of touches, but it does take movement to have the passing options.
Don't think it was arrogant at all. It works in rugby that way; a tv on the side is not needed.
It works in rugby because their VAR refs are not afraid to disagree with the onfield referee. That was the main issue last season in the Premier League: the VAR refs were too reluctant to disagree with the referee's decision.
Chelsea won't go anywhere without a top coach.
Lucky for them Roman doesn't suffer fools gladly.
Lucky for them Roman doesn't suffer fools gladly.
Henderson created more in 1.5 seconds than we created in 90 minutes
I personally don't think that's a red. Mane doesn't even have possession of the ball, nor was he definitely favourite to get it... But he can't really complain
Way to screw your team over. Best Chelsea can hope for is a draw now.
Thats only because Liverpool play such a high line. Like their last game, Chelsea are resorting to sitting back and hoofing it up for a counter. Completely different than last season where they tried to outplay their opponents with fluid football.
I do agree. There's no real spark there. It has to be tactics and the instructions Lampard has given, surely? They do look like they're missing Pulisic, though.