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Absolutely loved the episode - easily my favourite from the series so far. It's already been mentioned - but Rosario Dawson did a great job bringing Ahsoka Tano to life. The tilted head, the smile, the witty dialogue, the lightsaber technique, the exaggerated pauses - and the pain of that not-so-subtle reference to Anakin. Also love the new mechanics they're introducing - like telling us how Beskar can't be melted by a lightsaber. I think this was the first time I saw a HK-47 after KOTOR.

The Thrawn name drop was :drool:. They're letting the story dip into the threads from Clone Wars and Rebels, especially the latter. I think the Jedi they're looking for could be Ezra Bridger - both him and Thrawn had unresolved stories at the end of Rebels and the timeline fits in well. Could it be Cal Kestis from SW Jedi: Fallen Order? The actor who played him, Cameron Monaghan, is very young but experienced. I don't know if they 'll take the game so seriously, though. And of course, it could be Luke before he vanishes, but unlikely. I don't know if there's any more options from the books or comics.

Here's a detailed reddit post by someone who saw too much into the wall paintings in Rebels, and almost linked Baby Yoda (what kind of a name is Grogu?) to Ezra a long time ago without even knowing it.

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Well hell, I guess there’s a whole ‘nother animated series I need to watch. I binged Clone Wars during lockdown but never got around to Rebels.
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Sod the cartoons, go read the Timothy Zahn novels and then weep when you realise what the sequels could have been.
 

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George Lucas loved Akira Kurosawa; Dave Filoni knows Star Wars and George Lucas better than just about anyone else at Disney. Great work Filoni and Favreau. Right down to the suspended prisoners in both shots.

 

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Loved the episode but man, what a stupid name! Surely they could have come up with something better? The cutest thing in the galaxy has a name like a venereal disease....
 

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Is this Ashoka chick dead when the sequel trilogy happens and when she's one of 'the voices'.
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I don’t think it was ever confirmed, but Filoni posted something a while back which seemed to hint she’s alive during episode 9.

edit: this was his post in 2019 after the release of episode 9:

 

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Just watched the last two - this just gets better such a good way to spend 30 minutes. It's not too heavy usually but the references are growing. I have read the Thrawn books a very long time ago so can't remember much at all other than they were fantastic so this is going even more the right way. Well - this is the way.
 

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I liked the episode, but had some issues. Watching somebody who stalemated Darth Vader in a duel have so much trouble with a woman with a spear is strange and her movement just felt clunky and the actress almost bored. Though the last time we saw her she basically looked like a child so seeing her grown up just felt like cosplay to me. Was amazing to see her back in storylines though and the Thrawn name drop giving us potentially Ezra back. Also Grogu is fecking stupid as a name.
 

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Zarlak said:
I liked the episode, but had some issues. Watching somebody who stalemated Darth Vader in a duel have so much trouble with a woman with a spear is strange and her movement just felt clunky and the actress almost bored. Though the last time we saw her she basically looked like a child so seeing her grown up just felt like cosplay to me. Was amazing to see her back in storylines though and the Thrawn name drop giving us potentially Ezra back. Also Grogu is fecking stupid as a name.
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Someone suggested that she wasnt struggling in the slightest. Her objective was to disarm her opponent and making her over confident and cocky would result in her over extending and making an error. Thus no need for a killing blow. Might be bullshit, but it is a tactic in medieval combat so I can buy into it.
 

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Someone suggested that she wasnt struggling in the slightest. Her objective was to disarm her opponent and making her over confident and cocky would result in her over extending and making an error. Thus no need for a killing blow. Might be bullshit, but it is a tactic in medieval combat so I can buy into it.
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The Ahsoka we know from previous shows could have done that in half a second as a teenager let alone a grown woman so I'm not buying it, I think that's stretching. She just didn't feel the same to me I felt like I watching a fan Cosplaying in a fan made YouTube promo. But I'm happy for the Star Wars Universe to have her back and have it advance the stories. I wonder which Jedi she was alluding to at the end. I hope it's Ezra.
 

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For those who've read the books/comics, what happened to the Inquisitors/Sith after the fall of the Empire (beyond the garbage of episode 9)? Is it possible Mando will be using his new spear to fight someone with a red lightsaber?
 

