Edinson Cavani - SIGNED for United

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you didn’t answer my question, and it seems pointless debating with you.
come February when Ighalo has left and we need to bring on a striker because we are losing, who exactly do we bring on?
How about someone good that we bought instead of this zimmer frame?

Not too exited about this transfer but we need an additional striker and we don't want to / can't spend, so I guess there aren't many options.
Obviously there are few options if you won't spend. That's kind of the problem.
 

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It also sounds like we got him down from that too. I consider that a good deal personally.
Basically, he'll definitely be earning less than players Kane, Salah, Aguero, and Aubameyang whilst earning more than players like Mane, Vardy. His salary could potentially equal that of Roberto Firmino at Liverpool.
 
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What if he comes in and it's Sanchez all over again? Someone earning big money, thinks they should start but isn't doing it on the pitch? This is such a big risk with very little chance it will pay off.
Of course It’s a risk. but it’s not like Sanchez. If it’s a one year deal, then the financial stakes are incredibly different to the commitment we had on Sanchez.

whether he perform or not, we will obviously have to wait and see. However, to say there’s “very little” chance of it paying off is wrong in my opinion.
 

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it will be hard for me to follow anything you post from now on.
That's tragic mate, I'm sure Cavani will fill the void though and make you very happy.

For someone who is such a Lukaku hater, it's so weird to see you fanboying over a player like this. You'd be smart to put your bets elsewhere.
 

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The idea is rotation, but Cavani is not happy with just that. He is the type to push to play. He has rivalry with Neymar, then Icardi.

For all the bad press against Icardi, he get on well with other players, like Neymar, Mbappe. Cavani is very competitive, but also the type that thinks he's better than he really is.

Edit: Cavani had rivalry with Zlatan too. And by all the rumor, is one of the few players that Zlatan holds grudge for.

https://en.as.com/en/2020/05/07/football/1588839328_356466.html
How do you know he’s not happy to rotate. Your just making that up.
 

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You play the other 3 players that are available for that position.

If Shaw is injured, who do you play? If Matic is injured or tired, who do you play? If Maguire is injured or tired, who do you play?
The whole point of my post is that the others are not good enough in that position.
I am not saying to sign Cavani but we need a good striker.
 

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and his parking spot.
As a real power move he should nick Tony’s giant sports direct mug. Just be sat there in the Carrington caf on Monday drinking tea out of it and staring Tony down unblinkingly as he walks in.
 

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Basically he's an upgrade to Ighalo who have been underwhelming recent games and only here till Jan. Hopefully Cavani will only be here maximum of 2 years. If it's 3 years then I won't feel surprise.. typical of the club.

Could also meant we're going to play Martial at LW at some point since he and Rashford are the only two that can play there. James have become rubbish.

RW is still a glaring issue.. but I suppose Mata's recent form may be enough just as cover.

CF: Martial, Cavani
LW: Rashford (Martial, VDB)
RW: Greenwood, Mata
 

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The whole point of my post is that the others are not good enough in that position.
I am not saying to sign Cavani but we need a good striker.
Are McTominay or Fred good enough? Is Williams good enough? Are Dalot, TFM good enough?

Of all the positions to strengthen, we make the most moronic decision as usual. Banter FC, back again! :nervous:
 

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Not going to happen this window at least.

Players in squad that would have to be registered:
  1. David De Gea
  2. Victor Lindelof
  3. Eric Bailly
  4. Phil Jones
  5. Harry Maguire
  6. Paul Pogba
  7. Juan Mata
  8. Anthony Martial
  9. Marcus Rashford
  10. Chris Smalling
  11. Lee Grant
  12. Jesse Lingard
  13. Marcos Rojo
  14. Fred
  15. Bruno Fernandes
  16. Daniel James
  17. Sergio Romero
  18. Luke Shaw
  19. Timothy Fosu-Mensah
  20. Odion Ighalo
  21. Dean Henderson
  22. Aaron Wan-Bissaka
  23. Nemanja Matic
  24. Donny van de Beek
  25. Axel Tuanzebe
  26. Scott McTominay
Those who don't:
  1. Mason Greenwood
  2. Diogo Dalot
  3. Brandon Williams
  4. Teden Mengi
add Edinson Cavani and that makes 27 that needs to be registered. Smalling is the only player that needs to be registered that has remotely been solidly linked with a move away. To sign a RW or CB after Cavani, we would need to get rid of at least three players by Monday deadline - not going to happen.
Jones, Rojo and Romero won't be registered if Smalling stays and we get Telles, Sancho and Cavani.
 

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Indeed. For me the issue is less about whether he's still good, but more this throwaway attitude that "He's replacing Ighalo, so it makes sense." Ighalo's signing didn't make a lot of sense, or at least it was the sign of a club that wasn't exactly planning and executing a long term plan with military precision. It just put out one fire. The Ighalo signing was supposed to give us breathing room to get the right player(s) in, not to simply create a revolving door through which an ageing, overpaid striker comes, keeping the seat warm until the next one.
Well put, fully agree. Just more evidence that we're poorly ran as a club.
 

