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In this climate, I've been reading and listening to more about football, the conclusion, I've come to which wasn't a surprise how negative ex pros, pundits in papers online, on radio etc, are towards Man Utd, I know it's been there from way back, but alot of it was jealousy from others because of our success.
But of late it's a blatant way to just stick the knife in, and it's the usual suspects the gutter useless press football writers who were probably given a good feck off when SAF was at OT. Or the mediocre ex pros who won feck all and had a few international caps in non descript games.

Example of negative press on last weekend's games.. ie Utd got a thumping, Utd were hammered Utd are a disgrace, sack the manager, ok we all know it was bad and as fans don't like it but have to except it, we as fans give them more grieve it's when it's deserved.
Utd were not the only team to get pumped at week end . One game ended 7-2. . Comments on that are Liverpool lost just lost it's a blip, there goal keeper is shit, etc . No overreaction by press or pundits in that game, because they beat Gunners and Chelsea, but scraped past Leeds, and went out of the EFL cup again.

I've read and listened to the whole load of crap that comes out of the Talk shite sport Radio station. Look online or turn radio on, in International break, and it's not about the international games, there still looking for stories true or untrue , about Man Utd. No matter what UTD do, it still seems where the biggest draw for everyone even the tosser who can only get a radio job after there mediocre careers are over in whatever sport they choose. Or fat useless football writer who hasn't even kicked a ball of wool.
 

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Time for Utd to start playing better and win more matches. That's how you shut people up.
 

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In this climate, I've been reading and listening to more about football, the conclusion, I've come to which wasn't a surprise how negative ex pros, pundits in papers online, on radio etc, are towards Man Utd, I know it's been there from way back, but alot of it was jealousy from others because of our success.
But of late it's a blatant way to just stick the knife in, and it's the usual suspects the gutter useless press football writers who were probably given a good feck off when SAF was at OT. Or the mediocre ex pros who won feck all and had a few international caps in non descript games.

Example of negative press on last weekend's games.. ie Utd got a thumping, Utd were hammered Utd are a disgrace, sack the manager, ok we all know it was bad and as fans don't like it but have to except it, we as fans give them more grieve it's when it's deserved.
Utd were not the only team to get pumped at week end . One game ended 7-2. . Comments on that are Liverpool lost just lost it's a blip, there goal keeper is shit, etc . No overreaction by press or pundits in that game, because they beat Gunners and Chelsea, but scraped past Leeds, and went out of the EFL cup again.

I've read and listened to the whole load of crap that comes out of the Talk shite sport Radio station. Look online or turn radio on, in International break, and it's not about the international games, there still looking for stories true or untrue , about Man Utd. No matter what UTD do, it still seems where the biggest draw for everyone even the tosser who can only get a radio job after there mediocre careers are over in whatever sport they choose. Or fat useless football writer who hasn't even kicked a ball of wool.
Liverpool convincingly beat Chelsea and Arsenal already. Villa was definitely a blip.

We’ve played absolutely terrible in all 3 games so far and should be on zero points out of 9 and should have had the worst start to a premier league season ever. So yeah the criticism is probably well deserved right now. The transfer market was a shit show from the board. But the football with the current crop was also a shit show. So a big shit show all round which deserves the shit being thrown at the club.
 

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Liverpool convincingly beat Chelsea and Arsenal already. Villa was definitely a blip.

We’ve played absolutely terrible in all 3 games so far and should be on zero points out of 9 and should have had the worst start to a premier league season ever. So yeah the criticism is probably well deserved right now. The transfer market was a shit show from the board. But the football with the current crop was also a shit show. So a big shit show all round which deserves the shit being thrown at the club.
We have been shit in the transfers, we have been shit in our games we have played so far. We have been shit in everything so the shit is going to be thrown and it is a shitty thing but the shit is going to hit.
 

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The vast majority of United fans are not from Manchester and don't have a direct family link to the city. The only reason they're fans is because of the club's media profile and the level of coverage that floods the internet.

If you live by the sword, you die by the sword. Negative coverage is a natural consequence of being a major news interest. It's churlish to complain about it when media coverage - both good and bad - is the major reason the Caf even exists. Frankly, it's impossible to have one without the other in the modern world. Suck it up.
 

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Liverpool convincingly beat Chelsea and Arsenal already. Villa was definitely a blip.

