First Choice XI now

AngeloHenriquez · Oct 6, 2020

First XI

De Gea
AWB__Maguire__Bailly__Telles
Pogba__Matic__Bruno
Greenwood__Martial__Rashford

Second XI

Henderson
Williams__Lindelof__Tuanzabe__Shaw
Mctominay__VDB__Fred
Mata__Cavani__James

To be fair, that second XI has improved dramatically, it's the fact the first needs to be a lot better that's the issue, only debates here are

Shaw - Telles
Henderson - DDG
Bailly - Lindelof
Pogba - VDB
Cavani-Martial

I think my first XI shows who I think will win the battle by the end of the season.

Meep · Oct 6, 2020

It's clear out current eleven isn't working wonders. We have to try something new.

Henderson
Lindelof Maguire
Wan Bissaka Matic Telles
Fred Van de Beek
Fernandes
Cavani Rashford

Ops.. my formatting didn't work.. sorry

ManchesterYoda · Oct 6, 2020

GK: Henderson

RB: Wan-Bissaka
RCB: Bailly
LCB: Maguire
LB: Telles

DM: Fred
CM: Van de Beek
CM: Bruno

RW: Greenwood
ST: Martial
LW: Rashford

The 3 man midfield needs to play as a midfield. Bruno should not play high up next to Martial. He should be one side of Fred, with van de Beek the other side.

abkmufc92 · Oct 6, 2020

De Gea/Henderson
AWB Lindelof Maguire Shaw/Telles
Matic
Fred Van de Beek
Bruno
Greenwood Rashford

Or

De Gea/Henderson
AWB Lindelof Maguire Shaw/Telles
Fred
Pogba Van de Beek
Bruno
Greenwood Rashford

I'm sick of watching a midfield of Matic and Pogba, when we are not in possession of the ball they are shit.

When Martial is back swap him for Greenwood or Rashford.

Red Indian Chief Torn Rubber · Oct 6, 2020

De Gea

Wan Bissaka
Tuanzebe
Maguire
Telles

Fred
Pogba

Greenwood
Bruno
Rashford

Martial

gregor · Oct 6, 2020

Henderson
AWB - Bailly - Maguire - Telles
Matic/Fred
Donny - Bruno - Pogba
Greenwood/Cavani - Martial/Rashford

We need to drop one of the forwards to have better balance, we are far too offensive. If you look at Liverpool they have basically 3 box-to-box midfielders and then also Firmino who drops in midfield quite often. We play with 3 forwards, Bruno who plays as SS and Pogba.

Tel074 · Oct 6, 2020

De Gea

AWB. Maguire Tuanzebe. Telles

Matic. VDB

Bruno

Greenwood Cavani. Rashford

Drainy · Oct 6, 2020

De gea

AWB
Bailly
Maguire
Telles

Pogba
Fred

Rashford
Bruno
Martial

Cavani

LawCharltonBest · Oct 6, 2020

GK: Henderson. Less talented, but Henderson seems more determined to do well.

Defence: I'd play a back 5 just for numbers. Wan Bissaka, Bailly, Maguire, Shaw, Telles.

Midfield: Got to play Van de Beek, Pogba and B. Fernandes as a midfield 3. We can't defend anyway, so we need 3 players who can create and score goals.

Forwards: Rashford and Cavani

...............................................Cavani...Rashford................................................
...............................Pogba.........B.Fernandes......Van de Beek..........................
Telles......................Shaw..............Maguire............Bailly..................Wan Bissaka

greendevil · Oct 6, 2020

De Gea
Wan Bissaka/Williams Bailly Maguire Telles/Williams

Fred/McTominay
Bruno Fernandes (C) Van De Beek/Pogba

Rashford Cavani/Greenwood Martial

Squad Players: Henderson, Lindelof, Fosu - Mensah, Tuanzebe, Mata, James, Ighalo

Players I'd happily never see play for us again would be Shaw, Matic, Jones, Rojo, Pereira, Lingard. Several reasons why but the most important one is simply they aren't good enough

sincher · Oct 6, 2020

georgipep said:
Henderson
Williams - Lindelof - Maguire - Shaw
Fred - McT
Greenwood - Bruno - Rashford
Martial (once his suspension is over)

Subs to impact the game:
- Telles for Shaw if we need additional attacking width from the left
- Pogba for McT if we need creativity
- Matić for Fred if we need more physicality
- VdB for McT if we need to move the ball faster
- VdB for Bruno if we need more movement and bodies in the box
- Cavani for Martial for Plan B and more presence in the box
- James for Greenwood for a more direct approach and to feed Cavani with crosses
- Mata for Greenwood for more intricate combinative play and against very low block
- Lingard for Greenwood for when we need to press from the front intensively