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Are McTominay or Fred good enough? Is Williams good enough? Are Dalot, TFM good enough?

Of all the positions to strengthen, we make the most moronic decision as usual. Banter FC, back again! :nervous:
McT and Fred did very well last year when we needed them, so did Williams tbf.
Doubt you’ll get too many saying the other two are good enough, hence why we’re trying to move them on.
 

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People are unhappy because we haven't completed Sancho and Telles yet. If this was announced after Telles and Sancho, people would be very happy. Even if this was announced after Telles, there wouldn't be this much criticism.
 

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I hope a good portion of any related wage is performance related. Plus we were always reported to be looking for a striker to replace Ighalo. We just weren't linked to anyone until this last week. I also hope that his previous deals falling through this window means we've gotten a good deal wage wise with him.
 

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McT and Fred did very well last year when we needed them, so did Williams tbf.
Doubt you’ll get too many saying the other two are good enough, hence why we’re trying to move them on.
So McTominay, Fred and Williams is good enough cover, but Rashford, Greenwood and Ighalo (all can play as striker, along with Martial) isn't?
 

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People forget that Cavani was not just available for 3 months. He was available for pre contract negotiation since January!
I know. And nobody took him up, which tells us how desperate we are.
The issue is that his wages are high and he is in the twilight of his career, with PSG not using him much over the last 2 seasons.
I can only assume that those who are happy with this signing don't realise this.
 

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I know. And nobody took him up, which tells us how desperate we are.
The issue is that his wages are high and he is in the twilight of his career, with PSG not using him much over the last 2 seasons.
I can only assume that those who are happy with this signing don't realise this.
Or maybe he just reduced his demands a fair bit.
 

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I'm not so sure it could have been. We're the last top club circling around him and it looks like we wont be giving him everything he wanted i.e. long term deal. If we had done this earlier maybe the demands would have been more, but he's probably as desperate as we are.
That's what I'm hoping. He's had deals fail so his demands should have fallen.
 

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Reportedly £172k a week basic. That's before add-ons
Thats less than I was fearing. Was expecting £250-£300k basic. If they pay him an extra £20k a goal and he scores 25+ in the premier, then thats money well spent.
 

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Or maybe he just reduced his demands a fair bit.
It seems fairly apparent that we wouldn't need to do this if we had landed Sancho. So giving up on that is the thing that has changed.

I will keep saying this till I'm red in the face. Ed likes young players with big resale or old players on a free. That's why we end up with a weird looking squad.
 

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It is a 12 month contract, with an option for a 2nd. The guy is only 33 and is a proven goal scorer. I really do not see the issue.
 

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I know. And nobody took him up, which tells us how desperate we are.
The issue is that his wages are high and he is in the twilight of his career, with PSG not using him much over the last 2 seasons.
I can only assume that those who are happy with this signing don't realise this.
People just want to grasp at any positives out there, it makes them still have belief that we can do something meaningful this season.
 

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Indeed. For me the issue is less about whether he's still good, but more this throwaway attitude that "He's replacing Ighalo, so it makes sense." Ighalo's signing didn't make a lot of sense, or at least it was the sign of a club that wasn't exactly planning and executing a long term plan with military precision. It just put out one fire. The Ighalo signing was supposed to give us breathing room to get the right player(s) in, not to simply create a revolving door through which an ageing, overpaid striker comes, keeping the seat warm until the next one.
It depends what people's opinions at the club are on some of the strikers in the academy. Martial is clearly our first choice, we need a suitable back up, but do you buy someone who'll take up minutes in the future for someone's path to the first team? It speculation on my part, but you also don't know the thought process behind it either. I'd think a 2 year deal means they have an idea for someone at the club or in the near future they'll go for in the strikers role. We also don't know who the first choice was for this role, I'm sure there was someone before Cavani.
 

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Cavani feeds off crosses, balls into the box. So how does it even look like a good signing, bearing in mind we dont have anyone who can cross a ball. This signing reeks of desperation and goes against anything that makes sense.
Nah, Bruno, Pogba, Rashford all cannot cross.
 

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I think he will score goals for us but does that mean we’re not getting Sancho?
 

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People are unhappy because we haven't completed Sancho and Telles yet. If this was announced after Telles and Sancho, people would be very happy. Even if this was announced after Telles, there wouldn't be this much criticism.
I doubt we will sign Sancho or Telles if we waste time to get this done over prioritising those two deals.
Its an awful signing IMO if it happens. I’d rather get no one and sign a striker in January. Questionable fitness, not the most mobile so doesn't fit our pressing game. Two year contract, probably pretty large wages. Not PL proven. Most likely to not hit a barn door like these ‘amazing’ Other strikers That looked good on the continent To Arrive in PL like Higuain, Pato, Falcao, Soldado etc. Past it Fat cat after a last payday IMO.

I hope i am totally wrong and he bangs in a shitload of goals But i am 95% sure he will
Prove to be what i wrote above.

Time will tell
 
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