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All well and good but it's written in the Constitution that the Presidency ends on 20th January (2021) and if litigation started and no clear winner produced then we'll be legally having President Pelosi.
 

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Not sure how many of you have come across Dan Carlin - he does a podcast called Hardcore History which is excellent - and rarely now he does one called Common Sense. He's about as American as one can be - extremely libertarian, a constitutionalist, a historian and generally I've always found him an excellent foil to the more 'new liberal' hosts of most major podcasts like Klein and so forth.

Anyway he's just done an excellent podcast (linked below for Google) where, for him, he's saying look around people, this is the next civil war. This is the Rubicon crossing, this is it. It's happening before our eyes, slowly, obviously and we're doing nothing. He is about the least reactionary, least dramatic voice out there, and he is freaked the f*ck out.

All quite depressing. I'm not sure what a world where both the US and UK are both broken look like, but with Merkel leaving soon too and Macron being, well Macron...what do we have left?

(https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aH...ubGlic3luLmNvbS9kYW5jYXJsaW4vY3N3ZGNkMjAubXAz)
 

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Not sure how many of you have come across Dan Carlin - he does a podcast called Hardcore History which is excellent - and rarely now he does one called Common Sense. He's about as American as one can be - extremely libertarian, a constitutionalist, a historian and generally I've always found him an excellent foil to the more 'new liberal' hosts of most major podcasts like Klein and so forth.

Anyway he's just done an excellent podcast (linked below for Google) where, for him, he's saying look around people, this is the next civil war. This is the Rubicon crossing, this is it. It's happening before our eyes, slowly, obviously and we're doing nothing. He is about the least reactionary, least dramatic voice out there, and he is freaked the f*ck out.

All quite depressing. I'm not sure what a world where both the US and UK are both broken look like, but with Merkel leaving soon too and Macron being, well Macron...what do we have left?

(https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aH...ubGlic3luLmNvbS9kYW5jYXJsaW4vY3N3ZGNkMjAubXAz)
Merkel's popularity abroad is in no way shared by a large majority of Germans. She has long overstayed her welcome and caused a great deal of harm to the country with her catastrophic immigration politics and shovelling unfathomable amounts of German taxpayers money into the financial black hole that is the EU. On paper, Germany is doing well, but poverty amongst normal people is growing fast. Good riddance to her.

As for US civil war - man I hope he is wrong but it's a powder keg.
 

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Merkel's popularity abroad is in no way shared by a large majority of Germans. She has long overstayed her welcome and caused a great deal of harm to the country with her catastrophic immigration politics and shovelling unfathomable amounts of German taxpayers money into the financial black hole that is the EU. On paper, Germany is doing well, but poverty amongst normal people is growing fast. Good riddance to her.
I know, she doesn't have long left. And then what? It's all a bit depressing. Anyone know how easy it is to move to the Scandinavian countries?
 

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Merkel's popularity abroad is in no way shared by a large majority of Germans. She has long overstayed her welcome and caused a great deal of harm to the country with her catastrophic immigration politics and shovelling unfathomable amounts of German taxpayers money into the financial black hole that is the EU.
AfD nonsense.
 

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They're building to full out civil war after this election because of this gobshite. Angry + Stupid people + Guns is a recipe for disaster.
Yeah was discussing this with a mate in the middle of lockdown and we came to the conclusion, win, lose or draw, America's having a civil war (of sorts) to cap off a truly shite 2020.
 

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Yeah was discussing this with a mate in the middle of lockdown and we came to the conclusion, win, lose or draw, America's having a civil war (of sorts) to cap off a truly shite 2020.
Defo. And as usual when something happens in America you can bet your house that it'll be coming soon to these shores shortly after. I think the fallout from Covid and Brexit will kick off something here as well next year so batten down the hatches.
 

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Merkel's popularity abroad is in no way shared by a large majority of Germans. She has long overstayed her welcome and caused a great deal of harm to the country with her catastrophic immigration politics and shovelling unfathomable amounts of German taxpayers money into the financial black hole that is the EU. On paper, Germany is doing well, but poverty amongst normal people is growing fast. Good riddance to her.

As for US civil war - man I hope he is wrong but it's a powder keg.
So you really think that germany has not gotten their investment in EU back ten fold? Just the artificially low exchange rate and the negative interest rate makes it worth it for Germany. And thats before even starting on how easy movements of goods and labour are within EU. Germany is one of the biggest beneficiaries of the EU
 

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So you really think that germany has not gotten their investment in EU back ten fold? Just the artificially low exchange rate and the negative interest rate makes it worth it for Germany. And thats before even starting on how easy movements of goods and labour are within EU. Germany is one of the biggest beneficiaries of the EU
Not its citizens. Germany has a per capita savings rate that is about half of that of Italians and other comparable European economies. German people are, on average, surprisingly poor.