We’ve played absolutely terrible in all 3 games so far and should be on zero points out of 9 and should have had the worst start to a premier league season ever. So yeah the criticism is probably well deserved right now. The transfer market was a shit show from the board. But the football with the current crop was also a shit show. So a big shit show all round which deserves the shit being thrown at the club.
You must be a talk sport commercial sponsor or something. Noones disputing the dross that's been show in 1st 3 games of premier league. The issues are the Bias reporting! Let's not get ahead of ourselves Liverpool where Hammerd , conceding 7 with 11 players still on the pitch has been not a topic , because UTD shipped in 6 with 10 men for over 1hr. The problems with the so call experts they are choosing to ignore the 7-2 result , because it doesn't make headline, than Utd do. As for convincingly beating Chelsea they went down to 10 as well! Leeds they scraped past , that game must have been a blip, but the same team got a point off City!! There already out of one cup with a whimper, there's no Negative press. WHY.
 

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The vast majority of United fans are not from Manchester and don't have a direct family link to the city. The only reason they're fans is because of the club's media profile and the level of coverage that floods the internet.

If you live by the sword, you die by the sword. Negative coverage is a natural consequence of being a major news interest. It's churlish to complain about it when media coverage - both good and bad - is the major reason the Caf even exists. Frankly, it's impossible to have one without the other in the modern world. Suck it up.
Exactly the modern world, it's full of Shits all over the place. I hope some of there Biased words stick in there throat come end of season who knows.
 

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Liverpool convincingly beat Chelsea and Arsenal already. Villa was definitely a blip.

We’ve played absolutely terrible in all 3 games so far and should be on zero points out of 9 and should have had the worst start to a premier league season ever. So yeah the criticism is probably well deserved right now. The transfer market was a shit show from the board. But the football with the current crop was also a shit show. So a big shit show all round which deserves the shit being thrown at the club.
have to pretty much agree.... and you could go further by saying it's been a shitshow for well over a year, with a few games after the Restart bucking the trend
 

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You must be a talk sport commercial sponsor or something. Noones disputing the dross that's been show in 1st 3 games of premier league. The issues are the Bias reporting! Let's not get ahead of ourselves Liverpool where Hammerd , conceding 7 with 11 players still on the pitch has been not a topic , because UTD shipped in 6 with 10 men for over 1hr. The problems with the so call experts they are choosing to ignore the 7-2 result , because it doesn't make headline, than Utd do. As for convincingly beating Chelsea they went down to 10 as well! Leeds they scraped past , that game must have been a blip, but the same team got a point off City!! There already out of one cup with a whimper, there's no Negative press. WHY.
Liverpool won the league last season, finished second with 97 points before that, reached two CL finals in the last three seasons, winning one. For them, it IS a blip. We've been shite for years now.

Also, you probably don't pay nearly as much attention to Liverpool stories in the media.
 

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We’re the second, arguably biggest due to our fanbase, club in the world. We’re going through quite a slump right now, so do you not expect negative press?
 

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United sells.

We are both one of the most hated and most loved clubs so any story about United is going to be clickbait and get the likes and comments on social media. Whether it's our own fans wanting more info or opposing fans wanting to laugh at us, any story about us is going to get the attention that the person who wrote it wants.

Literally every day I see a new negative story about United. Half the time is about stuff that happened ages ago or is not anything even worth reporting but the opportunity to use our name never seems to be passed up.
 

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This is a great opportunity for our players and staff - to build a siege mentality, "us vs them", "let's prove everyone wrong" etc.

I doubt they have the BALLS to respond to the criticism though. More likely they'll cower and self pity.

maybe they read the forum
 

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Liverpool won the league last season, finished second with 97 points before that, reached two CL finals in the last three seasons, winning one. For them, it IS a blip. We've been shite for years now.

Also, you probably don't pay nearly as much attention to Liverpool stories in the media.
Exactly.

They also have a proven world class manager, while we have a manager who is entirely unproven at this level.

Why anyone would expect the narrative around the clubs to be the same after a heavy defeat when the situations are demonstrably different, I have no idea.

Reflecting reality isn't bias.
 

