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Sport Witness: Man United row between Bruno Fernandes and Ole Gunnar Solskjaer dismissed as 'lies'
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik and Imran hold a long overdue conversation about United's awful league form with 1 win in 7. They discuss a disappointing draw at Bournemouth, a not so disappointing draw against Liverpool and a crushing defeat at Chelsea - Is time nearly over for Erik Ten Hag?
Then in a special second half of the pod, Nik welcomes Natalie ( https://twitter.com/natalie_17) to discuss the fortunes of Manchester United Women as they booked a place in the FA Cup Final after a historic first ever win vs. Chelsea.
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Probably the most accurate case if I were to guess
Rows happen in changing rooms every time a team loses. This is a non-story. The difference right now is that the stadiums are empty at the moment, so every sound is audible on the other side of the door.
The only reason it's made the papers is because the narrative about turmoil at the club makes sense. The journalists started at the conclusion and worked their way backwards. Then add a couple of overheard arguments to corroborate their assumptions and, hey presto, they've got a backpage headline.
The only reason it's made the papers is because the narrative about turmoil at the club makes sense. The journalists started at the conclusion and worked their way backwards. Then add a couple of overheard arguments to corroborate their assumptions and, hey presto, they've got a backpage headline.
We ended up nearer in points to Watford who was in 19th than Liverpool. That's how far off the mark we were last year. Top 4 or not, that's just embarrassing for the club.
Hilarious how people keep shifting the goal post for Ole by saying he has achieved the expectation of top 4 and that's good enough whole Jose got shat on for the horrible football even when he got us second in the league.
Bruno Fernandes: Everything is fantastic. I'm used to losing 6-1. We don't need signings as Maguire and Lindelof are fantastic centerbacks. Onward ho!
You would never hear of a player doing this under Ferguson. Ole looks like he is losing the players faith.
Even more nonsense are those pulling out an issue or claiming friction between players and supposed rival dressing room camps straight out of their behinds and running with it when there's been nothing of the sort reported or even implied by anyone associated to the club outside of the Maguire bust upFernandes and Ole have seemed to always have a brilliant relationship, but suddenly Bruno has lost trust in Ole just because he subbed him off in a game which was already lost?
This story is nonsense. Can’t believe this thread has 7 pages
Different era but yeah. Hard to trust the media these days. Not about reporting facts as much as click bait. Now that the transfer window is over this is an easy piece to write considering our predicament.
Sorry I am deluded as in more than half of the fan base think Ole will take the squad to a title or less?
This probably seems like the closest to what might have actually happened. It's the most reasonable view to take as well.
This club and fan base is absolutely toxic after a couple of defeats.
I'm not trying to 'protect' Ole. Just saying that if these cnuts force him out, they force the next guy out and so forth.I gave 6 to make a point - you can point to VDB, Matic, DDG/Henderson, etc.
Your squad is never full of top players from top to bottom, if that's what you're oddly trying to suggest. And it's not the worst its been in 40 years either, what a weird claim to protect the manager
We have a mediocre squad on big money who have too much player power. The club has tried sacking countless managers but the culture in the squad remains.
Ok, which squad in the last 40 years was worse than this?
Happy with that. The attitude in the squad stinks and has done for ages.
That's what happens when we claim to still be the biggest club in the world while having absolutely nothing to back that up on the pitch for nearly 7 years running now. Add on the fact our biggest and most direct rivals are having their own golden era runs at the same time and the fanbase is understandably on edge more often than not.
The fervor wouldn't be so intense if we dropped the pretenses about the clubs expectations and aims as the moves we've made in terms of the clubs management hardly paint a picture of us being serious about competing with the elite for trophies
Sure but it’s all relative to expectations, we are not the team we once were but there’s no point just living in a shroud of misery as it’s just depressing to be around. This story is clearly bollocks and just screams of the media kicking a man when he’s down. A win against Newcastle and suddenly the sky is blue again.
Not really. Most recent victories have been appalling performances.
Top players do it week in week out. Not a handful of good games every 6 months.
Greenwood aside (because everyone would take him on potential quality), none of the others get into the top teams in Europe.
We had a better squad when Van Gaal was here.
Not sure why you bring nationality into this?
Anyway, a huge clear out and rebuild is exactly what the club is crying out for. Regardless of who is the manager.
I'm not saying we should, just giving context as to why things have gotten to this stage.
I'm optimistic about the club when I see something to be optimistic about or have a feeling that we're building towards something good.
