Amad “Traore“ Diallo

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So we can't have him training at Carrington?
The reason he's not with the club right now is because he doesn't have his work permit yet, so how would he be able to train in a country from which he hasn't got authorization and a permit yet?

Carrington is still in England :lol:
 

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He's actually not even training, he has to watch training sessions from home and see if he can improve by just watching training videos.
He is not even watching training sessions, kids are not allowed to watch too much TV. His dad tells him what's going on and narrates the training session.
 

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He’d be with our squad right now if it wasn’t for the work permit.

He’s probably not playing for them because he’s effectively our player now and Utd may have requested he doesn’t take part due to risk of injury. There may possibly be something in the deal which cancels the transfer if he picks up a serious injury between now and January.

Anyway, it makes more sense not to play him rather than play him.
 

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If he's not going to play, can't he come on 'holiday' to sunny Manchester and train with our team.
Not sure if that kind of thing would affect his work permit issue, but that would be a very sensible way of acclimatising and developing.
 

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Apparently Atalanta don't have a use for him even before he was sold because they don't play with wingers.
Yeah, they don't play with wingers. If he was developed player then maybe they would have used him as a CF or SS but right now they don't have any benefit in playing him.
 

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He’d be with our squad right now if it wasn’t for the work permit.

He’s probably not playing for them because he’s effectively our player now and Utd may have requested he doesn’t take part due to risk of injury. There may possibly be something in the deal which cancels the transfer if he picks up a serious injury between now and January.

Anyway, it makes more sense not to play him rather than play him.


Okay. So it really takes time to get the fecking working permit.

In that case, it would be two months without playing football, not even proper training?

I assume United at least should get him some training?
 

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Okay. So it really takes time to get the fecking working permit.

In that case, it would be two months without playing football, not even proper training?

I assume United at least should get him some training?
Calm down Bruce. Just because you don’t know the reason, doesn’t mean it’s not a good one.
 

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Does it mean he will not get any play time until he joins us in January?
That would be super weird.
Weird and if they wanted to be funny about it they could just say, 'well you aren't officially ours anymore and you aren't in our plans so we've no reason to play you!'
He'll be with us soon enough and I'm sure training isn't an issue but match fitness will be.
 

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I read something somewhere that he is waiting for an Italian passport to come through. He was smuggled into the country years ago so never had one before. As he was a young child at the time, he is able to get one now and it was not his fault he was smuggled in illegally.
 

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because he is at ballboy level right now
You’ll look pretty silly with your comments if he comes to PL and explodes. You, at the very least, sound super bitter that your club couldn’t poach him from a “smaller” Italian club. That in itself is a good sign.
 

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You’ll look pretty silly with your comments if he comes to PL and explodes. You, at the very least, sound super bitter that your club couldn’t poach him from a “smaller” Italian club. That in itself is a good sign.
Another bitter Serie A fan that is upset that a top talent has decided to leave your sub par league.
How old are you, 5 or 6? He is a kid, for which you paid €25m + €15m add-ons + 15% resale fee. Your accounting clerk probably wrote the number with one 0 too many.
 

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I'm surprised someone who was caught trolling and lying about Diallo in another thread is doing the same again.
 

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How old are you, 5 or 6? He is a kid, for which you paid €25m + €15m add-ons + 15% resale fee. Your accounting clerk probably wrote the number with one 0 too many.
Let’s break your comment down. You started by trying to insult a couple of posters. You then went on to insult the fee. You then followed that by insulting the accounting department at Man Utd. Yeah you’re right bud not bitter at all.
 

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Let’s break your comment down. You started by trying to insult a couple of posters. You then went on to insult the fee. You then followed that by insulting the accounting department at Man Utd. Yeah you’re right bud not bitter at all.
waste of post. He's flounced
 

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Just read this short piece on transfermarkt about Diallo from last year.

Seem like he is highly rated, but can't help but wonder about the fee, if he is such a gem.. it seems a bit much doesn't it.
 

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He’s only ever played about 20 minutes of first team football.

The more I look at it, the more I find it a bit odd. He hasn’t been on the Atalanta squad since January.
He was on the bench in the first 3 Serie A match squads of the season, up until the move was announced tbh

Honestly guys, On Atalanta's part why would they continue his career development plan at the club and involve in the first team if they've already sold him, say he does well as I imagine he would, then leaves in January as he will, how would that benefit them in the long run?