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Zarlak said:
The Ahsoka we know from previous shows could have done that in half a second as a teenager let alone a grown woman so I'm not buying it, I think that's stretching. She just didn't feel the same to me I felt like I watching a fan Cosplaying in a fan made YouTube promo. But I'm happy for the Star Wars Universe to have her back and have it advance the stories. I wonder which Jedi she was alluding to at the end. I hope it's Ezra.
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How much - if any - interaction has Ashoka had with Thrawn? I've only seen the 'big episodes' of Rebels. Read the first Zahn trilogy way back when.

Long story short it did look like a fight for the sake of having a fight. If that was the case then it was just bad writing that somehow didn't anticipate the questions that would have raised in the minds of people like you.

The 'medieval strat' or whatever that someone else mentioned is extremely flimsy at best - like you mentioned, the gap in skill should be immense to the point where the question arises 'why is she humoring her opponent'.

Basically it's either 1. bad writing or 2. If Ashoka and Thrawn are well-acquainted it could then be a feint directed at him. AKA the spear-lady goes to him and says, 'I could sort of fight her, she's weaker than she used to be.'
 

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It was an ejoyable episode, but I also have my issues with it. Glad to have Ahsoka back, arguably one of the best characters in the whole SW universe, but not too sure about the actress cast (I have nothing against Rosario Dawson, maybe I was just too used to her animation incarnation). Also, the last part felt a bit rushed and cheap: "Let me go fetch the mofo", "on second thoughts actually no I won't train him lol", "that's alright, whatever".

About the name, well, it's a universe full of names like General Grievous, so nothing to see here.

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2. If Ashoka and Thrawn are well-acquainted it could then be a feint directed at him. AKA the spear-lady goes to him and says, 'I could sort of fight her, she's weaker than she used to be.'
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That's unlikely imo, firstly because Thrawn is far too clever to fall for it, and second, he would never fight her personally anyway, as far as I recall Thrawn is never depicted as a particularly strong character physically?
 

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That's unlikely imo, firstly because Thrawn is far too clever to fall for it, and second, he would never fight her personally anyway, as far as I recall Thrawn is never depicted as a particularly strong character physically?
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You realize the bolded part is so far out of left field it throws any opinion you might have out?

Obviously no one's talking about Ashoka trying to fool Thrawn into thinking he could best her in 1v1. The reply to Zarlak is more a generous attempt to try and give Filoni an 'out' regarding very poor/questionable writing.
 

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Really enjoyable episode. I loved that they came straight out of the gates with Ashoka, no saving for a big reveal! It's always fun when they show Jedi (or not jedi!) As the powerhouses they should be.

And finally I'm glad Rosario Dawson did a good job, she's been after this role for years apparently, imagine if she sucked...
 

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Thought that was the best episode of the series in terms of pure spectacle.

That was Michael Biehn too wasn't it? Nice to see him about still with a Johnny Ringo'esque cameo.

Not interested in the star wars nerd shit.
 

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You've all definitely hyped this character I've never heard of.
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She was the main protagonist of TV show The Clone Wars, and had some role in the other TV show (The Rebels).

One of the best written Star Wars characters in general.
 

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Great episode. Ahsoka having been a padawan of Anakin, is obviously worried to train a new Jedi, especially someone who seems to have strong feelings.

The only thing I did not think made too much sense was the fight between her and the Magistrate. In reality, it should have last for roughly half a second.

Spoiler for Ahsoka's power levels from the other two TV shows.

Ahsoka is no common Jedi, she was always a prodigy. A very young Ahsoka survived encounters with General Grievous, a 17 years old Ahsoka defeated Maul, and managed to survive Order 66 while being in a ship full of clones who were under her command but received Order 66 and so were hunting her. Not only she managed to survive the order, but she managed to heal one of the clones (the commander) who was her best friend next to Kenobi and Anakin.

She later nonchalantly defeated two inquisitors (ex-Jedi knight/master turned bad from the Empire) and had a tie with Vader. She is easily Kenobi at his peak level of strength, and maybe at this point of time (with Palpatine being weakened, Kenobi and Vader dead, and Luke being green), she is the most powerful force user in the galaxy.

Anyway, best overall episode IMO. Really liked Ahsoka's reveal, and it seems clear that this is not the last time we hear from her. I am very excited to see that Thrawn might have an appearance (Thrawn might be the best overall written character in Star Wars). About the Jedi, it has to be Ezra. Returning a random Jedi makes no sense, and I cannot see Luke being involved in this show.
 
