Newcastle United 1:4 Manchester United

TheGame · Oct 15, 2020

-----------------------DDG
AWB ----- Bailly ----- Maguire -----Telles
------------------------Fred----DVB-------------------
-------------Pogba ------Bruno ----- Rashford
---------------------Greenwood

Think Pogba with a Mata style roaming role can do well in an attacking sense.

TrustInJanuzaj · Oct 15, 2020

It’s all well and good saying the midfield diamond is too narrow but until we give it a proper go we can’t say it won’t work with certainty. We have the perfect midfield personnel for it to work in my opinion ans it’s up to Ole to make it work tactically. The only time we tried it against Everton I thought we played some great football at times.

FootyGirl88 · Oct 15, 2020

I would go with Bailly, Lindeolf at the back. Maguire can't be trusted at the moment.

The Boy · Oct 15, 2020

If I was Ole....

Henderson

AWB Lindelof Bailley Shaw

Matic

Fernandes DvB

Greenwood Martial Rashford

Subs: DDG Telles Maguire Fred McT James Cavani (if available)

AngeloHenriquez · Oct 15, 2020

Who is out injured for us right now? Also, which of the 3 new signings that are joining now are eligible to play any minutes? (Presuming Cavani can't)

FootyGirl88 · Oct 15, 2020

AngeloHenriquez said:
Who is out injured for us right now? Also, which of the 3 new signings that are joining now are eligible to play any minutes? (Presuming Cavani can't)

I think its just Jones tbh

AngeloHenriquez · Oct 15, 2020

FootyGirl88 said:
I think its just Jones tbh

Didn't know if Tuanzabe was available or if Pellistri or Telles would make it?

FootyGirl88 · Oct 15, 2020

AngeloHenriquez said:
Didn't know if Tuanzabe was available or if Pellistri or Telles would make it?

Those guys are all fit, but i think its a case of match fitness.

sparx99 · Oct 15, 2020

TheGame said:
-----------------------DDG
AWB ----- Bailly ----- Maguire -----Telles
------------------------Fred----DVB-------------------
-------------Pogba ------Bruno ----- Rashford
---------------------Greenwood

Think Pogba with a Mata style roaming role can do well in an attacking sense.

I'd like to see something like this when everyone is available (Maguire back in when he has sorted himself out).

-----------------------DDG
AWB ----- Bailly/Axel ----- Lindelof -----Telles
------------------------Fred-------------------------------
---------------Bruno --------DVB----------------------
Greenwood-------------------------------Rashford
--------------------------Martial----------------------------

For the weekend I'd play a diamond midfield.

------------------------------Fred---------------------------------
---------------Bruno--------------------Pogba---------------
------------------------------DVB---------------------------------
-----------Greenwood----------Rashford----------------

Schmeichel's Cartwheel · Oct 15, 2020

sparx99 said:
I'd like to see something like this when everyone is available (Maguire back in when he has sorted himself out).

-----------------------DDG
AWB ----- Bailly/Axel ----- Lindelof -----Telles
------------------------Fred-------------------------------
---------------Bruno --------DVB----------------------
Greenwood-------------------------------Rashford
--------------------------Martial----------------------------

For the weekend I'd play a diamond midfield.

------------------------------Fred---------------------------------
---------------Bruno--------------------Pogba---------------
------------------------------DVB---------------------------------
-----------Greenwood----------Rashford----------------

Axel hasn’t played in nearly a year. Starting him in a high pressure away game is a recipe for disaster. I’d give him 20 minutes if we’re winning.

Reddevil1978 · Oct 15, 2020

I would like to see this.

---------------Henderson--------------
AWB---Lindleof----Shaw---Telles
-------Bruno----Fred-----VDB--------
--------------------Mata---------------------
-----Greenwood---Rashford---------

Bruno, Fred and VDB providing
a hard working midfield.
Creativity with Bruno, Mata and VDB.

Potential crosses from Bruno who can also firm up the right-hand side.
Same with Telles on the left-hand side.

Henderson because why not, let's see if he shines, can't be worse than DDG.

Or
---------------Henderson--------------
AWB---Lindleof----Shaw---Telles
-------Mata----Fred-----VDB--------
-------------------Bruno---------------------
------------Ighalo---Rashford---------

Ighalo because he offers something different, holdup play/aerial threat, movement.

Sub on Pogba for Bruno
Mctominay for Mata
Greenwood for whoever is playing worse out of Ighalo/Rashford.

youngrell · Oct 15, 2020

Bruce usually likes to roll over for us, we could do with a bit of that this weekend to get our season back up and running.

Hoping to get a look at Telles at some point, and some decent minutes for VDB.

McGrathsipan · Oct 15, 2020

youngrell said:
Bruce usually likes to roll over for us, we could do with a bit of that this weekend to get our season back up and running.