Jones for Lindelof if we need more gurning
Rojo for Maguire if we really need to get down to 10 men
Romero for Henderson if we need our keeper to look more spaced out
Pellistri for noone if we need 12 men and reckon we can sneak a little one on the pitch without anyone noticing
Ighalo for Martial if we need a striker with a bigger butt
etc.

georgipep · Oct 6, 2020

sincher said:
Jones for Lindelof if we need more gurning
Rojo for Maguire if we really need to get down to 10 men
Romero for Henderson if we need our keeper to look more spaced out
Pellistri for noone if we need 12 men and reckon we can sneak a little one on the pitch without anyone noticing
Ighalo for Martial if we need a striker with a bigger butt
etc.

There you go!

This guy knows what's up!

Fosu-Mens · Oct 6, 2020

DDG
AWB - Does not matter - Does not matter - Telles
DvdB - Matic/Fred - Bruno
Greenwood - Martial - Rashford

When the season is over, as in the middle of November we should start playing Laird and Mengi, as they at least got the abilities to be useful in the type of football that is competitive.

JuriM · Oct 6, 2020

On form atm:

DDG
Williams Lindelöf Maguire Telles
McTominay Van de Beek
Greenwood Bruno Rashford
Martial

Henderson, Bailly, AWB, Pogba, Pellistri, Cavani, James

Those who should be downgraded to bench aren't worse than first 11, but just less on form/unproven.

WR10 · Oct 6, 2020

We finally have a squad. Lots of competition and just the right balance.

We

Mcking · Oct 6, 2020

We didn't sign the most important player, a defensive midfielder. Every XI we put out will be weak because of it.

kouroux · Oct 6, 2020

Zed 101 said:
What gets me is how all the pundits refer to how well Utd did after restart.... but the last few matches of the season and cups we were woeful, pretty much playing like we are now......

I also think it uncanny that nobody has twigged that when we were playing well, really well, it was a midfield of Fernandes, and 2 of Mc T , Fred, and Matic..... I am not Pogba's biggest fan, I think a large part of our problems will be solved if playing only one of Fernandes, Pogba or VDB, otherwise the defence is exposed and midfield is more often over run

This.
I can understand it tbh, pundits have to follow a lot of differents teams at the same time and the game has basically become all about stats for them. If you look at the stats during that period without the content of games, you would think we were impressive whereas in reality we really weren't.

JB7 · Oct 6, 2020

For me, it would be as follows:

Henderson
Wan Bassaka - Lindelöf - Maguire - Alex Telles
Matic
Fernandes - Van de Beek
Greenwood - Martial - Rashford

I don't understand why we build up form in a 4-3-3 and then transition into a 4-2-3-1. This has happened twice under Ole and makes no sense to me as the 4-2-3-1 has us playing rigid football in my view.

4-3-3 has Greenwood and Rashford playing much closer to Martial where they can be more dangerous. When we move into the 4-2-3-1, slotting someone into the number 10 role has the effect of pushing the forwards out into wide midfield roles where they are at their least dangerous.

Matic and Pogba both play their best football in a 4-3-3. Matic seems lost when you put him in the double pivot but looks a totally different player as the main shield of the defence centrally. The same also goes for Pogba, who's best football has always come in the oppositions half of the pitch, so dropping him deep in a 4-2-3-1 is just crazy. If we insist on the 4-2-3-1, it has to be Fred & McTominay in my view as Matic and Pogba just don't play the role anywhere near their levels of ability.

The only player currently in the squad capable of taking Lindelofs place in my opinion is Tuanzebe, but as he appears to be constantly injured his chances appear remote sadly and he'll probably be back out on loan next year.

Smores · Oct 6, 2020

It's funny how many have Pogba benched and even Martial moved out of his position. Essentially the same two things that were huge issues 2 seasons ago.

VivaRonaldo85 · Oct 6, 2020

Henderson - GK

AWB - RB
Maguire - CB
Bailly - CB
Telles - LB

Fred - DM
VDB - CM
Fernandes - AM

Greenwood - RF
Martial - CF
Rashford - LF

Subs: DDG, Lindelof, Shaw, Cavani, Mata, Pogba, McTominay

Alemar · Oct 6, 2020

WR10 said:
We finally have a squad. Lots of competition and just the right balance.

We

Lingard instead of James, and also swap Matic with Fred.

Lee565 · Oct 6, 2020

If everyone is fit...

