Premier league matches to be shown on PPV basis via BT and Sky

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Think this experiment could well result in the return of Prem Plus on a permanent basis for the rights 2022-25
 

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I think this experiment is going to backfire massively. Every corner of the media and general public seems against it. I just hope people don't begrudgingly still pay, as thats exactly what they're banking on.
 

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Why are people so pissed off? It is an extortionate fee but you're not being forced to pay it. These are 3pm games you wouldn't have had the chance to watch anyway. Just don't watch them.
Has it escaped your notice that for the last 6months we have been able to do exactly that? Watch all games including 3pms?
 

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One person could pay the £15, put on computer screen, and then let his mates connect through zoom, teamviewer, anyview, etc
 

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I think it would be worth supporters writing to their relevant club (if in PL) to voice their opposition to this.

You sometimes get reactions like this which then ebb away and people just end up paying anyway, so will be interesting to see if that happens. Hopefully people are prepared to miss a few games for the next few weeks for the longer-term stance.
 

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Proof is in the pudding, some bad press and people eventually hand over the money. Vote with your wallet, thats the only way they understand
 

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Its improving all the time. A few years ago you had to really know what you were doing, streams crashed all the time and when they worked you could barely make out which player was which.

Now almost anybody can put it on a big TV and watch in perfect clarity.

Give it a few more years and there will be no difference between IPTV and Sky HD in ease or quality.


It took the music industry nearly 20 years to stop fighting the likes of Napster and embrace the future of Spotify. How long will it take football?
I finally bit the bullet and got BT VIP package...now I feel like I'm being fleeced for even more. Luckily I can edit my package whenever I like which was one reason I took the plunge.
 

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Exactly, there’s 3 heavy weight fights coming up £20 a pop and they’re all trash fights. Fury and Joshua is up to £25 a fight.
Mediocre fighters are now the headlines on Sky and anything with a bit of interest is PPV.


Bob Arum recently came out and called it immoral and he’s right.
Bob Arum was right but he is also a bitter hypocrite. He came out and said that because of what Sky were willing to pay for the Lomachenko-Lopez fight next week. Then of course he struck a deal with fite.tv for it to be a £9.99 PPV for us in the UK. He also wanted that fight on PPV in America probably for 60 dollars plus but ESPN said it wouldn't do many buys.

DAZN will hopefully get all boxing over here and put it on their monthly package for £5, as was their plan in May with the Canelo-Saunders fight.
 

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When they decided to split the PL package was the first kick in the teeth for fans, then ITV losing the CL was final nail. I have MUTV as well as Sky on a running contract and BT. I really only have MUTV for the women's games. The picture is atrocious at the moment. It is supposed to be HD but it looks like someone is filming it on their phone. I loved watching La Liga on Sky, until they managed to lose that to yet another subscription channel. I might seriously cancel MUTV and get La Liga Channel and still save money.
I used to watch a lot of la liga on sky, havnt watched a single match of it since. The prem will go the same way.
It’s pure greed.
I used to have MUTV too but cancelled that last year, you soon get used to not missing anything
 

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Even without PPV it fecks me off something rotten how many adverts Sky subject you to on top of charging a subscription.

To now try and rip us off for an extra £15 per game on top of that for the right to have 16 bet365 adverts shoved down my throat at HT, they can go feck themselves.
 

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Even without PPV it fecks me off something rotten how many adverts Sky subject you to on top of charging a subscription.

To now try and rip us off for an extra £15 per game on top of that for the right to have 16 bet365 adverts shoved down my throat at HT, they can go feck themselves.
This! I wonder when interest will start to drop and people will stop paying these prices?
 

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Bob Arum was right but he is also a bitter hypocrite. He came out and said that because of what Sky were willing to pay for the Lomachenko-Lopez fight next week. Then of course he struck a deal with fite.tv for it to be a £9.99 PPV for us in the UK. He also wanted that fight on PPV in America probably for 60 dollars plus but ESPN said it wouldn't do many buys.

DAZN will hopefully get all boxing over here and put it on their monthly package for £5, as was their plan in May with the Canelo-Saunders fight.
I know he went to fite TV then and is now charging £9.99 for the fight, but I still think Sky should’ve bought the fight anyway it just shows their loyalty lays with the casual fan base to make as much money as they can.
For any proper fight fan Loma v Lopez is one of the best fights this year and the fact Loma has only been on Sky once speaks volumes.
 

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People can say they are charging for 3PM games which wont be live anyway BUT many people might have signed up recently with SKY/BT and they are on 18 months contract hoping they can watch all the games with their 55£ a month subscription. They might feel cheated now.
 

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There needs to be a mass boycott of sky and bt and all Premier Leagues games for 1 weekend. Send these greedy cnuts a message.
 

