Luke Shaw says Manchester United need signings

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Raiola would be the one to actually say it I'd imagine, whether or not Pogba actually wants him to.

"United gave a new contract to my client under the premise they'd be trying to get back to the top, but they make no signings and let every other top 6 club over take them"
 

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As a wider point it is true what Shaw is saying.

But lack of transfer is no excuse for the game against Palace! and for 90% of the games this season.
 

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Must be draining mentally for players when they only see one new player come through the door, especially players who were over relied upon last season as we didn't have adequate back up.
They should be professional and focus on winning games regardless of whats going on with transfers.

Im not happy with our transfer business but I'm equally unhappy being beat 3-1 at home to Crystal Palace who'd only ever beat us once before at home in the Premier League, and that only this time last year.

Two in a row against Palace, this group of players should be doing better than that against Palace, he should be apologising not laying the blame at no signings.
 

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Raiola would be the one to actually say it I'd imagine, whether or not Pogba actually wants him to.

"United gave a new contract to my client under the premise they'd be trying to get back to the top, but they make no signings and let every other top 6 club over take them"
He already did this last season while having a go at Ole aswell
 

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Never good for team spirit when players talk about transfer policy. With doing that you are saying in public that some of your teammates are shit.
 

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Pogba would be the most likely.

He'd send this place into civil war.
Not a chance, he is negotiating his contract and knows no one can pay him what he currently gets here, at least not until covid is over.

Most of our players are not serial winners, besides Pogba all the others havent won shit or are seniors who their best days have past such as Matic and Mata.

The younger ones who are hungry should be the ones that demand a better squad so they can compete, Im talking about Martial, Rashford, Bruno. All this players can go by their whole career with nothing to look back if we stay the same way.
 

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Don't matter who we sign. Liverpool and Chelsea so much better than us. Every single player comfortable on ball and amazing first touch.
 

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Pre-season, lack of match fitness & no crowd to get you over the first game deff played a huge role aswell.
 

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They should be professional and focus on winning games regardless of whats going on with transfers.
What if you worked for a company that refuses to hire help even though you're all overworked? And all the competing companies across the street are fully staffed with paid vacation days?

He's not wrong saying they need certain things.
 

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So you’d rather sack Ole and go through all that again?
Of course not. I still have some faith in him.

Said it before, the message is right, the timing is bad. Just like Shaw complaining about the lack of better players, after he fecked up in last game.

Ole needs to do this demand after a series of win. THen he has more credibility to ask for more. If only he won even one trophy last season, there's no doubt that Sancho would be here already. Time and time again, Investor just like to invest on winner. Unless he's a gambler or in desperate.
 

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What if you worked for a company that refuses to hire help even though you're all overworked? And all the competing companies across the street are fully staffed with paid vacation days?

He's not wrong saying they need certain things.
Shaw overworked? And he's most likely get paid double than those in competing companies.
 
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Never good for team spirit when players talk about transfer policy. With doing that you are saying in public that some of your teammates are shit.
See no issue with it at all. It’s not as if it comes as a shock. What would be even worse is if he came out and said the opposite!

You could argue he’s better not saying anything at all, and that’s valid.
 

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Of course not. I still have some faith in him.

Said it before, the message is right, the timing is bad. Just like Shaw complaining about the lack of better players, after he fecked up in last game.

Ole needs to do this demand after a series of win. THen he has more credibility to ask for more. If only he won even one trophy last season, there's no doubt that Sancho would be here already. Time and time again, Investor just like to invest on winner. Unless he's a gambler or in desperate.
He did demand it after last season and didn't get it. So what is your point?
 

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Of course not. I still have some faith in him.

Said it before, the message is right, the timing is bad. Just like Shaw complaining about the lack of better players, after he fecked up in last game.

Ole needs to do this demand after a series of win. THen he has more credibility to ask for more. If only he won even one trophy last season, there's no doubt that Sancho would be here already. Time and time again, Investor just like to invest on winner. Unless he's a gambler or in desperate.
For all we know he was straight on the phone to Ed just minutes after he secured us 3rd place. That would’ve been the ideal time to ask for signings, but it clearly didn’t work if he did.
 

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For all we know he was straight on the phone to Ed just minutes after he secured us 3rd place. That would’ve been the ideal time to ask for signings, but it clearly didn’t work if he did.
It did. Last season performance got him 40m signing, and chasing another 120m player. If only Ole doesn't insist on this 120m player, we may get another one or two others. Bruno is supposedly this summer signing also.
 

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Shaw overworked? And he's most likely get paid double than those in competing companies.
You know I'm saying a team as a whole with no depth will be overworked in a season where there are games every 3-4 days. It's not just about Shaw. He said the team needs signings.
 

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Sometimes people fall on their swords for the greater thank you LS
 

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Need more than him saying it.

Need our captain, need bruno, pogba, our key players saying it
I think one player saying it is enough. Anymore may lead to an air of negativity around our players.
 

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Never good for team spirit when players talk about transfer policy. With doing that you are saying in public that some of your teammates are shit.
Ironic since his position is one we need better players for. You’d think he would be the last one to pipe up about brining in new players when we’ve been linked with a LB all window.
 