-------------------henderson
---------tuanzebe-maguire-shaw
Mctominay-beek-matic-pogba-telles
---------------------fernandes
-------------------------cavani

Or

------------------henderson
Williams--tuanzebe-maguire-shaw
------------beek--matic-fernandes
---------rashford--cavani--martial

romufc · Oct 6, 2020

I would be very tempted to put Tuanzebe in this team.

The one thing for certain is Pogba and Matic cannot play together. Bruno has to start so Pogba has to be dropped. I cannot see where Pogba fits in this team?

bosnian_red · Oct 6, 2020

Think our best lineup during the season might look something like:

De Gea
Lindelof Maguire Shaw
Wan Bissaka VdB Fred Telles
Bruno
Rashford Martial

Even switching to a 343 with Bruno as a CM next to Fred or Matic, and Greenwood in the front 3. Cavani and Greenwood rotating among the strikers, Pogba rotating between VdB and Bruno whenever he finds form but hopefully gone next summer as he just isn't worth it (ignoring off the pitch stuff. On the pitch he isn't worth his deficiencies). Hoping Tuanzebe gets a chance to get in for Lindelof, but not holding my breath that he'll be good enough.

sincher · Oct 6, 2020

Lee565 said:
If everyone is fit...

-------------------henderson
---------tuanzebe-maguire-shaw
Mctominay-beek-matic-pogba-telles
---------------------fernandes
-------------------------cavani

Or

------------------henderson
Williams--tuanzebe-maguire-shaw
------------beek--matic-fernandes
---------rashford--cavani--martial

That first one is pretty interesting - dropping all of Martial, Rashford and Greenwood, and playing Scott McTominay at right-wing back! Wacky!

The second is disappointingly run-of-the-mill by comparison. You could have chucked Jones and Ighalo in for the lulz.

11101 · Oct 6, 2020

Sandikan said:
Is there any guarantee Cavani is anywhere near fitness? He hasn't had a game in 7months or so

If he's not then we are in trouble because Ighalo doesn't look fit either.

sincher · Oct 6, 2020

11101 said:
If he's not then we are in trouble because Ighalo doesn't look fit either.

Rashford and Greenwood up top could actually work really well IMO. One of the problems I think we have had is essentially the midfield exposure generated by having three strikers in the team.

I would expect the ******* diamond in the next game with Matic deep, Pogba and Fernandes left and right, VdB at point, and two up top. AWB and Telles pushing on.

Lee565 · Oct 6, 2020

sincher said:
That first one is pretty interesting - dropping all of Martial, Rashford and Greenwood, and playing Scott McTominay at right-wing back! Wacky!

The second is disappointingly run-of-the-mill by comparison. You could have chucked Jones and Ighalo in for the lulz.

I put mctominay there because he's the only guy with right foot and has enough defensive qualities about him that I believe is good on the ball and could actually deliver a good cross into the box, I don't know believe the same thing with Williams and definitely not with bissaka (complete waste of money)

SadlerMUFC · Oct 6, 2020

-----------------------------Henderson---------------------------------
Williams-----Maguire-----------Shaw----------Telles
-----------------------------Matic--------------------------
----------VDB------------------------------Fred------------
----------------------------Bruno-----------------------------
---------------Martial------------Rashford-----------------

DeGea, AWB, Lindeloff, McTominay, Pogba, Greenwood, Cavani

I haven't been a fan of us playing a 4-4-2 diamond in the past because we haven't had the right FB's to keep the width and help out the attack. But with Telles coming in he can play LB, which will allow Shaw to partner Maguire and move Maguire to RCB and Williams to RB.

It may or may not work, but I think it's worth a look. And look at those options on the bench. This is an actual squad...

sincher · Oct 6, 2020

SadlerMUFC said:
-----------------------------Henderson---------------------------------
Williams-----Maguire-----------Shaw----------Telles
-----------------------------Matic--------------------------
----------VDB------------------------------Fred------------
----------------------------Bruno-----------------------------
---------------Martial------------Rashford-----------------

DeGea, AWB, Lindeloff, McTominay, Pogba, Greenwood, Cavani

I haven't been a fan of us playing a 4-4-2 diamond in the past because we haven't had the right FB's to keep the width and help out the attack. But with Telles coming in he can play LB, which will allow Shaw to partner Maguire and move Maguire to RCB and Williams to RB.

It may or may not work, but I think it's worth a look. And look at those options on the bench. This is an actual squad...

Shaw as a CB in a back 4? :nervous:

SadlerMUFC · Oct 6, 2020

sincher said:
Shaw as a CB in a back 4?

