Hey that's unfair there'll be a few hard man stares too.
Internationals October (Nations League + Euro 2021 play-offs + Friendlies)
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik and Imran hold a long overdue conversation about United's awful league form with 1 win in 7. They discuss a disappointing draw at Bournemouth, a not so disappointing draw against Liverpool and a crushing defeat at Chelsea - Is time nearly over for Erik Ten Hag?
Then in a special second half of the pod, Nik welcomes Natalie ( https://twitter.com/natalie_17) to discuss the fortunes of Manchester United Women as they booked a place in the FA Cup Final after a historic first ever win vs. Chelsea.
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You dont need rice and henderson in a 3 5 2. It should be either orIs it not a typical 3-5-2 side? No Kane so DCL starts. No Sterling so Rashford starts.
Mount is the most strange pick. Grealish deserved to start or Sancho.
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Mount will be playing behind the 2 strikers won't he, rather than on the right?
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A lot of standing around looking gormless too.Hey that's unfair there'll be a few hard man stares too.
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That is not the best balance though. Just like it is not for us with Pogba and Bruno. They also got many attacking fullbacks. Against weak teams in qualifiers it may work, but not against the best teams.You must play 4-3-3 (with two attacking midfielders) with Kane, Sterling, Rashford, Sancho, Greenwood, Ings & Calvert-Lewin as forward options and Grealish, Foden, Barkley, Mount, Maddison & Alli as attacking midfield options.
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Pretty sure he wasn't called up for a while after 2018 world cup when he was one of England's best players. Been pretty good in his 18 months at Atletico Madrid so don't see the issue although where he's actually playing today is anyone's guess!What’s Southgate obsession with Trippier. He’s like the first name on team sheet every time.
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He should. Might win something. But seriously, he is making international football look a lot harder than it needs to with the talent at his disposal. Squad wise that is a top 3 side in World Football.Why?
Do you expect that he chooses the players after consulting you?
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Samid was being sarcastic, surelyFootball opinions are amazing sometimes.
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no he'll be on the right with Rashford on the leftMount will be playing behind the 2 strikers won't he, rather than on the right?
Indeed. Did concede a goal direct from a corner against Macedonia after it. I always felt the media were too harsh on him.Harsh to lump Seaman in with that lot, he played for England for a couple of years after Ronaldinho's fluke.
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True but "big name" coaches like Capello and Eriksson had decent squads too and didn't achieve anything.He should. Might win something. But seriously, he is making international football look a lot harder than it needs to with the talent at his disposal. Squad wise that is a top 3 side in World Football.
The talent available for the English national team coach is relevant to a certain point. English players often underperformed at National team levels.
Southgate style might be boring but he achieved more than many before him.
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Obviously. Look at England's talent pool and then starting with 7 defenders/defensive minded mids.Samid was being sarcastic, surely
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Our only chance to win a tournament is with our attacking players and the other teams in the knock-out stages will have much more respect if we win for example our group stage matches 4-1 against Croatia, 5-0 against Scotland/Serbia and 4-0 against Czech Republic.That is not the best balance though. Just like it is not for us with Pogba and Bruno. They also got many attacking fullbacks. Against weak teams in qualifiers it may work, but not against the best teams.
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Sven did well but lacked that extra bit of balls to make those calls which could have made that England side a world beater. In his defence he managed in a much tougher international era.True but "big name" coaches like Capello and Eriksson had decent squads too and didn't achieve anything.
The talent available for the English national team coach is relevant to a certain point. English players often underperformed at National team levels.
Southgate style might be boring but he achieved more than many before him.
Capello was past it but the squad at his disposal was poor and one of the weakest (most of the big names were physically diminished at this stage).
Gareth did well at World Cup when talent was not as strong - the workmanlike approach worked but now we’re beginning to see his limitations now the squad is much more talented and needs a more forward thinking coach.
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That's also what they said about Deschamps prior to France winning the world cup.Gareth did well at World Cup when talent was not as strong - the workmanlike approach worked but now we’re beginning to see his limitations now the squad is much more talented and needs a more forward thinking coach.
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He should have been one of the first names on the team sheet. To make it even worse he will probably come on as 3rd sub in the 83rd minute.A skilful player like Grealish left out of an England side? The more things change, the more they stay the same. Probably does not run enough or something.