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In this climate, I've been reading and listening to more about football, the conclusion, I've come to which wasn't a surprise how negative ex pros, pundits in papers online, on radio etc, are towards Man Utd, I know it's been there from way back, but alot of it was jealousy from others because of our success.
Yes of course, they don't get paid to come on TV/media and say nice things about United... its not MUTV is it? If past players criticize United it raises the hackles of our fans and they reply on social media, and/or it encourages the ABU's to take to the airwaves... the broadcasters/media outlets/etc. win either way!

Surprised this sort of thing is still worth mentioning, United's coverage on the front page of newspapers as well as the back pages has been going on for years...grown whiskers by now!
 

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You must be a talk sport commercial sponsor or something. Noones disputing the dross that's been show in 1st 3 games of premier league. The issues are the Bias reporting! Let's not get ahead of ourselves Liverpool where Hammerd , conceding 7 with 11 players still on the pitch has been not a topic , because UTD shipped in 6 with 10 men for over 1hr. The problems with the so call experts they are choosing to ignore the 7-2 result , because it doesn't make headline, than Utd do. As for convincingly beating Chelsea they went down to 10 as well! Leeds they scraped past , that game must have been a blip, but the same team got a point off City!! There already out of one cup with a whimper, there's no Negative press. WHY.
As a one-off game their performance was even worse, but the overall situation isn’t comparable. They’ve had a decent transfer window (at least they’ve signed all of their targets, I think), had just won the league and certainly had a lot more in their squad at the moment. We’ve had a disastrous windows where we’ve failed to sign any of our main targets aside from van de Beck and this season was supposed to be a season where we’ve finally stepped up.

United failing makes a great headline, but there are objective factors for the difference in coverage of those games as well. If Liverpool (hopefully, but not highly likely) will continue to lose, they’ll get absolutely battered by the press as well.
 

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Time for Utd to start playing better and win more matches. That's how you shut people up.
Exactly.

United were hammered and Liverpool did have an uncharacteristic match.

Answer the critics on the pitch.
 

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You must be a talk sport commercial sponsor or something. Noones disputing the dross that's been show in 1st 3 games of premier league. The issues are the Bias reporting! Let's not get ahead of ourselves Liverpool where Hammerd , conceding 7 with 11 players still on the pitch has been not a topic , because UTD shipped in 6 with 10 men for over 1hr. The problems with the so call experts they are choosing to ignore the 7-2 result , because it doesn't make headline, than Utd do. As for convincingly beating Chelsea they went down to 10 as well! Leeds they scraped past , that game must have been a blip, but the same team got a point off City!! There already out of one cup with a whimper, there's no Negative press. WHY.
The fact you are even comparing our situation with Liverpool’s maybe highlights the reason why you are bewildered by the different press coverage between Utd and Liverpool.

It’s because both clubs are in incredibly different situations. One is well run and well managed. The other is terribly run and not even sure who is going to be managing.
 

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You must be a talk sport commercial sponsor or something. Noones disputing the dross that's been show in 1st 3 games of premier league. The issues are the Bias reporting! Let's not get ahead of ourselves Liverpool where Hammerd , conceding 7 with 11 players still on the pitch has been not a topic , because UTD shipped in 6 with 10 men for over 1hr. The problems with the so call experts they are choosing to ignore the 7-2 result , because it doesn't make headline, than Utd do. As for convincingly beating Chelsea they went down to 10 as well! Leeds they scraped past , that game must have been a blip, but the same team got a point off City!! There already out of one cup with a whimper, there's no Negative press. WHY.
It's not biased reporting. Liverpool has had two extremely good seasons, they're the best team in England and has won a league title and a CL, and started this season with three wins in a row. This after their last league title was 30 years ago. A 7-2 rout is extreme, and noteworthy, but it's not (at least yet) indicative of anything. It's a freak occurrence, like when Chelsea ended our 29 game unbeaten run in 99 by smashing us 5-0 the season after the treble.

United were the best team in England for two decades, and are now mediocre. Snatching third place after a long unbeaten run, there was some optimism for the first time in a while, and we were expected to maybe turn a new leaf. Then we start our season shit as ever, and tops it all of with a brutal loss against a Tottenham side that was even worse than United last season and against our old manager that we sacked for bad results. Our loss is symbolic of the post SAF era of United's fall from grace.

The two situations are not even close to comparable,
 
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The vast majority of United fans are not from Manchester and don't have a direct family link to the city. The only reason they're fans is because of the club's media profile and the level of coverage that floods the internet.

