Yeah, I remember this too. People seem to be forgetting that we had PPV PL games before. Not saying that people should be happy with paying £15 a pop, but rather that the PL/SKY have sold PPV PL games before.
Premier league matches to be shown on PPV basis via BT and Sky
- Thread starter Bojan11
- Start date
-
In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik and Imran hold a long overdue conversation about United's awful league form with 1 win in 7. They discuss a disappointing draw at Bournemouth, a not so disappointing draw against Liverpool and a crushing defeat at Chelsea - Is time nearly over for Erik Ten Hag?
Then in a special second half of the pod, Nik welcomes Natalie ( https://twitter.com/natalie_17) to discuss the fortunes of Manchester United Women as they booked a place in the FA Cup Final after a historic first ever win vs. Chelsea.
Prem Plus was back when they showed less games on tv though, I seem to remember. We've now got used to having a certain amount, rightly or wrongly, so now being asked to pay for them is a bit like.....no thank you.
Saw today that there is one game on BT, one game on Sky, and two on PPV. What an absolute fecking joke this has become.
The worst thing? If you do fork out the ridiculous amounts of money to watch football, you are bombarded with an unholy amount of adverts too. Half time consists of MAYBE 30 seconds of “analysis” padded with multiple massive advert breaks. When you are already paying stupid money for the subscriptions.
The model in this country has to change. The bubble has to burst at some point surely?
The worst thing? If you do fork out the ridiculous amounts of money to watch football, you are bombarded with an unholy amount of adverts too. Half time consists of MAYBE 30 seconds of “analysis” padded with multiple massive advert breaks. When you are already paying stupid money for the subscriptions.
The model in this country has to change. The bubble has to burst at some point surely?
It's gone from sky having their "friday night football" to now showing it on PPV, aren't we lucky! so nice of them.
They'll just show less and less from now on and expect extra from PPV sales. if it continues like this i'll cancel the whole lot and just stick to finding streams or other ways around it.
We already pay SO much more than other countries for our TV packages and they want to add £15 a game on top
They'll just show less and less from now on and expect extra from PPV sales. if it continues like this i'll cancel the whole lot and just stick to finding streams or other ways around it.
We already pay SO much more than other countries for our TV packages and they want to add £15 a game on top
it will never burst if people keep paying.
Adverts on a PPV is like them knowing they have you by the balls for paying and giving them a good hard twist as well.
Cutns
I had sky ring me just before the game and trying to get me to sign up (never had
or never will have sky), told me about the great sports package, then subtly dropped in the new ppv, I proceeded to tell them I've been watching illegal streams in great quality for years and I I'm not paying for sky. In the end the guy tried to question my morals on illegal streaming, so I asked where skys morals on charging 100 pound for sky then 15 for ppv games, he went quiet.
or never will have sky), told me about the great sports package, then subtly dropped in the new ppv, I proceeded to tell them I've been watching illegal streams in great quality for years and I I'm not paying for sky. In the end the guy tried to question my morals on illegal streaming, so I asked where skys morals on charging 100 pound for sky then 15 for ppv games, he went quiet.
Apparently this is getting discussed again tomorrow, hopefully the concept is scrapped. I've been happy that its been overwhelmingly condemned.
I reckon if that has done £5 there would have still been outrage but much more buys
Glad something good has come with a lot of donations to charity on the back of the greed
Glad something good has come with a lot of donations to charity on the back of the greed
Don't know if my point here has been made already, but.
You're lucky in the fact you support Man Utd with the amount they're on Sky/BT in the normal manner.
Us fans of clubs who only get shown the minimal amount they have to show teams will pay a lot more for PPV over a season.
Agree with you about that some fans will be fleeced mercilessly. Even Mike Ashley has said they are charging too much. I still think when they organise the TV schedule for later in the season a lot of the big teams will miraculously appear on PPV.
You could be and probably are correct with that.
Though the whole thing is just wrong, I think that would fairer to us fans that support the none big clubs!
The bigger the PL gets the greedier it gets.
Do we have any figures yet to see how many mugs, I mean people, have been paying for these extra games?
You know things are bad when Mike Ashley is calling you greedy.
Talks on bringing it down to a 10er just moss the whole point of why people are refusing.
Its a time when people are losing their jobs and they've decided to recind showing the extra games for free and charge for them. In a normal season where those games aren't on TV this move may well be welcomed, but at the moment asking for more and more money is a joke.
Its a time when people are losing their jobs and they've decided to recind showing the extra games for free and charge for them. In a normal season where those games aren't on TV this move may well be welcomed, but at the moment asking for more and more money is a joke.
I saw something about the west brom game having like 77 people buying.
Saw somewhere Newcastle v Manutd had 40,000 (PPV) viewers and Manutd v Chelsea had 1.4m (Sky)
I just hope people don't fall for the clear strategy of:
-Deliberately overcharge
-Wait for fan outrage
-Reduce price
-Fans lap it up
-Profit
-Deliberately overcharge
-Wait for fan outrage
-Reduce price
-Fans lap it up
-Profit
Exactly this. There is a captive audience currently who can't really go to a pub to watch it (I know some people are but numbers are way down), you obviously can't go to any stadiums and it's even hard to watch it round friends' houses. This will remain and then they'll offer some kind of festive period package that we'll all lap up, they'll show one game per club for free or something and then back to the extortionate prices.
