Cavani and Pogba shouldn't have come on when they did and Mata shouldn't have come off... So yes.
PL D FA Premier League
Manchester United 0:0 Chelsea
Post-match discussion
Sat, 24 October 2020
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik and Imran hold a long overdue conversation about United's awful league form with 1 win in 7. They discuss a disappointing draw at Bournemouth, a not so disappointing draw against Liverpool and a crushing defeat at Chelsea - Is time nearly over for Erik Ten Hag?
Then in a special second half of the pod, Nik welcomes Natalie ( https://twitter.com/natalie_17) to discuss the fortunes of Manchester United Women as they booked a place in the FA Cup Final after a historic first ever win vs. Chelsea.
Cowardly approach from both managers. Still should have nicked it in the end after improving in the 2nd half.
Their keeper and Silva kept them in it.
Mind you they should have had a spotter too.
Mind you they should have had a spotter too.
Well keepers are there for a reason. If Mendy is to be praised for his performance then objectively Rashford was inferior to him. It was not an awkward result, a draw was quite a fair outcome, with Chelsea being denied a stone wall penalty. 9 times out of 10 that peno is given and we are fooked.
Agree.
Our next few are not easy.
I know a draw against Chelsea is never the end of the world but that for me was a poor poor watch . The game was there for the taking if we had abit more energy around the pitch.
On a side note I've no idea what VDB has to do to get a game
On a side note I've no idea what VDB has to do to get a game
Hahaha ok. Maybe Villa and Leeds will also finish in the top 3
Exactly. Fred gets too much hate and is a very solid DMF.
Ole is still smiling and saying about European games taking a toll after the beginning of the season.
Wel Ole, it doesn’t get any easier and you have £40m sitting on the bench that you could rotate and instead you choose two players who never performed that well last season.
Now he’s blaming no crowd noise/pressure.
Boring game, I think a draw is a correct result, both teams didn't want to loose. I think a lot of fans are happy with the game of BF in my opinion he will have for his doing very good passing % this game. But I didn't, I think he didn't take a lot of risks and so we didn't create enough chances to put one behind Chelsea. To be positive the 0 is of the scoreboard in home games this season and De Gea kept a clean sheet.
Ole is going to rinse this PSG result for months.
To be fair that game isn't the slow snoozefest with a full stadium. Today it was painfully evident what an atmosphere sucker this current situation is.
Starting line up: Would have gone with Cavani or Greenwood instead of James, otherwise fine.
Tactics: could've been a bit more adventurous
Performance: first half really poor, 2nd half ok.
Overall lacking intensity, but not worth crying about. We never looked like losing.
Tactics: could've been a bit more adventurous
Performance: first half really poor, 2nd half ok.
Overall lacking intensity, but not worth crying about. We never looked like losing.
He just offers nothing going forward, nothing at all.
When neither your full backs or wingers can get down the line and put in a decent cross you are going to struggle. Look at pool and amount of goals they get from wide areas.
Playing for a draw when he knows a loss here would break him and a bit of our spirit. 7 points from 5 games is chronic
The whole team did for the last one.
I hate to say it. Rashford isn't much of a threat on his own. Given space, maybe. But for the most part, he is too passive when he doesn't have direct interaction with the ball and too undecisive when given the chance to take action. I feel the same way about Martial, even though he is better in possession. It's one of the reason's Greenwood will be much better than those two. When Greenwood has the ball in and around the box, he's usually crafting a quick decision, and even if the decision doesn't go as planned, he won't delay it the next time. He plans his moves ahead of time.
The reason I am saying this is because I felt our defence were very good in handling Chelsea's attack, but I don't think chelsea's defence had to worry nearly as much as ours did when being directly attacked. When Werner, Havertz or Pulisic were given a good pass from their midfield and they had the advantage in space, they were very aggressive and almost created something out of it. However, when we gave James and Rashford ( Martial and Rashford on tuesday) the same opportunties as those players ( Mbappe, Neymar, Werner, Havertz, Pulisic), our players folded, rather than the defence stopping them.
Has he mentioned where Telles is yet?
He wasn't blaming that at all, he said that the crowd creates more urgency and intensity in football and I think that's obvious for everyone to see given the weird results so far this season.
Absolutely tipping it down, no fans and two teams not wanting to lose. Those are the reasons today was 0-0.
there were some positives - Cavani looks like he’s gonna be the poacher we need and I thought the defence were good, in particular Lindelof.
there were some positives - Cavani looks like he’s gonna be the poacher we need and I thought the defence were good, in particular Lindelof.
We do struggle breaking down these small time teams. Chelsea would probably say the same thing.
Was like a friendly until the last 5 mins. Poxy match altogether.
You seem to forget the games against CP, BHA, and Spurs. We played against a team full of potential attacking threat that haven't had a shoot? at our goal. We dominated, their gk had a great game. Grow up. We're soon gonna go on a 20+ games unbeaten run
In regards to Rashford, he scored against PSG on his own, created two and scored one against Newcastle, drew a great save from Mendy today. This comment seems a bit knee jerk.
