Marcus Rashford is the most valuable player in our squad

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Don't totally agree with this. Aside from the goal, he was abysmal attacking last night. His decision making was awful. I agree his pace was awesome, but aside from that, there wasn't much else he offered.
His movement and dribbling was really good to get in the dangerous positions. Yeah its true he made bad decisions but off days happen, what's important is to still be in those positions when you have the off days which he was. Just a brilliant player these days.
 

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Still wildly inconsistent. For every good thing he does he'll make three mistakes.

He really needs to work on his decision making in the final third. Too often he runs down dead ends or doesn't look up before shooting or crossing.

His drive an determination are invaluable though. He had PSGs defenders on edge all game because of his pace and his constant pressing of their back line paid off in the end with and excellent finish.

Still need to iron out a few wrinkles in his game before I'd place him in the top bracket, but he certainly has the ability to reach that level.
 

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That what top players do, though. Have shite games but have the ability to change it in the blink of any eye with something special.
Have to agree, I actually think it's a great sign that he did this in a big game. Previously he's usually either played well in a game or been poor and not contributed much. In this one he was largely poor but still won the game for us. That's what Ronaldo learned how to do for us at about 21-22 as well, albeit he was a better player.
 

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I think if you were to sell all our players tomorrow... you actually probably would get the most money for Rashford.
 

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His movement and dribbling was really good to get in the dangerous positions. Yeah its true he made bad decisions but off days happen, what's important is to still be in those positions when you have the off days which he was. Just a brilliant player these days.
It's not just off days though, he's so inconsistent. I said it in the matchday thread, swap him and Martial for the likes of Haaland and Sancho and we would have had 4/5 last night. When he plays well, he's a top player, but his inconsistency and decision making is one of the reasons why we won't be challenging for the title or cl
 

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Still wildly inconsistent. For every good thing he does he'll make three mistakes.
Well, that's still better than Mbappe in big CL games who does almost never anything good and who makes numerous mistakes.
 

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It's not just off days though, he's so inconsistent. I said it in the matchday thread, swap him and Martial for the likes of Haaland and Sancho and we would have had 4/5 last night. When he plays well, he's a top player, but his inconsistency and decision making is one of the reasons why we won't be challenging for the title or cl

I can almost guarantee that you haven't seen Sancho play at all if you think that his decision making is better than Rashford.
 

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For all the criticism he's receiving he's on 6 G+A in 7 games. His technique might be inconsistent but his productivity has come on leaps and bounds since Solskjaer took over. Yeah, his decision making is a bit questionable at times but he's only 22, I've no doubt he'll iron out the flaws in his game soon enough.
 

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I can almost guarantee that you haven't seen Sancho play at all if you think that his decision making is better than Rashford.
Joke right? I have watched Sancho, I've watched a lot of him since we have been linked with him and he certainly would've grabbed one of the clean-cut chances Rashford had.
 

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Even if his decision making is still a little bit erratic, him and Bruno are by far our most important attacking players for us. We need him in form and scoring if we want to do anything this season.
 

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Anyone guess how much it cost to buy such a player on the market?

Pre and post COVID-19 prices?

surely more than players like Felix, Dembele or Sancho?
 

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I think he is maturing a bit now and showing that he can keep going even when playing poorly. Post restart I don’t think he played very well but he was getting assists in and contributing something in a game instead of it all passing him by. Last night he had a few bad moments up front and perhaps thought too much when he had the ball. At the end he changed it up and hit the shot early instead of trying over engineer it. It was a fantastic finish and showed that he can learn during a game and put the knowledge to use. I think we are seeing Rashford become a more complete player now and I would expect him to become more consistent. The ability to contribute even when playing badly is a valuable asset and will help him avoid the troughs in his form
 

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Love Marcus, he's maturing into a real force
He's been around so long that we take how young he is for granted, he's still a couple of years away from his peak years at which point he could be a monster.

Thought Rio made a good point after the game about him being more single minded rather than looking for the assist sometimes, this is also something Martial does too but on the other hand if they both developed a more single minded approach it may well negatively affect the other. As it stands they seem to enjoy helping each other

Great finish last night, what a moment
 

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He absolutely demolishes Sancho.

Yet there is people talking about inconsistencies. :houllier:

How often is our team consistent? People talk like our team,tactics, performances is always perfect and it's always one or two players letting us down.

Even though our strikers looked out of form yesterday one managed to get the damn penalty and another scored a wonderful winning goal.

We dont need to sell anyone or bad mouth anyone, there is enough room in this squad for the players most of the fans salivate for anyway.

Attacking RB, Big physical in the box striker, A RW, CDM and CB'S. All will happen without needing to plummet our current players under a bus.
 

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Well, that's still better than Mbappe in big CL games who does almost never anything good and who makes numerous mistakes.
Its the types of mistakes though isnt it? The thing with Rashford for me is, one moment he will do something that a championship player shouldn't do, then the next he will score a worldy. You dont get these high/low levels with the likes of Mbappe.

For example, The miss Mbappe had in the final from the Herrera cut back, it was a bad execution but you dont question the thinking behind it. Rashford does things that defy any logic, like the pass to Martial yesterday.
 

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Its the types of mistakes though isnt it? The thing with Rashford for me is, one moment he will do something that a championship player shouldn't do, then the next he will score a worldy. You dont get these high/low levels with the likes of Mbappe.

For example, The miss Mbappe had in the final from the Herrera cut back, it was a bad execution but you dont question the thinking behind it. Rashford does things that defy any logic, like the pass to Martial yesterday.
So in your mind he is worse than Mbappe. So what?
Its the types of mistakes though isnt it? The thing with Rashford for me is, one moment he will do something that a championship player shouldn't do, then the next he will score a worldy. You dont get these high/low levels with the likes of Mbappe.

