He was fantastic against Leipzig.
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Manchester United 0:1 Arsenal
Post-match discussion
Sun, 01 November 2020
Because we put out a different midfield.
You can have thousands of good men. If your officer sucks it's useless.
is there one single united fan who doesn't know this ? Another reason is we have either the worst or at best the 2nd worst manager in the division.
Yes that's right. You seem to have understood perfectly
How do Utd climb out of the bottom half of the table now?
The rest of November‘s EPL fixtures...3 points out of 9 ?
Everton - Away
WBA - Home
Southampton - Away
December’s fixtures (not inc. 2 CL & 1 EFL quarter final).....
West Ham - Away
City - Home
Sheffield Utd - Away
Leeds - Home
Leicester - Away
Wolves - Home
What odds getting 9 out of 18 points from that lot?
We‘ll be lucky to be in the top half by New Year unless there’s a massive turn around.
The rest of November‘s EPL fixtures...3 points out of 9 ?
Everton - Away
WBA - Home
Southampton - Away
December’s fixtures (not inc. 2 CL & 1 EFL quarter final).....
West Ham - Away
City - Home
Sheffield Utd - Away
Leeds - Home
Leicester - Away
Wolves - Home
What odds getting 9 out of 18 points from that lot?
We‘ll be lucky to be in the top half by New Year unless there’s a massive turn around.
Then we shouldn’t have started in a diamond, simple as.
Hear hear! Finally somebody says it. People need to be clued up on how important management is.
I agree, to an extent. The selection, tactics and subs today were poor from Ole. But if we had sancho, we at least would have been able to play with width and cover for the loss of martial.
And Pogbas performance today compared to Partey speaks for itself.
There is more than one problem at the club, but for me, the Glazers and Woodward have done nothing but steer United into mediocrity. It was another shit show of a transfer window and ultimately, the manager pays the price.
But I do agree that Ole was poor today as were the players.
7 minutes after Fred went off we conceded.
None of our attacking players(pogba, Bruno, greenwood, rashford) did anything for nearly the whole game.
This
But they weren't good men. You don't need an officer to tell you to fight for your mates.
I was referring to us not being sensible and getting Partey not this game in particular. Also again we struggle against the low block and every man and his dog knows it.
Arsenal aren't very good. If we showed up at all we would have beaten them.
We played the diamond against Leipzig with Matic at the base and Fred box to box. He brings in Mctominay for Matic but then does the inexplicable by switching Fred to the base and Mctominay as box to box - that’s two changes to accommodate one player.
Why Ole played Mctominay for 90 minutes baffles the mind. I know a lot of fans like Mctominay but he is bang average - how many sides in the 6 will have him in their first 11?
We were 1-0 down with Arsenal looking to defend their lead and he takes off Greenwood and Bruno and brings on Matic and vd Beek. He should have taken off Mctominay and had Matic sit. Surely you need the players on with the most assists to play the game through when we searching for a breakthrough?
Ole has no one to blame but himself for that performance and has done very little to improve confidence in him
I'm not saying the manager put out the right team or got his tactics right but does that excuse the absolute lack of desire or energy and all the misplaced passes?
We were flat apart from the brief period after half-time.
Still think we’re winning the league. Long way to go and when it clicks it will CLICK. My word.
Then the manager makes sure they show up, reminds them what this game means in our club history. Trouble is it is no longer a fighting for the title rivalry. It is a mid table rivalry.
There really isn't much to click.
Well yes. It does. If you put McT in the team instead of VDB then your midfield diamond positioning and passing will go to crap. And then the high press destroys you and the heads go down.
The lad can press. Genuinely.
He is apalling in all other functions. Id take Kleberson all day. And he was shit.
He’s had a bunch of excellent games, this season and last. Far better than anything Kleberson ever produced. His problem (like most of this poxy team) is his capacity to follow up an excellent game by playing like absolute dog shit in his next run out.
We were off it from the start though.
There was a lack of motivation it seemed. It seemed like the typical post-CL heroics hang-over.
Expand that to how many Premier League sides would even have him in their first eleven? Maybe a handful at best.
He's another one of those who doesn't really have any talent or quality on the ball but works really hard and is a United product so best stick with him because feel good sentimentalism is a better way to pick a team than looking objectively at ability.
Same with Chelsea game really. Missed opportunities.
Just thought, did Cavani have more than say 3 touches? Not sure he did..
At what stage does this become unacceptable? People saying Arsenal weren’t great, maybe they weren’t but that doesn’t mean we should be comparing ourselves to them who are bang average side. Ole knows United and the ‘United way’. I’m sure the ‘United way’ isn’t to sit back and hope for a break against mediocre teams at home. It’s no point coming on here and bashing Ole but the bottom line is he isn’t good enough.
