Manchester United 0:1 Arsenal

Inigo Montoya · Oct 29, 2020

Real Madras said:
Matic was immense last night. Him and Fred worked very well together. One whose positioning is what makes him so good and the other is like a pitbull.

Sorry I think you misspelt immense... it’s, ‘mess’

RayK47 · Oct 29, 2020

---------------Rash-----------Green----------
-------Pogba-----------------------Bruno-------
---------------McTom------Fred-------------
Shaw-----Maguire-------Lindelof------AWB
-------------------------DDG--------------------------

This looks like it's our best lineup at the moment, if Pogba keeps up his good form. If not then VdB.

Pogba and Bruno need to dominate the left, right and central advanced areas respectively.
Rash and Greenwood, dropping in the left and right areas and playing centrally.

Maybe Cavani for Greenwood.

Maybe Tuanzebe for Lindelof.

0le · Oct 29, 2020

Really hope we win by some large margin. I don't think we've beaten them in the league since 2018:
https://www.11v11.com/teams/arsenal/tab/opposingTeams/opposition/Manchester United/

cptkeane1993 · Oct 29, 2020

I think he'll go back to the Chelsea line-up and system, i.e. a 4-2-3-1 and swap Greenwood for James. (I won't be surprised if it's Tuanzebe for AWB or Williams for Shaw to give them a break but Ole may decide to rest them in Istanbul instead.)

DDG
AWB Lindelof Maguire Shaw
McTominay Fred
Mata Bruno Rashford
Greenwood

Should be tight as Arsenal will park the bus and try to counter, so we'll need Pogba / Cavani / VdB as options from the bench.
McFred will be key to protect us against the Arsenal counters. Hopefully we are doing ok and can take Fred off earlier for Matic, to give the man a rest as much as he may feel he doesn't need it!

RedDevil@84 · Oct 29, 2020

4-2-3-1 with James for sure

OldTrevil · Oct 29, 2020

I'd set up like this

De Gea
AWB Tuanzebe Lindelof Shaw
Fred
McT Pogba
Bruno
Mason Marcus

3KDré · Oct 29, 2020

OldTrevil said:
I'd set up like this

De Gea
AWB Tuanzebe Lindelof Shaw
Fred
McT Pogba
Bruno
Mason Marcus

I'd have this but Maguire in for Tuanzebe. I really like the diamond, and it helps a lot that we have the players on the bench for the diamond too (very few quality wingers on the bench). It will also help a lot to have McT on the right side to help with dealing with Aubameyang.

Silverman · Oct 29, 2020

These guys have two fit CBs......Gabriel & Mustafi.
We have to attack them.

However, we have to be wary of the fact that Arsenal will want us to attack them. They struggle if a team plays it safer.

OldTrevil · Oct 29, 2020

3KDré said:
I'd have this but Maguire in for Tuanzebe. I really like the diamond, and it helps a lot that we have the players on the bench for the diamond too (very few quality wingers on the bench). It will also help a lot to have McT on the right side to help with dealing with Aubameyang.

I think Arteta will be looking to get at our defence with pace as soon as Arsenal wins the ball, whether by sitting and picking his moments to counter or by battling us in midfield to win the ball high up. I've gone with Axel instead of Harry to keep an eye on Aubameyang and co. McT would battle in midfield and support AWB if they play with wingbacks.

Giggsy13 · Oct 29, 2020

OldTrevil said:
I'd set up like this

De Gea
AWB Tuanzebe Lindelof Shaw
Fred
McT Pogba
Bruno
Mason Marcus

Spot on with the formation and midfield but no way Ole drops Maguire for this. I have a feeling we'll be utilizing the diamond formation a lot this year where our strength is midfield and now that we have 4 players in Rashford, Martial, Mason and Cavani who could play up top.

3KDré · Oct 29, 2020

OldTrevil said:
I think Arteta will be looking to get at our defence with pace as soon as Arsenal wins the ball, whether by sitting and picking his moments to counter or by battling us in midfield to win the ball high up. I've gone with Axel instead of Harry to keep an eye on Aubameyang and co. McT would battle in midfield and support AWB if they play with wingbacks.

I don’t know why I said Maguire for Tuanzebe, I meant to say Maguire with Tuanzebe. You are right his pace is needed.

Samid · Oct 29, 2020

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They are an extremely dirty team. We need a strong ref who won't put up with their bullshit.

MyOnlySolskjaer · Oct 29, 2020

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They are an extremely dirty team. We need a strong ref who won't put up with their bullshit.

Mike Dean doesn't take shit. He's reffing.

Red00012 · Oct 29, 2020

DDG
AWB
Victor
Maguire
Shaw
Fred
McSauce
Mason
Bruno
Pogba
Rashford

just do it Ole

AshRK · Oct 29, 2020

Nou_Camp99 · Oct 29, 2020

I seriously hope Ole has a plan for the 5 at the back because Arsenal are coming to do what Chelsea did and defend defend defend and look to pinch one on the break if they can do.

