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Wonder if their owners are tempted to pull the trigger on Chris Wilder, been shit since lockdown, got no plan B and didn’t invest wise enough on strikers.
I'd hope they'd be smart enough to realise that Wilder took up and kept up a mid-Championship level team in terms of quality.
 

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Derby County fans must be excited. They might finally get rid of their PL total record.
 

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I'd hope they'd be smart enough to realise that Wilder took up and kept up a mid-Championship level team in terms of quality.
Don’t know a single fan that wants him gone, just a media narrative that comes with being in the PL.
 

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No other manager is coming in and getting anything out of those players in my opinion.

Wilder deserves a chance at bringing them back.. IF they go
 

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No other manager is coming in and getting anything out of those players in my opinion.

Wilder deserves a chance at bringing them back.. IF they go
Burnley have shown how to deal with it. Stick with the manager that got them there.
 

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Don’t know a single fan that wants him gone, just a media narrative that comes with being in the PL.
I've peaked at a Sheffield United forum a few times before the season started and since (researching for fantasy football).

Pre season, I was surprised that the forum was quite pessimistic and critical of Wilder. Seemed bonkers to me at the time. I suppose they saw the signs coming though. Had a look last week and the forum was completely toxic towards Wilder and most of the team.
 

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Didn't watch tonight but it looks like they played alright on the old xG. That has them down as the only match they really should have won so far this season although there were one or two others they could have edged.

It's not looking good though is it? A big lack of goals, nobody to finish off the chances they do create, defence isn't exactly solid either. Considerably worse results last season post lockdown compared to pre and considerably worse results than that again so far this season. All topped off with a statement defeat, if there's such a thing tonight.

Definitely looking like 3 from 4 to go down so far. I wouldn't really like to separate any of them right now and would just say they all have a 3 out 4 chance of going down. Maybe Fulham are the absolute worst but I can't be too sure about that.
 

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Still way to early to doom them. 10 games done and there's a 5 point difference out of relegation zone. Losses are marginal so it doesn't take much to swing those games. One good run can take you far in the relegation battle and in the end fitness will play a big part. Teams usually start to lose players to injury in December-January more frequently but this season it's started early. I wouldn't take anything for granted.
 

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I've peaked at a Sheffield United forum a few times before the season started and since (researching for fantasy football).

Pre season, I was surprised that the forum was quite pessimistic and critical of Wilder. Seemed bonkers to me at the time. I suppose they saw the signs coming though. Had a look last week and the forum was completely toxic towards Wilder and most of the team.
I started to fear for them when Wilder started to become very candid in his post match interviews after the league restarted. He was very openly critical of some of the performances. Almost throwing players under the bus live on air.

I wonder if that has lead to tension BTS.

He's spent a decent amount of money since getting promoted too.

Their style of play wasn't sustainable. They often won 1-0 last season. As soon as they started concede the 1st goal in games, their lack of goalscorers became an issue.
 

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I've peaked at a Sheffield United forum a few times before the season started and since (researching for fantasy football).

Pre season, I was surprised that the forum was quite pessimistic and critical of Wilder. Seemed bonkers to me at the time. I suppose they saw the signs coming though. Had a look last week and the forum was completely toxic towards Wilder and most of the team.
I feel fan forums are not always the best judges of their clubs. I'm struggling to think of another example. Give me a minute.
 

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I've peaked at a Sheffield United forum a few times before the season started and since (researching for fantasy football).

Pre season, I was surprised that the forum was quite pessimistic and critical of Wilder. Seemed bonkers to me at the time. I suppose they saw the signs coming though. Had a look last week and the forum was completely toxic towards Wilder and most of the team.
Not sure which forum you looked at but definitely a minority. There’d be chaos if Wilder got the boot.
 

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Quite amazing how they went from that (last seasons form) to this

has there ever been such a stark contrast in back to back seasons before?
 

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I started to fear for them when Wilder started to become very candid in his post match interviews after the league restarted. He was very openly critical of some of the performances. Almost throwing players under the bus live on air.

I wonder if that has lead to tension BTS.

He's spent a decent amount of money since getting promoted too.