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Grealish, Coady and Sancho are better than the starters
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If Southgate is going to continue with the 343, then I would like to see Shaw as the left-sided centre back, who, in my opinion, has been really good when playing there for us.
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Lindelof playing, woohoo. If he turns into WC defender today I will scream.
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It might sound good in theory, but most of the past winners have been fairly defensive in the balance. You have to go a long way back to find very attacking sides getting a world cup. I guess Germany is the closest example, but they still used Kroos as a 10 with two more defensive midfielders behind him and Özil on the wing.Our only chance to win a tournament is with our attacking players and the other teams in the knock-out stages will have much more respect if we win for example our group stage matches 4-1 against Croatia, 5-0 against Scotland/Serbia and 4-0 against Czech Republic.
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It's about balance, though. Better players don't always guarantee that. Having said that, I too was quite surprised that I didn't see the players you mentioned, but Southgate obviously sees it as something different.Grealish, Coady and Sancho are better than the starters
From England's point of view, it's great to have so many options.
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He is usually good for us (Sweden). He will probably be solid.Lindelof playing, woohoo. If he turns into WC defender today I will scream.
I predict a draw today, but not sure how good you are at the moment.
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You forgot IngsGrealish, Coady and Sancho are better than the starters
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I’m not sure I would call this team balanced. Three right backs on the pitch, Coady dropped in CB for a midfielder. Bizarre lineup once again from Faudgate.It's about balance, though. Better players don't always guarantee that. Having said that, I too was quite surprised that I didn't see the players you mentioned, but Southgate obviously sees it as something different.
From England's point of view, it's great to have so many options.
No way he'd start Sancho after that Abraham party businessGrealish, Coady and Sancho are better than the starters
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Maybe Southgate see’s set pieces as the best chance to get a goal.
Expect a very boring game, that’s of course if England don’t get tanked..
1-0 England..
Expect a very boring game, that’s of course if England don’t get tanked..
1-0 England..
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Play your form and top players ffs. I’m honestly Southgate out now. Hope he and England wins tonight but I just don’t rate him.
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Play your form and top players ffs. I’m honestly Southgate out now. Hope he and England wins tonight but I just don’t rate him.
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Grealish doesnt play through the middlePope
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Play your form and top players ffs. I’m honestly Southgate out now. Hope he and England wins tonight but I just don’t rate him.
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Back to two defensive-midfielders again. Southgate is just too boring for words. Grealish should be ahead of Mount; he is a better player. But no, he had to use him in a friendly against Wales instead.
The pairing of Rice and Henderson has not worked once, so I don't get his obsession with it. In fact, it has been awful every single time. Having no creative midfielder is a bad decision.
If he continues with this, I don't think we are going to have a long tournament.
The pairing of Rice and Henderson has not worked once, so I don't get his obsession with it. In fact, it has been awful every single time. Having no creative midfielder is a bad decision.
If he continues with this, I don't think we are going to have a long tournament.
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AWB should reconsider his international allegiances. Southgate is trying to play as many RBs as possible in an 11, so he has a chance!
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Bookmakers are giving 2/1 on Belgium that’s a great price
Coady in a 2 man defense wouldn't be ideal...but if we're playing a 3 like today he should definitely be playing.Pope
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Play your form and top players ffs. I’m honestly Southgate out now. Hope he and England wins tonight but I just don’t rate him.
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No matter how many attacking creative players England develop Southgate and co. always revert back to these chicken shite tactics.
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So, what you're saying is that it's coming home?That's also what they said about Deschamps prior to France winning the world cup.
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Pickford, Dier and Maguire. What could possibly go wrong.
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Any Irish blood in him?AWB should reconsider his international allegiances. Southgate is trying to play as many RBs as possible in an 11, so he has a chance!
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He could play there as competently and brilliantly as he does on the left.Grealish doesnt play through the middle
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Fully agree that he’s better in a 3 and should be playing today, but at the end of the day he’s a good defender, certainly better than Maguire, Dier or Walker. Walker isn’t even a CB.Coady in a 2 man defense wouldn't be ideal...but if we're playing a 3 like today he should definitely be playing.