Let's be honest, Having players in the sort of form Kane and Son are in is exactly the sort of difference maker that can win you the league. They look contenders to me.
PL Weekend Fixtures 17/10/20 - 19/10/20
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik and Imran hold a long overdue conversation about United's awful league form with 1 win in 7. They discuss a disappointing draw at Bournemouth, a not so disappointing draw against Liverpool and a crushing defeat at Chelsea - Is time nearly over for Erik Ten Hag?
Then in a special second half of the pod, Nik welcomes Natalie ( https://twitter.com/natalie_17) to discuss the fortunes of Manchester United Women as they booked a place in the FA Cup Final after a historic first ever win vs. Chelsea.
Best football in a long time, love spanking the Hammers! COYS
Is Mourinho really managing this Spurs team or have I been hallucinating?
I still reckon he'll suck the life out of them by Jan mind.
I still reckon he'll suck the life out of them by Jan mind.
Did Spurs win the league or something? Narrative fairly changed in 3-4 games.
Theyve a good squad but you'd thing they were 6 points clear in January with the swing on here.
Theyve a good squad but you'd thing they were 6 points clear in January with the swing on here.
Maybe, maybe not. Remember when Jose put Pogba on the bench? All the fanbois crying for Jose to be sacked, and soon as he was Pogba was to become best ever player. Still waiting for it.. so if he sold Pogba it would have been riots among United fans. Now they are opening their eyes, slowly but firmly.
Differenc beetween Jose Spurs and Jose United is the CEO. Levy is CEO/Chairman/President (whatever) of a football club, Woodward is CEO of the marketing agency, where being marketable celebrity is more important than being footbal player.
Because it's been 5 poxy games, Everton are 1st and Villa are in the top 4.
It's far too early for this type of talk. We'll know what's what by the New Year.
Is that why he's won so many trophies ? I mean, comparing to Woody it's not exactly a high bar, but lets not overrate Levy as some sort of mastermind. He's a businessman, a rather shrewd one at that, but his recruiting department takes most of the credit. Levy is just good at knowing when to sell at the highest price.
Spurs had zero depth because Levy started dicking Poch around with money available for transfers. Remember that Summer window where zero players came in? We would have been tearing the place apart had that happened this Summer. Mentally, Poch was shot after the Champions League final and it was the right time for him to go after that. But, all of this talk about Jose suddenly working miracles is just, imo, extremely premature. They're playing great football right now, but they played great football under the last manager, too. These are good players. We'll see where we are in 5 or 6 months time with Jose. It's all part of the cycle where things look amazing at first and then quickly deteriorate. We should certainly know that.
I'm not saying that Jose isn't a good manager, because I do believe that he is. I'm saying that he isn't the reason why Spurs are playing like they are right now.
The framework that Poch left for Jose is much easier to work with than the framework that Jose left for us. Imo, of course.
Already with the Spurs winning the league talk 
Way too early, for now I'd say Top 4 contention for sure. Maybe even a Cup run? But I'm still fully expecting City to get their act together.
Way too early, for now I'd say Top 4 contention for sure. Maybe even a Cup run? But I'm still fully expecting City to get their act together.
Woodward dreams about being Daniel Levy.
Also, what's encouraging about Spurs is that they have a strong bond and aren't reliant on their fans being there to perform. It's similar to Liverpool and City (on account of them not actually needing fans to win).
Everyone needs to calm down! If they are up there in December/January then anything can happen. All teams in Europe will have a disadvantage in the league until the group stage is over and whichever team comes out of this period on top will have good chances.
Spurs are looking great at the moment but people should know leagues are not won in October or November.
Spurs are looking great at the moment but people should know leagues are not won in October or November.
There are already signs that City are getting it together.Already with the Spurs winning the league talk
Way too early, for now I'd say Top 4 contention for sure. Maybe even a Cup run? But I'm still fully expecting City to get their act together.
Ndombele starting to show what he has got.
And much easier than the one LVG left for Jose. I've said it all along that Spurs have a much better and balanced side than us over the years, and Jose actually did pretty well with them at the start. I remember because when I suggested bounce, some spurs fans piped up and said its been going on for nearly a year.