For a few months towards the end of last season and the start of the summer, I was feeling as optimistic as ever about the state of the club thinking we had turned a corner finally only to see the club subsequently revert to the same old self-defeating practices that have led us in our current predicament.
I believe the mood around the fanbase and media is reflective of what's being exhibited at the club right now so I'm not at all surprised or thinking the concerns and mood are u justified. When things are going well on the pitch and off the entire vibe changes accordingly and it's always been that way.
Yeh that’s fair enough and I’m not trying to say we should all sit with our fingers in our ears pretending everything is perfect as it’s clearly not the case. What irks me is people believing a story which is pure nonsense just to add to the weight of negativity. There’s no need.
We seem to be perpetually in a state of rebuild. Trotsky would admire our Permanent Revolution credentials.
I’d rather we attempted to make the best of what we’ve got for a little while. Rather than get excited about new signings and then decide that they’re filthy traitors five minutes later. Let‘s trust Ole to do this for a bit longer.
I'm not talking about the previous mangers, but it's clear before these reports surfaced that the current one has zero managerial pedigree to warrant his position at the club.
News of players doubting him is wholly unsurprising. I'm not entertaining your question about squad quality because with all due respect, I think the view is a pile of bollocks.
Irrelevant to what i'm saying
If it's such bollocks you'd easily be able to name a worse squad in the last 40 years... but you can't.
Also needs to look at himself, his passing has been fecking awful.
Shock!
This is the best squad we've had for the entirety of the post SAF era. Our CM is stronger than it's been for a long time. Our defense hasn't actually lost anyone bar Smalling, it's been the same people here, just being added on top of each other. As for our attack, I would have Rashford/Martial/Greenwood over any attack we've had since SAF left.
Vangle's squad during this tenure here was worse than this. Mourinho's squad was worse than this. Hell, Ole's squad when he just started out was worse than this. Moyes is debatable since he inherited the former champions, but a lot of them were on the way down.
Of course I can, I'm just not entertaining the bullshit. You can take the squad LVG left behind as one example, the squad SAF inherited as another. You can point to Jose's squad too.
And no, its not irrelevant to what you're saying at all. You're trying to claim the squad is shit when it's actually the manager doing a poor job.
Yep. Even the Maguire bust up was just Bruno having a go at an underperforming player, which the media has turned into a big drama. This squad, while obviously pretty low on genuine quality, is quite clearly a tight-knit one.Even more nonsense are those pulling out an issue or claiming friction between players and supposed rival dressing room camps straight out of their behinds and running with it when there's been nothing of the sort reported or even implied by anyone associated to the club outside of the Maguire bust up
Most likely scenario would be Bruno not being a total fan of Ole's conservative tactics and would rant to some of his NT mates during international break, and somehow this piece of gossip travelled to the Portuguese media and got blown out of proportion. Anyhoo, still not a good thing if our players don't have total faith in the manager.
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What a shocker!! Turns out the media and that baldy Castles were making up stuff!!! Who could have possibly fallen for this for the umpteenth time? Oh yeah, I forgot, there are a few with an agenda who will believe anything as long as it fits the narrative in their head.
Go on Bruno lad.
So the next question really should be who is the dressing room leak? Been too many of these over the years.
So the next question really should be who is the dressing room leak? Been too many of these over the years.
Have you read what Bruno says in the article?
Clearly something was said but it has been twisted and blown out of proportion.
Must be why Scott McTominay went out of his way yesterday to explain the players stance on Ole and the coaching staff.
We're off to a shaky start, if you think the players and the staff for that matter won't have opinions on what could have gone better and should have been better, I don't know what to tell you.
What the actual f is up with a run of 3 games and everyone genuinely belives that everyone are losing faith in the manager and coaching staff?
After Bruno came in, the club went on the best defensive run in world football in 2020, and had a nearly as good offesive and point record. Will Bruno have opinons about his place of employment? Would be REALLY weird if he didnt. Will he have completely lost faith in the project after 14 day of football? Of course not.
I don't care if he got a few transfer details right, Castles knows feck all.
Good lad Bruno.
Good lad Bruno.
Wow I would never have guessed it.
People jumping on this who want the manager sacked.
The media are a disgrace and create an environment far more difficult for us to progress than it should be, the pressure and hysteria around the club and managers in particular is a joke.
Doesn’t help that most people who buy into this rubbish are our own fans, sadly sections will have wanted this to happen just to add pressure on the manager. Seen it all before.