Otherwise I agree with you, even though I would make a distinction between the EU and the Euro. Germany is one of the biggest beneficiaries of the Euro - it's a currency that is too weak for their economy, which aides exports. Germany is, just like the UK was, a net payer to the EU.
 

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Trump said Jews are ‘only in it for themselves’ and suggested they weren’t loyal to America: White House officials

A new report claims that President Donald Trump has privately accused American Jews of being more loyal to one another than to the United States.

Both current and former White House officials tell the Washington Post that Trump one time ranted about American Jews after getting off a phone call with Jewish lawmakers.

Specifically, the Post’s sources say the president “has muttered that Jews ‘are only in it for themselves’ and ‘stick together’ in an ethnic allegiance that exceeds other loyalties.”

Additionally, these sources say that Trump “has maintained that Black Americans have mainly themselves to blame in their struggle for equality, hindered more by lack of initiative than societal impediments,” while also telling aides that he “could never understand” why first lady Melania Trump would ever want to visit Africa.

A former White House official tells the Post that, when challenged by aides on his comments, Trump would say, “No one loves Black people more than me.”

Another former official said that their best defense of Trump is to say that he may not be an overt white supremacist.

“Woodrow Wilson was outwardly a white supremacist,” the former official said. “I don’t think Trump is as bad as Wilson. But he might be.”

Carol Anderson, a professor of African American Studies at Emory University, tells the Post that Trump’s racist rhetoric reminds her most of former President Andrew Johnson, who was frequently accused of having sympathy for the Confederacy during his tenure.

“Johnson made it clear that he was really the president of a few people, not the American people,” Anderson said. “And Trump has done the same.”
 

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caused a great deal of harm to the country with her catastrophic immigration politics and shovelling unfathomable amounts of German taxpayers money into the financial black hole that is the EU.
Are you located in Germany? Cause this doesn't have any basis in facts that I'm aware of. You're just repeating AfD talking points now, which are probably repeated in international right-wing media.
 

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Not its citizens. Germany has a per capita savings rate that is about half of that of Italians and other comparable European economies. German people are, on average, surprisingly poor.

Otherwise I agree with you, even though I would make a distinction between the EU and the Euro. Germany is one of the biggest beneficiaries of the Euro - it's a currency that is too weak for their economy, which aides exports. Germany is, just like the UK was, a net payer to the EU.
I'm on the phone so I'm not going to go looking, but this is basically the opposite of what I remember. Not saying you're wrong, but where are you getting this from?
 

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Are you located in Germany? Cause this doesn't have any basis in facts that I'm aware of. You're just repeating AfD talking points now, which are probably repeated in international right-wing media.
You're not accusing Libano of parroting reactionary, populist right-wing arguments are you? I'm incredulous!
 

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I'm on the phone so I'm not going to go looking, but this is basically the opposite of what I remember. Not saying you're wrong, but where are you getting this from?
It's funny that the right wing talking points are the same across countries. Our resident nutjob in The Netherlands (Baudet) recently touted these same figures, screaming we should stop helping out Italy because they are on average far richer than Dutch people. I don't remember the exact misrepresentation of the figures, but it's a load of rubbish.
 

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What would be illegitimate about the judge's appointment though?
The McConnell rule, the same one he pinned on Biden to hold the seat hostage for over a year. Just another bullshit excuse to allow a few cnuts who represent the minority, bigots, racists, dumbfecks and mentally challenged run to piss their fecked up agenda all over us.
 

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It's funny that the right wing talking points are the same across countries. Our resident nutjob in The Netherlands (Baudet) recently touted these same figures, screaming we should stop helping out Italy because they are on average far richer than Dutch people. I don't remember the exact misrepresentation of the figures, but it's a load of rubbish.
My brother is a right winger and everyday I tell him he doesn't know what he is taking about, the information he has can be easily proved wrong and he is being an absolute cnut. Doesn't change a thing, he gets dumber by the week by being immersed in right wing media.
 

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When will the Citizens start shooting at each other in open Civil war and what will be the orders to the army.

What a broken country. What a mess.
It's very sad to see.

The sooner someone shoots Trump the better.
 