Hoping to get a look at Telles at some point, and some decent minutes for VDB.

Bruce is going to pummel us this weekend.
Fully expecting the Joelintons of this world to piss through our defence like a finger through soggy bog roll.

Ole to be out of a job by Monday morning.

Or Ole can do the right thing and drop Martial, Pogba and co and play a team of players that will actually make an effort. We might get a point then

Gordon S · Oct 15, 2020

Marcus said:
My Team:

-----------------------DDG
AWB ----- Bailly ----- Maguire ----- Shaw
------------------------Fred--Matic
-------------DVB ------Bruno ----- Rashford
---------------------Greenwood

Yeah, i think this works better, Fred and Matic can share the load and both can act a bit more as box to box

Adcuth · Oct 15, 2020

Rest Harry, play Mengi. See how the lad does

Red00012 · Oct 15, 2020

croadyman said:
Did you mean the Ivory Coast one

The league game but he’s injured now isn’t he ?

croadyman · Oct 15, 2020

Red00012 said:
The league game but he’s injured now isn’t he ?

Looked like he was but played their entire game last night and was apparently MOTM

Kaos · Oct 15, 2020

The Boy said:
If I was Ole....

Henderson

AWB Lindelof Bailley Shaw

Matic

Fernandes DvB

Greenwood Martial Rashford

Subs: DDG Telles Maguire Fred McT James Cavani (if available)

Martial is suspended and Cavani is definitely unavailable and still in isolation.

Gandalf · Oct 15, 2020

Cavani and Martial unavailable and I am assuming that Telles won't be rushed in considering he was in South America playing on Tuesday and will not train with the squad until tomorrow. I also would not drop Maguire as although he is clearly struggling I think losing his place at this point might finish him off, he needs to man up and play through his issues. With Maguire in I would restore Lindelöf as his partner purely on the basis that the partnership is more established and so should help Harry to find his feet in the game.

DDG
AWB Lindelöf Maguire Shaw
Pogba VDB
Fernandes
Mata Greenwood Rashford

On the off chance Ole does decide to go with Telles I would switch to a back 3 so that our midfield does not have so much defensive responsibility and I would line up like this.

DDG
Lindelöf Maguire Shaw
Williams Pogba VDB Telles
Fernandes
Greenwood Rashford

sparx99 · Oct 15, 2020

McGrathsipan said:
Bruce is going to pummel us this weekend.
Fully expecting the Joelintons of this world to piss through our defence like a finger through soggy bog roll.

Ole to be out of a job by Monday morning.

Or Ole can do the right thing and drop Martial, Pogba and co and play a team of players that will actually make an effort. We might get a point then

Martial will be banned anyway

red_de_pologne · Oct 15, 2020

Can't imagine he'd start Maguire and Pogba and bench van de Beek

Posh Red · Oct 15, 2020

Does anyone know if there is a way to pay for this game if you are not already a Sky or BT customer?

NoPace · Oct 15, 2020

quethenoo said:
It is probably flawed in a way my amateurish brain can't comprehend, and I'm sure it won't happen but makes some kind of sense to me!

I'm honestly just desperate to see Fred out there instead of Matic. I feel like at gunpoint I'd have Fred #2 on the list of players I expect to have an 8/10 performance in any given game (after Bruno) so he's #2 on the teamsheet for me now I suppose. Crazy to think De Gea has dropped out of the top 2 but Henderson looks good and more importantly, De Gea looks vulnerable. The forwards feel relatively interchangeable while Rashford is in poor form at least, and Maguire is full of mistakes and Wan-Bissaka's struggles on the ball make it hard to be sure he's significantly better than playing Williams there. But Fred, yeah, he's mobile and engaged and can pass and has been playing well since he turned the corner after his ugly first period here.

Enfant terrible · Oct 15, 2020

I am just so pissed at the moment I think I'm gonna have a breakdown if we manage to feck this up.

As I said, and probably for the reason I stated above, I hope to see some new faces. That way I could at least have some kind of excuse for them if we lose.

Fred, Scott, Brandon, Eric, Bruno, Juan must start. For the rest I don't care. I want to see some energy, winning attitude and balls on the field.

Dve · Oct 15, 2020

.................. Henderson

Bissaka - Bailly - Maguire - Shaw

........... Pogba ......... Fred

............... Fernandes

Mata .... Greenwood ... Rashford

Castia · Oct 15, 2020

Dve said:
.................. Henderson

Bissaka - Bailly - Maguire - Shaw

........... Pogba ......... Fred

............... Fernandes

Mata .... Greenwood ... Rashford

Out of all the people to drop you drop De Gea?

Pogba and Maguire have been a disgrace, I’d rather play Dan James at CB than Maguire at the minute.