We have looked at our poorest under Ole when teams set up to frustrate us. We badly need to find an answer to it. An early goal for us obviously would help massively as if Arsenal then had to attack us I think we could murder them.

RedCurry · Oct 30, 2020

If we start an energetic team that can also play good football which we are totally capable of, this game won’t even be a contest. Something tells me Ole won’t feck it up like he did against Chelsea.

Red00012 · Oct 30, 2020

Nou_Camp99 said:
I seriously hope Ole has a plan for the 5 at the back because Arsenal are coming to do what Chelsea did and defend defend defend and look to pinch one on the break if they can do.

We have looked at our poorest under Ole when teams set up to frustrate us. We badly need to find an answer to it. An early goal for us obviously would help massively as if Arsenal then had to attack us I think we could murder them.

Playing with 10 men plus James doesn’t help , I think Ole has this figured out

Nou_Camp99 · Oct 30, 2020

Red00012 said:
Playing with 10 men plus James doesn’t help , I think Ole has this figured out

James might still start Sunday. We could easily go back to the team that started vs Chelsea. I hope he doesn't and we see something more in line with Leipzig but you just never know.

sammsky1 · Oct 30, 2020

podurban2 · Oct 30, 2020

Red00012 said:
DDG
AWB
Victor
Maguire
Shaw
Fred
McSauce
Mason
Bruno
Pogba
Rashford

just do it Ole

This but with Cavani instead of Mason. Rashford just showed what difference some young fresh legs can do to the opposition in the second half.

SadlerMUFC · Oct 30, 2020

Samid said:
Team picks itself for once.

Almost...Still a toss up between Greenwood or Cavani and Matic or McTominay. I may also start VdB over Pogba but I doubt that will happen...

Inigo Montoya · Oct 30, 2020

SadlerMUFC said:
Almost...Still a toss up between Greenwood or Cavani and Matic or McTominay. I may also start VdB over Pogba but I doubt that will happen...

Vdb needs more match time and played well against rb
He could easily function alongside Bruno who’ll start this one for sure.

bondsname · Oct 30, 2020

Honestly I haven't watched much of Arsenal this season but I'm hearing Arteta is using "negative" tactics, meaning defensively? If so, I can see us struggling tbh, with Arsenal hitting us on the break.

Ideally we would get a goal early to force them to push higher so we can play to our strength, counter-attacking. But no doubt it's going to be tough.

FrankDrebin · Oct 30, 2020

Expecting a low scoring game.

Wilt · Oct 30, 2020

FrankDrebin said:
Expecting a low scoring game.

Yep, both managers prioritising not wanting to lose.

Gary_Walsh_Nou_Camp_Hell · Oct 30, 2020

We need to win this.

Arsenal have been poor attacking, so i think we can nulify them and focus on breaking them.

Confidence will be high and I think we'll win 2-0

meamth · Oct 30, 2020

There are no excuses now. I'm the most patient fan in the forum, but winning against Arsenal is the only option. No draw, obviously not a loss.

There are no reason why we cannot beat the miserable Arsenal.

Offside · Oct 30, 2020

Arsenal are absolutely shit this season but they do look more solid. We need to make sure we score first otherwise could be a long day.

VP89 · Oct 30, 2020

Offside said:
Arsenal are absolutely shit this season but they do look more solid. We need to make sure we score first otherwise could be a long day.

Think Mustafi is going to get fecked.

VP89 · Oct 30, 2020

AshRK said:

It's been quite clear for a while that there is something mentally wrong with TY.

Sassy Colin · Oct 30, 2020

Where is Martial? No one seems to have him in their lineups. Someone said he was injured, when did that happen?

VP89 · Oct 30, 2020

Sassy Colin said:
Where is Martial? No one seems to have him in their lineups. Someone said he was injured, when did that happen?

He's serving a 3 match ban from Spurs

Red Devil 26 · Oct 30, 2020

Sassy Colin said:
Where is Martial? No one seems to have him in their lineups. Someone said he was injured, when did that happen?

Serving the final game of his suspension.

Glorio · Oct 30, 2020

Sassy Colin said:
Where is Martial? No one seems to have him in their lineups. Someone said he was injured, when did that happen?

Suspended

VP89 · Oct 30, 2020

Think the Leipzig game hinted at Rashford-Cavani starting for Arsenal.

Samid · Oct 30, 2020

VP89 said:
Think the Leipzig game hinted at Rashford-Cavani starting for Arsenal.

Auba on the wing then?

HowYouDoin · Oct 30, 2020

You gotta continue playing 4-2-2-2.
Line up for this one shouldnt be hard to put together, nice and predictable and sometimes thats good.

DDG
AWB Maguire Lindelof Shaw
Fred McT
Bruno Pogba
Rashford Greenwood

We gotta make 4-2-2-2 our go to from now on.

VP89 · Oct 30, 2020

Samid said:
Auba on the wing then?

Aha oops

Giggsyking · Oct 30, 2020

Samid said:
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They are an extremely dirty team. We need a strong ref who won't put up with their bullshit.

Is this the only thing Arteta learned from Pep, tactical fouls?

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