Can someone just hire a drone with a HD video camera and fly around OT for us to login and watch next game
apparently less than 1000 for Burnley vs WBA....from the mail
These were the figures that floated around Twitter:
-Newcastle vs Man Utd; 40k
-Leicester vs Aston Villa; 20k
-Liverpool vs Sheff Utd; 110k
-Arsenal vs Leicester; 140k
Household numbers:
-Newcastle vs Man Utd; 30k
-Leicester vs Aston Villa; 20k
-Liverpool vs Sheff Utd; 60k
-Arsenal vs Leicester; 70k
-Newcastle vs Man Utd; 40k
-Leicester vs Aston Villa; 20k
-Liverpool vs Sheff Utd; 110k
-Arsenal vs Leicester; 140k
Household numbers:
-Newcastle vs Man Utd; 30k
-Leicester vs Aston Villa; 20k
-Liverpool vs Sheff Utd; 60k
-Arsenal vs Leicester; 70k
Wow clearly lots of people have way more disposable income than I do!
Eh, I’d be ok with it for a fair price, as long as it means we can watch games that otherwise wouldn’t have been on TV. Really, every game should be available to everyone.
So an average of £550-600k per game? I have no idea about the operating costs etc but that sounds like a success to me. Cnuts.
This is the part that’s catching people though, we don’t know what is the next schedule, we’ll see when the derbies are going to miraculously not have been on tv anyway even though they’ve been super Sunday’s for the last twenty years.
That's the thing. They would have had cameras at the grounds anyway. Now they want us to pay for something they are already getting paid for by television companies all around the world!
Yep, they have already done it with Leicester v Arsenal, which would definitely have been picked by BT or Sky last season. It is a bad sign of things to come.
I wouldn't bother cancelling my subscription normally, but if they start removing these type of games, then it will be time for everyone to cancel.
I actually started writing that
But then didn’t bother. I agree with youThe fan initiatives of donating the price they’d pay to food banks is the truly damaging part to the Premier League. Will cost more than £500k in the long run if that campaign gathers proper momentum (which it can).
Combined with Rashford’s initiative and they’re truly on the wrong side of the fence. Even got Mike Ashley saying it’s a shit idea now.
Be ironic if Manchester United’s striker who has been lauded as a hero by the club speaks out against the £15 PPV that was blatantly an idea from the Project Big Picture cabal.
Combined with Rashford’s initiative and they’re truly on the wrong side of the fence. Even got Mike Ashley saying it’s a shit idea now.
Be ironic if Manchester United’s striker who has been lauded as a hero by the club speaks out against the £15 PPV that was blatantly an idea from the Project Big Picture cabal.
An average of 39k is better than I expected to be honest - although I'm not sure it brings in enough money to be worth the bad PR.
I guess the other point is there's a big disparity between the lower performing games and those performing well. The more popular teams are generally on Sky/BT more anyway and it's the Fulham V West Brom type game that will bring it down.
Also worth noting average doesn't include Brighton V West Brom from yesterdya which you'd expect to be pretty low.
I guess the other point is there's a big disparity between the lower performing games and those performing well. The more popular teams are generally on Sky/BT more anyway and it's the Fulham V West Brom type game that will bring it down.
Also worth noting average doesn't include Brighton V West Brom from yesterdya which you'd expect to be pretty low.
The bad PR will die down. It'll just be accepted in 2-3 months.
That's all companies need to do these days, ride out the week or two of rage on Twitter before everyone moves on to the next thing that upsets them.
That's all companies need to do these days, ride out the week or two of rage on Twitter before everyone moves on to the next thing that upsets them.
Liverpool and Manchester United aren't on PPV again before international break so you'd expect average to probably fall in that time (unless large numbers of people previously boycotting relent.)
I wonder how the lower-profile clubs who aren't getting large PPV numbers at all will feel about the scheme continuing. It's really just illustrating how certain teams pull in high viewing numbers and others don't which they might not think it in their interests to continue. I don't think they've decided how to divide the money up yet which might play a part - if the money isn't divided equally between the 20 teams but goes to the two teams directly involved in the match for instance then a team like Fulham are going to earn very little from it (I'd imagine their games against Sheff Utd and Palace are two of the matches to have had less than 10,000 and their game against West Brom early evening next Monday likely to be another one.)
As I feared the United v Newcastle game got close to 100 000 subscriptions and the average overall is around 39 000 per game which is what the Premier League were aiming for .
I knew United fans would be stupid enough to pay for this and this will just continue until it becomes the norm
I knew United fans would be stupid enough to pay for this and this will just continue until it becomes the norm
As a fan from Germany.
I've read some news about this and I'm utterly shocked...
You guys pay the highest ticket prices, the highest Sky/BTV prices and now are asked to pay 15quid!!! for PPV?
Surely the only answer is to not buy a season ticket, not pay for sky anymore and definitely never to pay for the PPV?
Its economics really and if we never push back against the corporations we'd always be the ones to get fleeced.
So I'm really wondering, why do our fellow british fans accept this situation that in germany would just lead to boycotts. (In a bigger sense that's what we should do with United as well, just simply boycott, but that's my personal opinion)
I've read some news about this and I'm utterly shocked...
You guys pay the highest ticket prices, the highest Sky/BTV prices and now are asked to pay 15quid!!! for PPV?
Surely the only answer is to not buy a season ticket, not pay for sky anymore and definitely never to pay for the PPV?
Its economics really and if we never push back against the corporations we'd always be the ones to get fleeced.
So I'm really wondering, why do our fellow british fans accept this situation that in germany would just lead to boycotts. (In a bigger sense that's what we should do with United as well, just simply boycott, but that's my personal opinion)
If i could get every United game PPV, CL included for a fiver, it would be a good deal.
Not such a good deal at 17 euros agreed.
The same idiotic Utd fans who paid for the Newcastle game will be the ones crying when more of our games are on PPV, and they'll still bloody pay.
Did anyone here pay for it?
Not a chance just picked it up on Premier Sports instead