Yes Shaw as a CB in a back 4..have you seen him play there before? No you haven't. Have you seen him play there in a back 5? Yes you have. Did he do well? Yes he did. Will it put Maguire in his proper position? Yes it will. Have Bailly and Lindeloff showed that they can play there? No they haven't. Is it worth a look? Yes it is. Has your reply contributed anything to this conversation? No it hasn't...

Josh 76 · Oct 6, 2020

groovyalbert said:
Henderson

AWB
Maguire
Shaw
Telles

Matic
Van de Beek
Fernandes

Rashford
Cavani
Martial

De Gea, Bailly, Williams, Pogba, Greenwood, McTominay, That Uruguayan Lad.

or the same as last season.

I would go for the front 6. It needs a refresh.

sincher · Oct 6, 2020

SadlerMUFC said:
Yes Shaw as a CB in a back 4..have you seen him play there before? No you haven't. Have you seen him play there in a back 5? Yes you have. Did he do well? Yes he did. Will it put Maguire in his proper position? Yes it will. Have Bailly and Lindeloff showed that they can play there? No they haven't. Is it worth a look? Yes it is. Has your reply contributed anything to this conversation? No it hasn't...

Touchy! Opinions can differ, it's a forum.

So in your view, the solution to our defensive problems is to try out someone in a position and formation they have never played before and aren't physically well suited to? I doubt it.

Giggsy13 · Oct 6, 2020

If ole had the mettle then we should be dropping De Gea, Matic, Shaw, Maguire and Pogba but he won’t. Martial is suspended so this is what Id like to see:

Henderson

AWB Axel (when healthy) Lindelof Telles

VDB Fred Bruno

Greenwood Cavani Rashford

Make De Gea, Shaw Pogba, Maguire and Matic earn their places again.

Borys · Oct 6, 2020

Telles in for Shaw, because Shaw doesn't do much going forward and Rashford could use some help as he's not a winger.

Fred and McTominay to fight the midfield battle we seem to be losing every game with Matic and Pogba. We're in deep shit right now, might as well try something different. This needs to be done as Bruno loses the ball quite often and we need to keep midfield tight.

Pogba as a sub for Bruno or any of front three, keep him away from midfield.

VdB as a sub for any midfield player.

People including Matic, Pogba or van de Beek in their first XI are really doing my head in.

Blood Mage · Oct 6, 2020

De Gea
Williams - Bailly - Maguire - Telles
McTominay - Fred
Greenwood - Fernandes - Rashford
Martial

Or we can go 3-5-2:

De Gea
Williams - Bailly - Maguire - Shaw - Telles
McTominay - Fred
Fernandes
Greenwood - Martial

VP89 · Oct 6, 2020

Fully fit first XI? The best team would be below:

DDG

AWB
Lindelof
Maguire
Telles

Bruno
Matic
VDB

Martial
Cavani
Rashford

eltigreFalcao · Oct 6, 2020

David De Gea
Wan-Bissaka -- Bailly -- Lindelöf -- Telles
Fred
Donny VdB -- Fernandes
Greenwood -- Cavani -- Martial

Not gonna happen, of course

the chameleon · Oct 6, 2020

This is my line-up. It would require Ole to have balls. He would have change formation to include 3 centre backs.
- Drop that fridge.
- Make Bruno captain.
- Use the 3rd centre back position to blood Menghi or Tuanzebe.
- Replace Pogba with the energy of Van de Beek, this will get the better of Matic.
- Rashford / Martial / Greenwood playing in interchangeably a front 2.

This is not an ideal line-up but I believe this is what would best results. The full-backs would have more attacking responsibility. I would initially use AWB, but also start slowly blooding Laird or someone more attacking during the season.

------------------Rashford-------Martial / Greenwood
---------------------------Bruno (captain)
---------------------VdB--------------Matic
Telles------------------------------------------------------------------AWB (but replace with an attacking full-back ASAP)
-------------Shaw - Lindelof - Bailly/Tuanzebe/Menghi
----------------------Henderson

Lee565 · Oct 6, 2020

SadlerMUFC said:
Yes Shaw as a CB in a back 4..have you seen him play there before? No you haven't. Have you seen him play there in a back 5? Yes you have. Did he do well? Yes he did. Will it put Maguire in his proper position? Yes it will. Have Bailly and Lindeloff showed that they can play there? No they haven't. Is it worth a look? Yes it is. Has your reply contributed anything to this conversation? No it hasn't...

Have to agree, I have hardly any faith in lindelof or bailly and can't imagine shaw would be a huge downgrade, plenty of fullbacks have morphed into good centre backs so why not shaw?

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