McGrathsipan · Oct 15, 2020

sparx99 said:
Martial will be banned anyway

Oh yeah good shout forgot about that.
Wont be missed. One of the most frustrating players we have ever had.
Bags of talent but just not an all rounder.

McGrathsipan · Oct 15, 2020

FootyGirl88 said:
I think its just Jones tbh

The question should be.....

As well as Jones, Who else is injured?

Dve · Oct 15, 2020

Castia said:
Out of all the people to drop you drop De Gea?

Pogba and Maguire have been a disgrace, I’d rather play Dan James at CB than Maguire at the minute.

Maguire with his physicality is good to have in the box and we just need to have him up and running. I considered dropping Pogba, but I dropped Matic instead. Fred can do the dirty work. Alternatively, play McTominay and vdB.

De Gea has played 3 games in a week. And even if he made a blunder in the last game, I´m not saying that I want to change the keeper permanently, but I think Henderson has a fair chance to get his first start in the PL.

Inigo Montoya · Oct 15, 2020

TheGame said:
-----------------------DDG
AWB ----- Bailly ----- Maguire -----Telles
------------------------Fred----DVB-------------------
-------------Pogba ------Bruno ----- Rashford
---------------------Greenwood

Think Pogba with a Mata style roaming role can do well in an attacking sense.

As long as you keep him away from our penalty area, that'll suit me just fine

Sea-Cow · Oct 15, 2020

red_de_pologne said:
Can't imagine he'd start Maguire and Pogba and bench van de Beek

Haha of course he will start Pogba. He will shoehorn Pogba in no matter how awful he has been. Same with Bruno, and same with Rashford. If they say they're fit, they will start. If they give the ball away every time they have it, and make no defensive contributions whatsoever, they will start the next game. And the one after.

Sea-Cow · Oct 15, 2020

TheGame said:
-----------------------DDG
AWB ----- Bailly ----- Maguire -----Telles
------------------------Fred----DVB-------------------
-------------Pogba ------Bruno ----- Rashford
---------------------Greenwood

Think Pogba with a Mata style roaming role can do well in an attacking sense.

You might be right with that. Just take away his defensive responsibilities completely, because he isn't doing them anyway. At least now the other lads won't expect him to track runners or make tackles.

Can DVB play in a deeper role? That would help.

And I think putting Greenwood out there as a number 9 right now, at this stage of his development, is almost unkind. He will get brushed aside by their CBs so so so easily. He just isn't physically mature enough to battle against 3 CBs. If they even play 3 CBs. But they might have watched our recent attacking performances and decided that extra caution isn't necessary. Just go 4-4-2 and play us off the park with effort and balls.

I really wish Cavani could come in straight away. But if he can't, it has to be either Rashford or Ighalo.

Speaking of which, did Ighalo play any internationals? I don't recall his nationality right now.

Foxbatt · Oct 15, 2020

El B said:
People keep suggesting a 442 with a diamond in midfield, and I don't understand it. In theory it gets our best players all on the pitch together but look at our performances so far, inc the cup games. Every single game the other team has dropped into a low block and made themselves narrow because they know we have nothing on the flanks to threaten with. Playing a narrow 442, playing a 352, whatever it may be and expecting Shaw and AWB to stretch teams is nonsense.

Ole will play the same system he always plays. Greenwood will probably move up top and James or Mata will play on the right. And it will be awful. Bruce will have seen how we've struggled and he'll make sure his players are organised and up for it.

A diamond is not really narrow. A diamond is not how the players start at the kick off. A diamond is the option of playing three options to the player who has the ball. How the whole team moves. Have a look at the explanation of Johan Cruijff on youtube.

Andycoleno9 · Oct 16, 2020

We conceded 11 goals in 3 games and we are in bad shape. Ole will go ultra defensive, i am 100% sure. 352 iils nailed thing in this match.
This will be ugly match to watch.

Feed Me · Oct 16, 2020

I enjoyed the last fortnight immensely and, tbh, am gutted that United are back in our lives.

Feed Me · Oct 16, 2020

Andycoleno9 said:
We conceded 11 goals in 3 games and we are in bad shape. Ole will go ultra defensive, i am 100% sure. 352 iils nailed thing in this match.
This will be ugly match to watch.

Luckily we are on PPV, so I won’t be watching :lol:

Berbasbullet · Oct 16, 2020

Is this on tv?

Spark · Oct 16, 2020

Berbasbullet said:
Is this on tv?

For £15 I believe...

Focusmate · Oct 16, 2020

Think we will this comfy. 3 or 4 goals.
And we need to - very tough run after this and if we dont get the 3 points....

soapythecat · Oct 16, 2020

No way Ole will have a go at Newcastle. It will be very dull and tight. Ole needs 3 points to save his job as we won’t pick up much more in the coming fixtures - whole squad out of form and low in confidence.
Ole is a fortunate manager and I expect we will win 1-2 with a penalty or two.

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