The feck you on about? Either an overreaction or absolutely clueless - Fred has been one of our more solid players in an admittedly inconsistent/shambolic couple of seasons for the whole team
He is not a regular starting midfielder for a top four side as he doesn't specialise in any particular position. If he's a utility man in to do odd jobs here and there across a long season I have no problem with that, or maybe he could drop into a back three like he has for Scotland, but he can't be trusted to deliver the goods b2b nor sitting on a consistent basis.
Go support City then? You’ll regret it. Ole’s at the wheel.
No we will keep supporting United. You keep supporting OGS and the feckin wheel.
People seem to be asking whether it’s the players or the manager’s fault (ofc Woodward and the Glazers are also culpable), but the answer is its both.
We have obvious gaps in the squad, we lack any character or leadership and our manager is just poor.
The squad might be in better shape than 12 months ago, but it’s meaningless if we’re in the bottom half.
We have obvious gaps in the squad, we lack any character or leadership and our manager is just poor.
The squad might be in better shape than 12 months ago, but it’s meaningless if we’re in the bottom half.
Trouble with Ole's wheel is someone appears to have put a spanner in the spokes.
I could watch that second half 1000 times and never understand what Ole was attempting with those substitutions....
and that happens sooooo often.
and that happens sooooo often.
What's your logic here?
Did Ole say something?
Pogba offers nothing defensively in these games. We're essentially defending with 10 men. We look so much more vulnerable when we lose the ball and our shape suffers because of it. I'm a fan of Pogs but I'm seriously doubting now if he has a role with us anymore. He's a complete liability when we're up against it, especially a high press.
Matic, our only DM who can comfortably pass forward through the press is left on the bench. Bizarre stuff. McTominay wasn't up to it today.
Ole said before the game we'll play the United way - did we fk. Takes off our best attackers in Greenwood and Bruno. Arteta must've been delighted with himself. I have faith in Ole but some real head scratcher decisions before and during the game there.
A very bad result as we all know. We were too defensive and we looked nervous from kick off on. To get beaten by a team as limited going forward as Arsenal is bloody frustrating.
Matic, our only DM who can comfortably pass forward through the press is left on the bench. Bizarre stuff. McTominay wasn't up to it today.
Ole said before the game we'll play the United way - did we fk. Takes off our best attackers in Greenwood and Bruno. Arteta must've been delighted with himself. I have faith in Ole but some real head scratcher decisions before and during the game there.
A very bad result as we all know. We were too defensive and we looked nervous from kick off on. To get beaten by a team as limited going forward as Arsenal is bloody frustrating.
On the WUM.
wow.
You watched a different game than us?
Arsenal were for once really good. Pressed United all over the pitch and were easily the better team for 70 minutes. Only at the end when they started sitting back they were shaky.
but to say they were the most negative and utter embarrassment to football... what the feck
Man of the Match
Runners-up
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15%
Luke Shaw
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13%
David de Gea
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6%
Donny van de Beek
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6%
Harry Maguire
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4%
Mason Greenwood
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4%
Nemanja Matic
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3%
Fred
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3%
Aaron Wan-Bissaka
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2%
Marcus Rashford
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2%
Bruno Fernandes
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2%
Scott McTominay
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2%
Paul Pogba
Player Ratings
Total Average Rating
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Compiled from 316 ratings.
Score Predictions
215,13,40
- Man Utd win
- Arsenal win
- Draw
Detailed Results
- 22% Man Utd 2:0 Arsenal
- 22% Man Utd 2:1 Arsenal
- 13% Man Utd 3:1 Arsenal
- 11% Man Utd 3:0 Arsenal
- 9% Man Utd 1:1 Arsenal
- 3% Man Utd 0:0 Arsenal
- 3% Man Utd 1:0 Arsenal
- 3% Man Utd 2:2 Arsenal
- 2% Man Utd 1:2 Arsenal
- 2% Man Utd 4:0 Arsenal
- 2% Man Utd 3:2 Arsenal
- 1% Man Utd 4:1 Arsenal
- 1% Man Utd 5:0 Arsenal
- 1% Man Utd 0:2 Arsenal
- 1% Man Utd 4:2 Arsenal
- 0% Man Utd 5:1 Arsenal
- 0% Man Utd 0:1 Arsenal
- 0% Man Utd 5:2 Arsenal
- 0% Man Utd 1:3 Arsenal
- 0% Man Utd 0:3 Arsenal
- 0% Man Utd 0:4 Arsenal
- 0% Man Utd 0:5 Arsenal
Match Stats
- Man Utd
- Arsenal
- Possession
- 53% 47%
- Shots
- 8 7
- Shots on Target
- 2 2
- Corners
- 6 3
- Fouls
- 12 12
Referee
Mike Dean
Man Utd Lineup
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replaced by Donny van de Beek
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replaced by Nemanja Matic
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replaced by Edinson Cavani