For example, The miss Mbappe had in the final from the Herrera cut back, it was a bad execution but you dont question the thinking behind it. Rashford does things that defy any logic, like the pass to Martial yesterday.
It kind of enjoys me that you will have to suffer watching Rashford if you think he is an inconsistent 22 year old footballer.

He isnt going anywhere and he wont be sold, I even doubt that even if we get world class strikers that Rashford will struggle to demote them or play next to them. There are at times when you look from a players debut on and see that aslong as they progress, they will be a player of this club. The only thing that holds back on this is a very serious injury to his back which medically can effect his movement like it did to RVP.

The players you are comparing him with is Mbappe and Haaland for god sake.
 

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Rio was saying he has to start getting the scrappy goals to become world class and made an interesting comparison to Rooney, who we all know added that to his game.

Its a numbers game now for Rashford. We all know he has the raw talent and turn of pace, but once he's banging in 25 a season, we have a gem on our hands.

BTW, how old was Bale when he broke through? I can see some similarities in their skill sets.
 

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So in your mind he is worse than Mbappe. So what?


It kind of enjoys me that you will have to suffer watching Rashford if you think he is an inconsistent 22 year old footballer.

He isnt going anywhere and he wont be sold, I even doubt that even if we get world class strikers that Rashford will struggle to demote them or play next to them. There are at times when you look from a players debut on and see that aslong as they progress, they will be a player of this club. The only thing that holds back on this is a very serious injury to his back which medically can effect his movement like it did to RVP.

The players you are comparing him with is Mbappe and Haaland for god sake.
Someone else brought Mbappe up not me.
 

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I can almost guarantee that you haven't seen Sancho play at all if you think that his decision making is better than Rashford.
True but his ability with the ball is much much higher.
 

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He doesn’t look sharp at all at the moment (the goal aside). Top players look sharp more consistently than Rashford does. I think he can get there though.

People love to say it doesn’t matter so long as they get the goal but that’s not true. As a team we look much better when everyone is focussed and we’re obviously more likely to win games more consistently.
 

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Sometimes when Rashford screws up he looks so sad, like he is incredibly disappointed in himself. I feel kinda bad for him when he makes the wrong decision, I think he is very harsh on himself. Me being a body language expert think he should cut himself some slack, if he misses a clear cut opportunity I want to see him laugh, or smile, not look utterly devestated. This guy needs to be high on confidence to be at his absolute best.

Either way, this guy always has a goal in him and he stepped up when we need him the most versus PSG. He's from the academy, he's our number 10, and he is a good character, so I'd definitely put him amongst Bruno as our most valuable players.
 

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Joke right? I have watched Sancho, I've watched a lot of him since we have been linked with him and he certainly would've grabbed one of the clean-cut chances Rashford had.
There's no certainty, only an opinion.

Henry,Robben,Higuain et al have all missed clear cut chances in major games. The true assessment is the strength of character to bounce back, forget about the missed chances and score the next one.
 

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Sometimes when Rashford screws up he looks so sad, like he is incredibly disappointed in himself. I feel kinda bad for him when he makes the wrong decision, I think he is very harsh on himself. Me being a body language expert think he should cut himself some slack, if he misses a clear cut opportunity I want to see him laugh, or smile, not look utterly devestated. This guy needs to be high on confidence to be at his absolute best.

Either way, this guy always has a goal in him and he stepped up when we need him the most versus PSG. He's from the academy, he's our number 10, and he is a good character, so I'd definitely put him amongst Bruno as our most valuable players.
Is that you Jose?
 

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Rashford reminds me of Cavani, in the way as long as it's direct and simple he can be absolutely lethal.

But in a typical 2 vs 1 situation he's probably not one of those player I would count on. If I was a defender I would dare him to pass the ball because he still not have the consistency and the general poise to pass the ball at the right time.

Let's not forget the kid is one week away from being 23, playing in a inconsistent team and having to do the main job upfront. Players like Henry or Suarez only mastered their craft at 25/26 years old even though they were pro since 18 like Marcus.
 

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He's an excellent player. Sometimes he can be frustrating and his decision making isn't spot on. But I don't look at it necessarily as chances he's missed, I would look at in from the perspective of how many times he gets himself in those positions.

His mentality is also excellent I feel. He is a player who will keep pushing and pushing to the end of the match to create something. We had these kinds of players in spades under Fergie. I know a lot of people will say this level of effort is the minimum expected from any sort of player, but it can be very difficult to keep your head cool when you have a few failed attempts. I personally am not great at it. If it doesn't work for me at a sport, I won't try any less, I'll keep going and going, but my performance usually gets worse because I get pissed off.
 
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So in your mind he is worse than Mbappe. So what?
In big CL games in the last 3 years, Rashford has been better and more decisive than Mbappe despite playing for a far weaker team than PSG, not the least in the last 2 games where they've faced each other.
Mbappe = the current most overrated player by a mile
Rashford= one of the most underrated players around
 

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Hold on, post lockdown he was well below par and Martial was on fire and better than Mbappe, now it's the other way round?

Form is temporary and class is permanent, they are both class players. That is all.
Mbappe is widely overrated, just a guy who relies mostly on his unbelievable speed but against good defenses who know how to close his space or who can match his speed, he is fecking useless.
Rashford has more subtiliy in his game and can at least score goals from outside the penalty area.
 
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I do remember how a couple of years ago when he was linked with Barca, so many on here found the idea that they'd actually be interested in him hilarious.
 

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Marcus Rashford -
  • 22 years old
  • Would have scored 25 goals from out wide if not for injury last season
  • Already a bloody OBE
  • Childhood United fan from a working class family
And to think we still have some fans saying "Rashy's bubble needs to bust".