If you live by the sword, you die by the sword. Negative coverage is a natural consequence of being a major news interest. It's churlish to complain about it when media coverage - both good and bad - is the major reason the Caf even exists. Frankly, it's impossible to have one without the other in the modern world. Suck it up.
depends on your definition of fans

most supporters are definitely from Manchester

cue: “it is not Sunday tomorrow“
 

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The fact you are even comparing our situation with Liverpool’s maybe highlights the reason why you are bewildered by the different press coverage between Utd and Liverpool.

It’s because both clubs are in incredibly different situations. One is well run and well managed. The other is terribly run and not even sure who is going to be managing.
role reversal is unbelievable in a relatively short time :(
 

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Liverpool convincingly beat Chelsea and Arsenal already. Villa was definitely a blip.

We’ve played absolutely terrible in all 3 games so far and should be on zero points out of 9 and should have had the worst start to a premier league season ever. So yeah the criticism is probably well deserved right now. The transfer market was a shit show from the board. But the football with the current crop was also a shit show. So a big shit show all round which deserves the shit being thrown at the club.
I kind of agree with Keane until this club breaks up the groups forming and these posers are sold any manager will struggle here. Ole needs to take charge and get hard in these feckers as he will be gone before Xmas otherwise.
 

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Well it's hard to find good stuff about Utd these days apart from Rashford.
 

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We should be building a siege mentality then if this is the case. Fergie or even Mourinho would.
 

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When SAF managed us I always believed the press we received was biased against us. We were rarely made clear favourites in league predictions & despite Arsenal really not doing much barring a short period had to listen to how much better their football was than ours but ultimately the club currently is a joke. We deserve the negative press.

If we were playing better & winning more it’d be far easier to ignore; if it’s affecting you that badly don’t listen. I haven’t listened to Talksport in years & have unsubscribed to most football pods; if you attend games it’s a totally different experience.

I kind of agree with Keane until this club breaks up the groups forming and these posers are sold any manager will struggle here. Ole needs to take charge and get hard in these feckers as he will be gone before Xmas otherwise.
Can you expand on the ‘groups forming & posters’? I’m guessing you work in & around the club as you’re so clued up.

OgS is as much to blame as any squad member in this sh*tshow; soon he’ll have managed the club for as long as LvG did & opinions were formed about him far quicker.

Playing staff up needs a shake.
 

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You must be a talk sport commercial sponsor or something. Noones disputing the dross that's been show in 1st 3 games of premier league. The issues are the Bias reporting! Let's not get ahead of ourselves Liverpool where Hammerd , conceding 7 with 11 players still on the pitch has been not a topic , because UTD shipped in 6 with 10 men for over 1hr. The problems with the so call experts they are choosing to ignore the 7-2 result , because it doesn't make headline, than Utd do. As for convincingly beating Chelsea they went down to 10 as well! Leeds they scraped past , that game must have been a blip, but the same team got a point off City!! There already out of one cup with a whimper, there's no Negative press. WHY.
Because a CL winning, League winning, team and manager is going to be given a free pass once in a while. They have earned it. Do you remember us getting beat 6-1 at OT? I don't remember the press tearing us a new one after that. That's the respect we and our manager commanded that time. When we earn the respect back, the world will also see 6-1 defeats as a blip.
 

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I've read and listened to the whole load of crap that comes out of the Talk shite sport Radio station.
Why would you do this to yourself though? Or at least, you make it sound like you have been searching the internet and the airwaves to make sure United is really being discussed negatively everywhere...
 

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We’ve had negative press all my lifetime. That’s what happens when you have one of the largest fan bases in the world. Tabloids know that we generate clicks/buys.
 

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depends on your definition of fans

most supporters are definitely from Manchester

cue: “it is not Sunday tomorrow“
Well seeing as we’re a huge and global club it’s unlikely that the majority are from Manchester.
 

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This is a great opportunity for our players and staff - to build a siege mentality, "us vs them", "let's prove everyone wrong" etc.

I doubt they have the BALLS to respond to the criticism though. More likely they'll cower and self pity.

maybe they read the forum

Unlikely given how they fold like cardboard everytime we get a setback on the pitch . I have never seen a United team so utterly weak mentally.
 

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United have had negative press for as long as I can remember, even when Sir Alex was at his best, and we were winning everything in sight. Negative stuff was only ever a few inches away. The difference now is that we're crap so it seems more prominent but it's always been there.