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George Lucas loved Akira Kurosawa; Dave Filoni knows Star Wars and George Lucas better than just about anyone else at Disney. Great work Filoni and Favreau. Right down to the suspended prisoners in both shots.

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The first thing that crossed my mind. The eipsode was (deliberately so) very Kurosawa.
 

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Slightly off topic, when did Lucas decide Anakin and Vader were the one and the same?? I rewatched ANH and there's no indication in OWK's past stories that Lucas had decided that Anakin were not meant to be completely separate.
 

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Slightly off topic, when did Lucas decide Anakin and Vader were the one and the same?? I rewatched ANH and there's no indication in OWK's past stories that Lucas had decided that Anakin were not meant to be completely separate.
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When he was making The Empire, I believe. He also came up with the concept of Emperor there and that Luke and Leia are twins.
 

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It was anther decent episode, though I do have the unpopular opinion of being rather indifferent towards the Force and all the hocus-pocus and flashy lightsabre show it brings along with it. That side of SW doesn't interest me greatly though I'm expecting it to lean heavily towards that as the Force and Jedi get more involved in the story.

Still, good to see Michael Biehn back in a popular show. Still would've liked more backstory with his character plus more dialogue but you cant get everything.
 

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First off HOLY SHIT ITS AHSOKA! Waited so long for her to finally be on tv in live action. Now, with that out of the way. This episode was soo damn good. Find out Baby yoda’s name which I like. Rosario Dawson looks perfect for Ahsoka. Same jawline and everything. Love the white lightsabers she had. Looks brilliant with the dark sky. Fighting the other lady she looked like she was playing around tbh. Should have beaten her with ease. And the big news is that Admiral fecking Thrawn is going to be in this. I was not expecting that. And I wonder who the other Force user is. Could be Kanan or Esra from Rebels, Cal Kestis from Jedi Fallen Order or Luke Skywalker.

Would like to know how the hell is he alive? Didn’t he die in Rebels which was around the time Vader was still there. Guess we never technically see him die I guess.
 

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Would like to know how the hell is he alive? Didn’t he die in Rebels which was around the time Vader was still there. Guess we never technically see him die I guess.
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As you say, we never saw him die. In the battle over Lothal, his Star Destroyer (which he & Ezra were on) was taken into deep space by those whale-like creatures who could travel at hyperspace. Not sure how they could survive travelling in a broken ship at such speeds, but I assumed he was alive the same way Ezra is implied to be alive when Ahsoka & Sabine go looking for him.

Also, one of the Jedi you speculated is dead... :nervous:
 

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This might have been answered but

Where in the SW trilogy of trilogies timeline does this show fall?

Are the cartoon shows relevant? As in whatever happens in there is back story for characters that cross? (And what are the timelines for those)
 

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As you say, we never saw him die. In the battle over Lothal, his Star Destroyer (which he & Ezra were on) was taken into deep space by those whale-like creatures who could travel at hyperspace. Not sure how they could survive travelling in a broken ship at such speeds, but I assumed he was alive the same way Ezra is implied to be alive when Ahsoka & Sabine go looking for him.

Also, one of the Jedi you speculated is dead... :nervous:
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oh crap I forgot about that gut wrenching death of Kanan :( .
 

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Sylar said:
This might have been answered but

Where in the SW trilogy of trilogies timeline does this show fall?

Are the cartoon shows relevant? As in whatever happens in there is back story for characters that cross? (And what are the timelines for those)
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Yeah it's all linked. Mandalorian takes place 5 years after the Death of Vadar and Palpatine. The show is mostly taking from the Clone Wars and mostly Rebels.
 

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Sylar said:
This might have been answered but

Where in the SW trilogy of trilogies timeline does this show fall?

Are the cartoon shows relevant? As in whatever happens in there is back story for characters that cross? (And what are the timelines for those)
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The show takes place 5 years after RotJ.

While the show is independent of the previous shows, now some links are recurring. Ashoka was the protagonist of The Clone Wars TV show (she was the padawan of Anakin), Bo Katan played a part there, and Grand Admiral Thrawn (who was originally created for The Thrawn trilogy books) was the main antagonist in The Rebels TV show, and the Jedi which was mentioned was most likely, Ezra, the protagonist of Rebels TV show (technically he was trained from another Jedi padawan and maybe had a few lessons from Ashoka). The executive producer of this show also created the other two shows, so I expect the shows to get more linked to each other, though I expect Ashoka to only be here in a few episodes (would be surprised if Disney do not create her own show).
 
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