he only needs two of those 3If Trump wins Arizona and holds on to his leads in both Pennsylvania and NC, is that enough for him?
he only needs two of those 3If Trump wins Arizona and holds on to his leads in both Pennsylvania and NC, is that enough for him?
Can't get excited without a bit of nerves! And excitement's way more fun than dispassionate analysis of complex, boring numbers. So people are perfectly cool not chillingBiden has won everyone needs to chill.
Equally frustrating too.Let me say this, the last couple of days following the elections have been more exciting than United's season so far.
If Biden wins PA it’s over. And he’s going to win PA outside of the recount margin. Not including votes received after Election Day. So there’s no basis of a potential legal challenge. I don’t get why people are stressed again in here. Patience!he only needs two of those 3
It's an online poll, it's not like they had to tattoo it onto their foreheads. I also disagree that Corbyn is less left than Boris is right. In fact I'd say the latter will be remembered as a tax and spend populist...Closer to Blair than Maggie.Of which very few people participated. You can't tell political leanings of the Caf from that especially as right wing voters tend to be more secrative about how they vote. Very few people admit they voted for Maggie yet......
And Corby was less left that the current Tory government is right and this place is predominantly Brits.
I’ll bet that watermark story got some traction in the Q universe.So I have a FB friend who is a full-blown acolyte of Qanon, he’s apoplectic! Sending stuff about how Trump marked all official ballots with some watermark that the radical left didn’t know about and how they’ve got them dead to rights.
Also just sent a meme about turnout of over 100% in various states using world population review as their source. I’ve literally just taken two minutes to go on that same source and find updated data that wipes out any credibility to that. For example they had Michigan as having 5.453m voters with a projected vote of 5.7m. Checking on the site they list Michigan at 8.12m registered voters.
They’re getting desperate!
Ladbrokes had them at:What are the current betting odds on each candidate?
According to Paddy Power:What are the current betting odds on each candidate?
Electronic voting is widespread in America and also moronic.US needs electronic voting. Having a long drawn out ballot count is something I associate with the 90s in India.
It was prematurely called early by some outlets (Fox, AP) but has not been called by others (NYT, CNN). It's still in play.has Arizona been declared as different channels seem to have different numbers up ?
That's not true. If Trump loses Pennsylvania, he's toast no matter what. If he wins PA and NC (and GA) but Biden holds Arizona and Nevada, Biden still wins.he only needs two of those 3
Wouldn't he be at 267 if he won PA but lost AZ and NV?To the people confused, it's easier to think like this:
* There are 5 states left. Biden only needs 2 of them. It doesn't matter which 2, because even the 2 smallest(Nevada and Arizona) will give him enough points.
* To "rephrase" the point above: Trump needs to win minimum 4 out of the remaining 5 states.
* If Biden gets Pennsylvania, then that will be sufficient. In other words: he wont need any of the other 4.
I work in UK elections and good god, we don't let Candidates anywhere near ballots before they go out.So I have a FB friend who is a full-blown acolyte of Qanon, he’s apoplectic! Sending stuff about how Trump marked all official ballots with some watermark that the radical left didn’t know about and how they’ve got them dead to rights.
Also just sent a meme about turnout of over 100% in various states using world population review as their source. I’ve literally just taken two minutes to go on that same source and find updated data that wipes out any credibility to that. For example they had Michigan as having 5.453m voters with a projected vote of 5.7m. Checking on the site they list Michigan at 8.12m registered voters.
They’re getting desperate!
We had a run in with Diebold in 2004 that no one wants to revisit. Just don’t think the overall safety is there yet. Somehow.US needs electronic voting. Having a long drawn out ballot count is something I associate with the 90s in India.
my mistake, forgot PA’s size.If Biden wins PA it’s over. And he’s going to win PA outside of the recount margin. Not including votes received after Election Day. So there’s no basis of a potential legal challenge. I don’t get why people are stressed again in here. Patience!
No, he'd be at 273. He's at 253 now without Arizona or Nevada.Wouldn't he be at 267 if he won PA but lost AZ and NV?
273Wouldn't he be at 267 if he won PA but lost AZ and NV?
hopefully people cashed out at that pointAccording to Paddy Power:
Biden 1/7
Trump 5/1
Trump was actually 1/7 himself around the beginning of counting!
273Wouldn't he be at 267 if he won PA but lost AZ and NV?
perfect cheersIt was prematurely called early by some outlets (Fox, AP) but has not been called by others (NYT, CNN). It's still in play.
Not been formally declared but AP declared it for Biden as Trump didn't have enough votes to make up difference.has Arizona been declared as different channels seem to have different numbers up ?
This. We're close to the finish line it's just a waiting game at this point.If Biden wins PA it’s over. And he’s going to win PA outside of the recount margin. Not including votes received after Election Day. So there’s no basis of a potential legal challenge. I don’t get why people are stressed again in here. Patience!
No, he'd be at 273. He's at 253 now without Arizona or Nevada.
Ah you're right. Somehow I thought NV was already accounted for in the tally I was looking at, it wasn't.
Biden still big favourite - but it's not quite as straightforward as we'd likeWho's favourite now ?
I love QAnon freaks. Had one on my Facebook, he was super deep into conspiracy. Even said Stonehenge was built in 60s and forged as an ancient monument (if we only had people born before 1960 who could verify that). There was a time when he was trying to convince himself Australia did not exist and was just part of America.So I have a FB friend who is a full-blown acolyte of Qanon, he’s apoplectic! Sending stuff about how Trump marked all official ballots with some watermark that the radical left didn’t know about and how they’ve got them dead to rights.
Also just sent a meme about turnout of over 100% in various states using world population review as their source. I’ve literally just taken two minutes to go on that same source and find updated data that wipes out any credibility to that. For example they had Michigan as having 5.453m voters with a projected vote of 5.7m. Checking on the site they list Michigan at 8.12m registered voters.
They’re getting desperate!
I find that fascinating in 2020 - surely there must be a safe and efficient way of digitalizing the voting process.We had a run in with Diebold in 2004 that no one wants to revisit. Just don’t think the overall safety is there yet. Somehow.
Can’t take seriously, obviously. Look at the source.Tweet
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Well if Biden is 1/7 and Trump 5/1....Who's favourite now ?
Not a given that they'd even get out of the States. Honestly, if I were an American citizen, there's various of stuff I'd like to see and experience in my own borders before I'd even consider going overseas.Very appropriate statement here.
Although that should soon change due to the windfall tax returns middle class republicans have apparently received from the tax cuts.