The two are intrinsically linked. The economy is what allows ordinary folk to put food on the table and keep a roof over their heads. Tax also funds public services. You may think the Government has the balance between economy and public health wrong, but there is a balance to be had.
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The most annoying thing about the Eat Out to Help Out scheme was that I wanted to go to restaurants anyway because I hadn't been for 5 fecking months, but the cnuts were constantly fully booked.
A mars a day keeps Covid away
Yes I can see that but keeping the economy up also leads to more people getting hurt and needing a higher economy afterwards.
That's why I see taking an economic break would be better like the other countries are doing.
Ours just seem to be keeping everything as it is and wondering which one drops out first - hoping it's the virus when as you say they are interlinked. An economic break can be controlled if pre-planned but the virus can be only controlled so far in one way by stopping the economy running as it normally does.
Stop reframing everything to the point of disingenuousness.
- Austerity
- Privatisation
- Cronyism
- Dishonesty
Every single political decision this government has made since coming in to power is bearing poisoned inedible fruit now.
I can’t even be bothered to walk down the breadcrumb trail. You know in your heart of hearts that every single bad decision has acted as an accumulating action on this level of failure.
Sounds like infection rates in UK are close to what they were in March, just pre lockdown?
I wonder if the north escaped the first wave to some extent because lockdown came as cases surged in London. Oldham now 700/100k. Be surprised if it was that bad in March, but who knows with the lack of testing!
Top 40 Local Authorities for cases per 100k population. (England only)
Saw some scenes on the beeb news that were shocking, pissed up people in Mansfield i think. Maybe an alcohol ban is the way to go, that would kill me i reckon.
Update on this one: the guy who was told it was ok to go to work, did so today then this evening received a call from HSE basically saying “x was wrong, he shouldn’t have told you that. You need to isolate for 14 days”
perhaps x has his calls reviewed today or his call logs but I bet he’s in a world of shit now, for he may cause an outbreak in an office
I don’t know how the hell anyone could have thought it was ok to go to work after a housemate tested positive?! Two minutes googling would tell him stay the feck at home. What is the “survey thing”?
I am making my own now and stocking up - just in case.
To be pedantic tax doesn't really fund public services, debt does. Taxes just pay some of the previously acquited debt back.
I think the argument of keeping the private sector economy afloat is far more relevant than taxes or debt levels and always has been. At least all countries are facing the same need for debt in a way it makes it easier.
Anyway mainly popped in here to say it looks like more and more health experts and politicians are using the appeal of lesser restrictions over Christmas to push for a national lockdown. Fingers crossed.
People won't be going out to the pub or restaurant either if they're reading 1000 people a day are dying of covid. The reality is we're going to end up with more draconian and longer measures because we didn't nip it in the bud decisively.
They called him as a close contact to his housemate but then told him he could go to work! It makes you wonder how much training the call centre staff are getting
That’s insane. The HSE contact tracing team called him? Surely to feck he could have found out that was incorrect advice online?
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Feels like the writing has been on the wall following the announcements in Germany, France and Belgium. Coupled with the latest study from Imperial College London.
The government have been softening up the public in recent days.
does feel like the general public have been slowly prepared (for the past week and a half) for an inevitable lockdown
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I have to self isolate. My boss , who I share a reasonably small office with (though we are sat about 3 metres apart) has tested positive so I’ve got 14 days from the 26th to isolate. I’m starting to feel rough. I’m very overweight (though I carry it well it like to think ).
I have to admit, I’m more than a little bit concerned
I have to admit, I’m more than a little bit concerned
Best of luck mate.Thanks. I can still taste and smell so far. Just ache like mad and tired as hell
Rest up, preserve your energy and it can’t hurt to eat healthy, give your immune system every chance.
France with 49k cases and 545 deaths.
Hard to see UK not following soon.
Hard to see UK not following soon.
National lockdown introduced on Wednesday until 1 December.
To be announced Monday.
Educational settings and essential shops to remain open.
To be announced Monday.
Educational settings and essential shops to remain open.
Where have you seen this?
Why do they always give so much notice before a lockdown? Just makes people go crazy for the next few days, so lockdown will take even longer to turn things round.
Times front page, plus I confirmed it with an ex-colleague in DHSC
Driving home this evening. If I hadn't read the news this morning I would've assumed that the pandemic was over. Group of about fifty folk all huddled around outside this guy's house to watch his Halloween decorations being turned on (happens every year - to be fair they're pretty spectacular) and all night there's been packs of wild neds walking along shoulder to shoulder sharing tins of booze.
It's clear that the government fecked our response up, but these shitheads are equally to blame for the second wave. They are absolute morons. Happy to follow guidelines at the start when it was a novelty to them, but now they're just doing their own thing.
Bleh.
It's clear that the government fecked our response up, but these shitheads are equally to blame for the second wave. They are absolute morons. Happy to follow guidelines at the start when it was a novelty to them, but now they're just doing their own thing.
Bleh.
I look forward to Johnson saying "no-one could have predicted it would come to this."
That reads like they're saying that everything will be shut, except everything will also be open. Unless the non-essential shops bit is an error?
Yeah, typo in the tweet. Confirmed in the article.
Why are they tipping the press off but dragging it out until Wednesday again?
Every time they've done this.
Have they all got shares in Andrex?
Every time they've done this.
Have they all got shares in Andrex?
Cheers. What's everyone's take on this? I guess a second lockdown was inevitable. If it happens then Scotland might as well have it too. Hopefully we're not back in five months time preparing for a third lockdown because dipshits have ignored guidelines/arsed up the management of this again
If at first you don't succeed, fail to learn any lessons from your mistakes.
If they're "locking down" but keeping schools open, what's actually the point?
About time we went into lockdown,