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I bet he has ole's blessings, otherwise he wouldn't have said it.
 

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Thank feck Shaw out of all people had the balls to come out and speak the truth.

He's in line to get some stiff competition but good on him for being honest about the transfer dealings.
 

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But that is the point exactly.

To fairly assess the performance of the negotiators, it must be appreciated that the negotiators are like middlemen between multiple parties.

a. The manager states who he wants
b. The owners/board state how much can be spent
c. The selling club states their price

If any of these parties simply refuses to budge, there is nothing the negotiators can do. No strategy, not even negotiating with a 100 players will convince Dortmund to reduce the price for Sancho.

So at this point, the negotiations cannot be blamed. Only the board for not providing funds, the manager for not having a back up player, and the selling club for not being agreeable.
Negotiation should have started months ago. They should have worked on multiple players in each position which means that by summer we would know how much they would cost, if the players are interested and whom we're signing. Of course clubs may play dirty at the 11th hour or competition might drive the price up. However that wouldn't be an issue as the club could switch to plan B or plan C if needed.

We bought 1 player and we got rid of 1 deadwood. Woodward himself spoke of the difficulty of United buying more then 3 players per summer which explains why we give contract extensions to player who are clearly not good enough.
 

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Well yeah they need support, i wholeheartedly agree. So let’s back him instead of setting him up to fail. Sacking Ole would be just letting the board off the hook once again.
I agree. The more inexperienced a manager is the more support he needs. Let's take extremes as examples. On one hand you've got Lampard who was ridiculously backed during the summer. He can also rely on a DOF whose so efficient that she's almost lethal. On the other hand there's Sir Alex who won the EPL title with Cleverley in midfield.

Ole is far from perfect. His heart is at the right place, he's trying to bring in the right sort of players (At first he did spent ridiculous money for what seemed to be a Brexit FC. However he seemed to have learnt from it) and he's got a knack of winning the big games. However his tactics are a bit meah. That's something all fans should admit unless they don't want to look biased. Having said that, that is something we can work with and its something the club CHOSE to work with. What we need is to bring in experience behind him (DOF, a football CEO etc) and we also need to properly support him on the transfer market.
 

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Well done, Luke! He has a point, and we only need to look at the impact Bruno made, not because he is the greatest of all time, but because he’s a good player who brought some freshness of ideas and skills. This season will be even more compressed than ever, and if we want to even entertain the idea of finishing third again we’ll need reinforcements.
 

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Definitely. Players sign for Man Utd to win trophies. When they see the club stagnate it can't help but leave them disillusioned. If you are Pogba would you sign a new deal seeing how unambitious the club's ownership is?
You are looking at this from a fans pov and not a players £££ pov, most don't care about club silverware and sign because of the silly money they make and personal brand gory .

legbreaker son and Kane at spurs have won feck all silverware yet are more than happy to take their overinflated wages and be big fish in a small pond being legends among their cult fanbase...

Also we should've sold Pogba for 100m when we had the chance, he sums up the post SAF culture of decline : insane wages, inconsistent , 'phoned in' performances, leach agent, does not care about the shirt, disappears when we need him most, doing the bare minimum to collect wages etc
 

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Think a few of them are tired if Lindelöf. Just look at how he screamed at Bruno last season.
 

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Just for factual clarity, to those saying, “how dare he say that after he gave away the first goal”, this interview took place on Thursday.
 

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I am not surprised at this statement. The fact that players have thought about it and discussed amongst themselves tells me that they they are starting the season with a lot of pessimism.

Seems to me that Luke (and others) may have already downed tools because they believe that the gap in talent is insurmountable this season. This is on Ole if he isn't able to motivate the current players and get them to perform at their peak. Just the fact that they are speaking to the media about needing signings is a red mark on Ole's resume.

SAF's team always had immense self-belief and backed themselves to win every game, even when the odds were stacked against us and we were facing better players. We may or may not get players at the end of the window but the team, with our current resources, should be definitely chasing 3rd or 4th position.
 
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I am not surprised at this statement. The fact that players have thought about it and discussed amongst themselves tells me that they they are starting the season with a lot of pessimism.

Seems to me that Luke (and others) may have already downed tools because they believe that the gap in talent is insurmountable this season. This is on Ole if he isn't able to motivate the current players and get them to perform at their peak. Just the fact that they are speaking to the media about needing signings is a red mark on Ole's resume.

SAF's team always had immense self-belief and backed themselves to win every game, even when the odds were stacked against us and we were facing better players. We may or may not get players at the end of the window but the team, with our current resources, should be definitely chasing 3rd or 4th position.
Players haven’t downed tools for goodness bloody sake.
 

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While I agree with the point, I don't think that a current player should make that type of statement mainly because there is a finite amount of spots in the squad and that he is essentially making the point that some of his teammates should be jettisoned. How is the locker room supposed to take it and it's even worse when it comes from a player that shouldn't be a guaranteed mainstay. But there is one positive about it, we now know without doubts that this football club doesn't have strong leadership at the managerial level which includes both Woodward and Ole.
In what world is this a positive?