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Even without PPV it fecks me off something rotten how many adverts Sky subject you to on top of charging a subscription.

To now try and rip us off for an extra £15 per game on top of that for the right to have 16 bet365 adverts shoved down my throat at HT, they can go feck themselves.
To be fair this isn't a TV companies led thing... This is solely down to the PL.

Think I heard the TV companies won't really make much of this and they were happy just showing all games.
 

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Don't even need to go that far. If nobody buys these individual PPVs, they'll stop doing them quick enough.
I still can't believe that when I lived in Australia every premier league game was included with my $15 a month phone contract. Hope no fecker buys a single PPV.
 

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Seen an interesting post a few days ago, someone said Spotify & Apple started to charge only £10 a month to have all the music you want and it killed music piracy,

The premier league are so concerned about illegal football streaming yet they think the best way to combat that is charge people a further £15 to watch a football match on tv on top of there subscription, and then on top of that they also didn't think being in the middle of a pandemic where millions have lost there jobs wouldn't play a part, it's absolutely disgusting and i hope it backfires and loads of people cancel there subscriptions.
 

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It’s daylight robbery. I moved to Australia 3 years ago and I have Optus sport included with my phone contract. Getting it separate is about $100 a year. It gives every league and UCL game. Which is all I really need. Sure it sucks waking up in the middle of the night to watch games but at least it’s reasonably priced !
 

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can you imagine paying £15 to watch spurs smash us 6-1? Perhaps if they charged £5 per game there wouldn't be such outrage
 

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Seen an interesting post a few days ago, someone said Spotify & Apple started to charge only £10 a month to have all the music you want and it killed music piracy,

The premier league are so concerned about illegal football streaming yet they think the best way to combat that is charge people a further £15 to watch a football match on tv on top of there subscription, and then on top of that they also didn't think being in the middle of a pandemic where millions have lost there jobs wouldn't play a part, it's absolutely disgusting and i hope it backfires and loads of people cancel there subscriptions.
Huh, yeah. That’s a good point regarding Spotify and Apple Music, actually. Consider that, as well as how much value you get when comparing their £15 fee with services such as Netflix and you see how out of touch with reality these people are.
 
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I know he went to fite TV then and is now charging £9.99 for the fight, but I still think Sky should’ve bought the fight anyway it just shows their loyalty lays with the casual fan base to make as much money as they can.
For any proper fight fan Loma v Lopez is one of the best fights this year and the fact Loma has only been on Sky once speaks volumes.
I'd say it's the best fight this year. Sky did bid for the fight but Bob Arum wanted more money. Unfortunately its not worth that much to Sky because only hardcore boxing fans will stay up until 4am to watch it.
 

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Feck the PL and the broadcasters. I cancelled my Sky and BT subscriptions this morning, and I will be saving a fortune over the course of a year. I’ll watch every single match on an illegal stream.
 

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I’m curious. Perhaps someone with greater knowledge than I can enlighten me. Why, in 2020, is the


Huh, yeah. That’s a good point regarding Spotify and Apple Music, actually. Consider that, as well as how much value you get when comparing their £15 fee with services such as Netflix and you see how out of touch with reality these people are.
amazon do the same with prime, for about an extra £7/8 a month you can get all the music they have. Theyve completely took the piss just as a 2nd wave pandemic is underway
 

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Like me in Czech Republic. I pay 15eur per month and have all Serie A, La Liga, Premier league. In Premier league its like 8 rounds each weekend
In Nigeria, all 380 games are shown live for the equivalent of 13 quid a month. The overall coverage is even better. I don't pay for sport anymore. Not because I can't afford it, it's a rip off. I feel cheated.
 

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This whole system has to collapse at some point.

They keep charging more and more and justify it by saying they need the money to spend billions on transfers and astronomical wages for useless prima donnas. Nobody thinks it's fair that very average players earn 500 times more than a normal working class person. Nobody thinks it's fair that a groundskeeper or a mascot gets fired so the players can keep wallowing in their cash. Nobody thinks it's fair that a f**ing jersey cost 100£.

I support my local club by going to the actual games, but I refuse to pay ridiculous amounts to watch sports at home. I sincerely hope this pandemic and the refusal of regular fans to be mugged off spells the end of the obscene greed that has ruined football at the highest level.

If we just keep coughing up the dough, the next step will be guaranteed CL places for the 'elite' and that disgusting European Super League.
 

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There's been a little bit of outrage but not enough to change the tide. I'd like the football bubble to pop in order to bring the game back down to earth.
 

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Never had sky and never will or bt tv service, I have and will continue to watch through various means.
 