TBH, the tough run is nearly over...Spurs, Newcastle, PSG, Chelsea, Liepzig and Arsenal. We've actually had a really difficult start to the season fixture wise. In most scenario's, I feel we would beat all of these teams. But the lack of a preaseason and tactical adjustments due have meant that we find ourselves in a position where our team has not been settled and therefore, has led to mostly poor performances, particularly defensively. We have picked it up since the Newcastle game, but it's hard to shape a team when players haven't been fit and we're playing big games every 3 days.
Most boring game I've seen in quite a while
Yeah had a feeling we wouldn't get the win when Kepa wasn't in goal
It just isn't though, is it? It's an innocuous comment after a disappointing result.
Bingo. And what a difference perhaps a certain Sancho could have made instead of starting Dan James. I think we'll be fine, but it's disappointing that we didn't strengthen more in attack.
Solskjaer: "If that Stretford End is full, we might get some help and get the ball over the line."
I am often thinking about how this situation affects the players. I am pretty sure that some of them are playing better without the fans, but it could be less motivating for others.
As the fans are usually on Daniel James back you would think an empty OT would benefit him.
There was no mention of the fans when we won our last 2 games. Its just desperate stuff tbh.
Yeah that doesn't send out the right approach to people watching at home
it was fine with the Star power ..at least you know something might happen at any moment with Cavani and Pogba..while at some point Daniel James and his pace ran head first into 3 guys in the second half..I was just not sure what he was thinking.
He forget that we have a game in hand because most teams have played one more game
Boring team selection, boring game....Dan James is absolute garbage.
that summed him up really
Disappointing game, Chelsea were clearly there for the taking as the game developed. Not because we were great, but their combinations just weren’t there and we should have pushed them further back. Two defensive units and teams going for a draw, we should never do that at home. This is not City or Liverpool on top form, this is Chelsea with a poor defensive record. Ok, they have scored a lot of goals too - obviously it was part of the gameplan. Absolute shit game and a waste of two hours, at least we didn’t lose tonight.
We haven’t won at home yet, we’re 15th in the league after five games... this isn’t Manchester United. We should charge teams and take control, we should have better patterns with such good players. We need to do better, fast!
We haven’t won at home yet, we’re 15th in the league after five games... this isn’t Manchester United. We should charge teams and take control, we should have better patterns with such good players. We need to do better, fast!
Honestly happy with that, Chelsea are a top 4 rival and we were clearly the better team. Gutted we couldn`t get the winner at the end there but Mendy was unfortunately pretty good.
Our back 4 was good again, Chelsea are really strong in attack and we didn`t allow them much. Great to see Lindelöf and Maguire getting back to form after a dreadful start to the season.
James is completely lost and can barely get the basics right atm. With players like Pogba, Donny, Greenwood in the squad it is a bit of a headscratcher that he gets so many minutes.
Our back 4 was good again, Chelsea are really strong in attack and we didn`t allow them much. Great to see Lindelöf and Maguire getting back to form after a dreadful start to the season.
James is completely lost and can barely get the basics right atm. With players like Pogba, Donny, Greenwood in the squad it is a bit of a headscratcher that he gets so many minutes.
Man of the Match
Runners-up
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10%
Fred
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10%
Aaron Wan-Bissaka
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5%
Harry Maguire
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3%
Bruno Fernandes
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3%
Marcus Rashford
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2%
Scott McTominay
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1%
David de Gea
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1%
Daniel James
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1%
Edinson Cavani
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1%
Juan Mata
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1%
Luke Shaw
Player Ratings
Total Average Rating
Highest Rated Player
Lowest Rated Player
Compiled from 286 ratings.
Score Predictions
204,34,45
- Man Utd win
- Chelsea win
- Draw
Detailed Results
- 25% Man Utd 2:1 Chelsea
- 18% Man Utd 3:1 Chelsea
- 11% Man Utd 2:0 Chelsea
- 8% Man Utd 1:1 Chelsea
- 7% Man Utd 2:2 Chelsea
- 6% Man Utd 3:2 Chelsea
- 5% Man Utd 1:2 Chelsea
- 5% Man Utd 3:0 Chelsea
- 4% Man Utd 1:0 Chelsea
- 3% Man Utd 1:3 Chelsea
- 2% Man Utd 0:2 Chelsea
- 2% Man Utd 4:1 Chelsea
- 1% Man Utd 0:5 Chelsea
- 1% Man Utd 4:2 Chelsea
- 1% Man Utd 0:0 Chelsea
- 0% Man Utd 5:0 Chelsea
- 0% Man Utd 0:3 Chelsea
- 0% Man Utd 0:4 Chelsea
- 0% Man Utd 3:3 Chelsea
- 0% Man Utd 2:3 Chelsea
Match Stats
- Man Utd
- Chelsea
- Possession
- 50% 50%
- Shots
- 14 6
- Shots on Target
- 4 1
- Corners
- 9 6
- Fouls
- 8 6
Referee
Martin Atkinson
Man Utd Lineup
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replaced by Paul Pogba
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replaced by Mason Greenwood
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replaced by Edinson Cavani