Clubs can be bitter as well, they already feel like they got shorted on this deal, wouldn't expect any favours from them, he still may feature albeit sparingly
 

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He was on the bench in the first 3 Serie A match squads of the season, up until the move was announced tbh

Honestly guys, On Atalanta's part why would they continue his career development plan at the club and involve in the first team if they've already sold him, say he does well as I imagine he would, then leaves in January as he will, how would that benefit them in the long run?

Clubs can be bitter as well, they already feel like they got shorted on this deal, wouldn't expect any favours from them, he still may feature albeit sparingly
I know that.

It doesn’t get away from for the fact that he has only played a very little amount of football to be bought by Manchester United.

5 times he has made the match day squad this calendar year and he hasn’t played first team football in any of those games. Yes, he was in the squad for the first 3 games of the season but he didn’t come on and this was the first time he made the squad since January.

I’m not criticising Atalanta, nor am I criticising United for the purchase, just seems a bit odd and relatively high price for someone so inexperienced.

There is no way Atalanta have been shorted on this deal.
 

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People don't seem to realize what a gem we have got in Amad. Honestly I'm surprised we've managed to get this deal done - he's the highest rated wonderkid in football.

But that's not all, his refugee background also needs to be taken into consideration. If he truly turns out to be generational like most scouts predict, Amad will be the most inspirational and marketable asset in the sport.
Is that you Ed?
 

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I know that.

It doesn’t get away from for the fact that he has only played a very little amount of football to be bought by Manchester United.

5 times he has made the match day squad this calendar year and he hasn’t played first team football in any of those games. Yes, he was in the squad for the first 3 games of the season but he didn’t come on and this was the first time he made the squad since January.

I’m not criticising Atalanta, nor am I criticising United for the purchase, just seems a bit odd and relatively high price for someone so inexperienced.

There is no way Atalanta have been shorted on this deal.
It is definitely an unprecedented deal in the football world. I couldn't find any similar deal in my memory, buying a player who has only played 20 minutes in the first team with such a big amount of money.

Real Madriad have purchased a few unpolished gems last couple of years, with money arguably higher than United paid for Diallo. But United's boldness still trump them quite a lot. Rodrigo, Vinicius, Renier, the Brazil Trio are all quite young when Real signed them as exorbitant lotteries. They all had considreably more first team experience though.

However, I trust Ole and his scouting team. He has been more than amazing in recruiting.
 

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I know that.

It doesn’t get away from for the fact that he has only played a very little amount of football to be bought by Manchester United.

5 times he has made the match day squad this calendar year and he hasn’t played first team football in any of those games. Yes, he was in the squad for the first 3 games of the season but he didn’t come on and this was the first time he made the squad since January.

I’m not criticising Atalanta, nor am I criticising United for the purchase, just seems a bit odd and relatively high price for someone so inexperienced.

There is no way Atalanta have been shorted on this deal.
This year isn't a good marker point to highlight that someone has made a team since January, when the truth is football was disbanded for over 3 months globally, not to mention he was 17 breaking into a team overachieving in Europe, so rightly so they probably felt he'd develop better getting more game time at u19 level, as they were in the UYL (still 2 years above his age group) right up until the world broke.

I can understand why people who haven't heard of him would think it's not a fair price, but this is a good investment for me personally, in terms of his potential and consistent performances in higher age groups over the past 2 seasons.

Also, Atalanta lost the highest regarded player in their academy system, the year they planned on integrating him more into their first team this season, that's not a win.

To put it in perspective, imagine United lost Mason for 20 mill at the beginning of last season, would that be a win? Hypothetical but I'm sure you get my point. At least let him arrive and play shit before you start questioning the deal haha
 
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I know that.

It doesn’t get away from for the fact that he has only played a very little amount of football to be bought by Manchester United.

5 times he has made the match day squad this calendar year and he hasn’t played first team football in any of those games. Yes, he was in the squad for the first 3 games of the season but he didn’t come on and this was the first time he made the squad since January.

I’m not criticising Atalanta, nor am I criticising United for the purchase, just seems a bit odd and relatively high price for someone so inexperienced.

There is no way Atalanta have been shorted on this deal.
Both City and Utd failed in c.35m€ bids for Mbappe in 2016, where he had a similar amount of first team experience (if he even had any at all at that point).

Some players are worth that extra cost and outlay. And we feel, rightly or wrongly, that Diallo is at that level. Really looking forward to seeing him play.