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Yes because they want fecking £15 to watch a fecking game of football!! £15 ON TOP of the £100 a month people are already paying just to watch fecking football.

yes, I’m outraged and would have been even without the pandemic. I will never, never pay to watch a single game of football. you can not even begin to compare it to a match day ticket.

the fact they’ve introduced this when fans can’t get to stadiums, can’t get to pubs and will feel more forced to ppv individual games does make it worse and makes it seem like they’re taking the piss when people are already struggling. How long before the super Sunday matches return to 3pm Saturday KO so they can ppv it? Then sky can feck off too as they’d be even more pointless

My interest has been waning anyway and this is the final nail in the coffin. football, a sport for the working class is pricing the working class out of the game now, even at home. They can feck off
You are aware there were people before that paid to go to football games and paid for sky on top of that.

Complain about the market in general but this specific action does not affect the sky or bt package, their still the same as before, the last few months has essentially been a "free trial" and now you have to paid the companies steep price if you wish to continue with the service... 3pm games were always going to be PPV, look at what the EFL have been doing from the start of the season. In fact the PL are probably charging £15 because EFL teams are charging £10.

You've probably got people in this thread that complain about not spending 110m on Sancho and other players and then complain about this..
This whole catering to the working class argument does not exist in this sport anymore if ridiculous transfer fees and wages exists. Hasn't for a long time.
 
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Lower leagues ARE showing all their games currently.
I follow is the platform in the lower leagues and is £10 a game, although clubs may well give them free to season ticket holders. This season it's every game, whereas last year it was only non sat 3pms unless you were abroad.

So the premier was always going to be more.
I didn't know about that, that is good news, and it makes a lot of sense since the vast majority of it is not televised anyway. It's good that it can be watched whilst happening BCD.

Vast majority of PL football is televised regardless, and has been for a long time. Adding another cost on top of the already very expensive sports subscriptions doesn't seem to make much sense, and seems like a slap in the face to their existing customers. They tried it before and it failed, I don't see why it will succeed this time.
 

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Feck the PL and the broadcasters. I cancelled my Sky and BT subscriptions this morning, and I will be saving a fortune over the course of a year. I’ll watch every single match on an illegal stream.
Think most will go this way. I just hope mine doesn't get shut down!
 

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Yes because they want fecking £15 to watch a fecking game of football!! £15 ON TOP of the £100 a month people are already paying just to watch fecking football.

yes, I’m outraged and would have been even without the pandemic. I will never, never pay to watch a single game of football. you can not even begin to compare it to a match day ticket.

the fact they’ve introduced this when fans can’t get to stadiums, can’t get to pubs and will feel more forced to ppv individual games does make it worse and makes it seem like they’re taking the piss when people are already struggling. How long before the super Sunday matches return to 3pm Saturday KO so they can ppv it? Then sky can feck off too as they’d be even more pointless

My interest has been waning anyway and this is the final nail in the coffin. football, a sport for the working class is pricing the working class out of the game now, even at home. They can feck off
Anyone paying over £100 a month for sports packages need a slap, no actually, my apologies

They need 10 dozen slaps for being a moron

There are wayyyyyyyy cheaper options without even going to illegal streams!! Options that are 90% cheaper in some cases!!

Sky and BT are nevertheless rip off merchants but there are easy ways around their prices, I’ve no sympathy for idiots that pay full wack and moan about it
 

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I didn't know about that, that is good news, and it makes a lot of sense since the vast majority of it is not televised anyway. It's good that it can be watched whilst happening BCD.

Vast majority of PL football is televised regardless, and has been for a long time. Adding another cost on top of the already very expensive sports subscriptions doesn't seem to make much sense, and seems like a slap in the face to their existing customers. They tried it before and it failed, I don't see why it will succeed this time.
If they'd brought this in first it would be one thing - you can still stream it free elsewhere, but at last you have a legitimate way to watch a saturday 3pm...
But to have given them away free for 6months as part of other packages and then taken them away, it's a joke.

I wonder how much revenue they think this'll make. Surely Sky and BT will still want to pick the better games bigger teams for their packages, or people will moan even more.
And if that happens and you leave the Fulham, Brighton types for ppv, how many are even going to watch those anyway?!

Bizarre.
 

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Anyone paying over £100 a month for sports packages need a slap, no actually, my apologies

They need 10 dozen slaps for being a moron

There are wayyyyyyyy cheaper options without even going to illegal streams!! Options that are 90% cheaper in some cases!!

Sky and BT are nevertheless rip off merchants but there are easy ways around their prices, I’ve no sympathy for idiots that pay full wack and moan about it
How would you even pay £100+ a month for sport?

Full price BT sports as a month pass is £25, and Sky sports is £33.99.
So that's less than £60 going that route?!

People seem to include the cost of their Sky tv in general into the conversation.