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It's funny that the right wing talking points are the same across countries. Our resident nutjob in The Netherlands (Baudet) recently touted these same figures, screaming we should stop helping out Italy because they are on average far richer than Dutch people. I don't remember the exact misrepresentation of the figures, but it's a load of rubbish.
I was actually just looking up some numbers right now. The reason the claim struck me so hard is that Germany have been running such a huge current account surplus, and if anything Germans are excess savers compared to their consumption, but current account balance is of course very aggregate so maybe it was something else.

An excerpt (pdf warning) from the OECD Factbook talks about net household saving rates. 2013 as a comparison (doesn't seem to matter much which year, it looks like): Germany 9.1 %, EU 28 4.7, Euro area 6.1, Italy 3.9, France 9.1, U.K. 0.0.

Eurostat mainly operate with gross household savings rate instead of net, numbers from 2018: Germany 18.5 %, EU 10.3, Euro zone 12.5, France 13.9, Italy 10.0, UK and Spain 6.0.

Maybe @Libano had something else in mind, but I'm drawing a blank.
 

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I was actually just looking up some numbers right now. The reason the claim struck me so hard is that Germany have been running such a huge current account surplus, and if anything Germans are excess savers compared to their consumption, but current account balance is of course very aggregate so maybe it was something else.

An excerpt (pdf warning) from the OECD Factbook talks about net household saving rates. 2013 as a comparison (doesn't seem to matter much which year, it looks like): Germany 9.1 %, EU 28 4.7, Euro area 6.1, Italy 3.9, France 9.1, U.K. 0.0.

Eurostat mainly operate with gross household savings rate instead of net, numbers from 2018: Germany 18.5 %, EU 10.3, Euro zone 12.5, France 13.9, Italy 10.0, UK and Spain 6.0.

Maybe @Libano had something else in mind, but I'm drawing a blank.
I think you're being too kind, or have not read many of their other posts.
 

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The McConnell rule, the same one he pinned on Biden to hold the seat hostage for over a year. Just another bullshit excuse to allow a few cnuts who represent the minority, bigots, racists, dumbfecks and mentally challenged run to piss their fecked up agenda all over us.
I looked it up, and I'm actually confusing illegitimate and illegal. Although you could argue that 'illegitimate' is a little strong after McConnell said one thing four years ago and another now. It's not like this has become a real tradition. He's just being the opportunistic snake that he is.
I think you're being too kind, or have not read many of their other posts.
Seeing this after his previous post on Norway having a full welfare state because it has oil and isn't in the EU or Euro, and that a full welfare state is impossible in Greece, Spain, and Italy, I am starting to lean towards this idea. Good fact-check by @NotThatSoph though.
 

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Not sure how many of you have come across Dan Carlin - he does a podcast called Hardcore History which is excellent - and rarely now he does one called Common Sense. He's about as American as one can be - extremely libertarian, a constitutionalist, a historian and generally I've always found him an excellent foil to the more 'new liberal' hosts of most major podcasts like Klein and so forth.

Anyway he's just done an excellent podcast (linked below for Google) where, for him, he's saying look around people, this is the next civil war. This is the Rubicon crossing, this is it. It's happening before our eyes, slowly, obviously and we're doing nothing. He is about the least reactionary, least dramatic voice out there, and he is freaked the f*ck out.

All quite depressing. I'm not sure what a world where both the US and UK are both broken look like, but with Merkel leaving soon too and Macron being, well Macron...what do we have left?

(https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aH...ubGlic3luLmNvbS9kYW5jYXJsaW4vY3N3ZGNkMjAubXAz)
I’m a huge fan of Hardcore History - I am in the Facebook group too. His most recent Common Sense episode was spot on and guaranteed to have a lot of the members of the Common Sense FB group’s heads exploding.
 

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I’m a huge fan of Hardcore History - I am in the Facebook group too. His most recent Common Sense episode was spot on and guaranteed to have a lot of the members of the Common Sense FB group’s heads exploding.
You sir are a man of impeccable taste.

Indeed - I can imagine a decent size overlap between his followers and Trump voters. Not the majority, but a decent size. My one Trump supporting friend is a huge fan too, can't wait to discuss with him this weekend.
 

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You sir are a man of impeccable taste.

Indeed - I can imagine a decent size overlap between his followers and Trump voters. Not the majority, but a decent size. My one Trump supporting friend is a huge fan too, can't wait to discuss with him this weekend.
Oh I bet that’ll be a fun convo. The schadenfreude is real knowing how pissed off he probably made his right wing audience.
 

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When will the Citizens start shooting at each other in open Civil war and what will be the orders to the army.

What a broken country. What a mess.
It's very sad to see.

The sooner someone shoots Trump the better.
The Army is loyal to the constitution first and foremost, not the President.

By all accounts Trump is heavily unpopular with the Army....
 
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