They drew Newcastle and lost against Everton (even though I admit Everton are doing well). It's only West Ham, let them play more serious contenders then I will see...
But they in the Europa league and that'll hinder them too especially when the fixtures come thick and fast. I expect injuries and they will be as light as a feather again with Mourinho moaning come winter. I don't think they will win the league but are serious contender for top 4.
Edit: also Mourinho plays his first 11 in all competitions as he wants a trophy. That will also play a big role in terms of fitness and tiredness. They are not just going to focus on the PL only.
Spurs are rubbish, no goal in 30ish minutes. They will get relegated.
I don't think any English team (certainly PL era) has gone deep in the Europa and won the domestic league.
For Spurs to win the league, Liverpool and City both need to drop a lot of points and can't see that happening. But they are on course to win a domestic cup which would be a start for Jose.
For Spurs to win the league, Liverpool and City both need to drop a lot of points and can't see that happening. But they are on course to win a domestic cup which would be a start for Jose.
I'll accept that. It'll be interesting to see how they manage the demands of all the competitions.
Hopefully they don't win the league cup as I think a single trophy would be enough for Mou to throw the others.
Chelsea squad at this time had Fabregas, Costa and Hazard too in terms of attack, but it's the defence in which this Chelsea was much better than current Spurs team in terms of quality.
Miles? Joking, right? Liverpool have just shipped 10 goals in 2 matches. They still have the lethal Salah-Mane partnership, one of the best three alongside Kane-Son and Sterling-Aguero (when fit). But they have developed flaws and weaknesses in other areas esp defence. For me the 2018/19 Liverpool is their best in recent years, even better than their title-winning team.
I swear to jaysus the amount of knee jerking so far this season is unreal.
Well that pretty obvious because Kane is a better player and on fire at the moment.
I think people are looking at it more as 5 years of Spurs threatening to do something. Now they have an established trophy winning manager and its currently like a match made in Heaven. Everton and Villa are anomalies. Spurs steamrolling teams is what many have been predicting and now its happening.
True. Their defense is just average at best, especially their CB's.
Reguillon's just an absolutely brilliant modern full-back. He'll be so valuable for Spurs this season.
You somehow ignore the game against Utd?
Well, a 14th placed team isn't exactly a serious contender
They play really good. Lost points vs Newcastle where they had 25 shots and Newcastle had one or two and against Everton in even match. In other games they were trashing teams.
If they are grinding results in Jose way then ok but this looks pretty impressive
Liverpool started in a fashion where people were convinced they were going to walk it.
City were being summarily written off.
Spurs started shakily but look to have built momentum with two games.
It’s going to be one of those seasons, which is why I’d love us to grow a pair and win against Chelsea and Arsenal – two games that could give us great momentum.
We were rubbish and down to 10 men, but I won't use that as an excuse as I still think they would have beaten us. If anything it shows they will be our competition for top 4 though. Not quite City and Pool level though.
Completely agree. Brilliant creator, brilliant dribbler and above all, world class goalscorer.
The difference at Spurs is that he's taking on a team that has been brilliantly coached by Pochettino.
Anyway people are overreacting. We've also had incredible form under various coaches. Son and Kane have been performing for years and it's won them feck all. The max I see them winning is a domestic cup.
2nd year Mou is good. Was good with us too. 3rd year Mou sucks.
They did play well against Newcastle, though. It was just their finishing was off and they had a dodgy penalty decision against them. The signs were there in that game, though.
He seems willing to rest players; Kane nor Son started against Chelsea in the League Cup. He seems to mix up the team quite a bit this season.
Hammers havnt been bad really. Just dealing with Son and Kane is not easy. Kane's cheeky nutmeg then shot between someone's legs was pure sauce.
The Everton game wasn't even, Everton were easily the better team in that match.
Them leaving Reguilon alone for his assist was criminal, especially when they are set up to defend. Don't mistake possession for doing well, Spurs are letting them have the ball because they are doing feck all with it.
I'm not sure dude, I struggle to see either City or Liverpool cracking 85 points currently and if they finish around 81-82 Jose could well have one of those seasons. I don't think they will but I always wouldn't put my house against it.
A superb assist by Reguilon for Kane's second. Great cross. Your turn, Luke Shaw.