Their style of play wasn't sustainable. They often won 1-0 last season. As soon as they started concede the 1st goal in games, their lack of goalscorers became an issue.
That’s how it is with Wilder, nothing new.

A lot of money has been spent but unfortunately on plan B and plan C targets which is definitely frustrating but that’s what you have to compete with.

We were actually decent at getting results when we were trailing last season.
 

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I still think they have been unlucky. They should have won today and O’Connell/Fleck have been big misses.

They haven’t got a goal scorer to keep them in these tight games, but they are competing almost every game.

It’s fine margins and I think they can still sort it
 

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Quite amazing how they went from that (last seasons form) to this

has there ever been such a stark contrast in back to back seasons before?
You’ve got to consider the fact that the team last season was a group that has played from league one up to the PL together and the confidence had been building each season. A dip had to come eventually, now it’s a new challenge to get the confidence back.
 

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Quite amazing how they went from that (last seasons form) to this

has there ever been such a stark contrast in back to back seasons before?
Leeds finishing 17th as Champions in 92/93 will take some beating even if there were 22 in the division. Stayed up by 2 points and a better goal difference.

Edit: Actually I think City were once relegated after being Champions the season before way back in time. The only team do so.
 
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No fans is 100% a factor, can’t be helped so can’t complain about it but that’s how it is.
 

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They have made bad decisions when bringing strikers to the club clearly, McBurnie and McGoldrick are nowhere near Premiership quality.

The midfield is very decent actually, as is the defence though they are missing Hendo this year for sure.

Bramall Lane is usually such a tough place to go and get a result, the Blades have a great following (home and away) and it’s really hurting their form I think.

Looks like they will have a Sheffield derby to look forward too next season, assuming Wednesday can avoid relegation!
 

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I still think they have been unlucky. They should have won today and O’Connell/Fleck have been big misses.

They haven’t got a goal scorer to keep them in these tight games, but they are competing almost every game.

It’s fine margins and I think they can still sort it
Agree with this. They should have at least got a draw yesterday - they played better and had more chances than West Brom.

They will be competitive in most games and for that alone I think they're good candidates to stay up.

What has changed though as you say they're missing key defenders, and Ramsdale is a significant downgrade on Henderson (not sure why they signed him) which means they're letting in more goals than they usually did last season.

That coupled with not being able to score is seeing them lose more games. However with Mousset coming back from injury that should help them, he's their best attacker. It's going to be a slog for them but tactically theyre better than Fulham, West Brom and Burnley.
 

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Quite amazing how they went from that (last seasons form) to this

has there ever been such a stark contrast in back to back seasons before?
Leeds finishing 17th as Champions in 92/93 will take some beating even if there were 22 in the division. Stayed up by 2 points and a better goal difference.

Edit: Actually I think City were once relegated after being Champions the season before way back in time. The only team do so.
Not quite as bad, but Chelsea finishing 10th in-between 2 title winning seasons.
 

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I think their team is just pretty crap. Tactics can only do so much.
 

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Christ, what has happened to them?
Similar to Bournemouth they were out punching their weight last season by a big stretch. No fans and the stuttering end to last season has meant that the momentum they generated at the beginning is completely gone and they’re at their true level which is in between the Championship and PL.
 
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Christ, what has happened to them?
They massively over achieved last season. With the players they have it was truly amazing how good they were before the lockdown. No fans and a long break to kill their momentum and they've reverted to what they are, a bang average side.

I think Wilder needs to change things up massively if they want to stay up as the system that worked so well last season isn't looking any good anymore.
 
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They massively over achieved last season. With the players they have it was truly amazon how good they were before the lockdown. No fans and a long break to kill their momentum and they've reverted to what they are, a bang average side.

I think Wilder needs to change things up massively if they want to stay up as the system that worked so well last season isn't looking any good anymore.
In that they didn’t find it taxing?
 

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They massively over achieved last season. With the players they have it was truly amazing how good they were before the lockdown. No fans and a long break to kill their momentum and they've reverted to what they are, a bang average side.

I think Wilder needs to change things up massively if they want to stay up as the system that worked so well last season isn't looking any good anymore.
I mean, I get all that, but not a single win yet?
Not being able to knock over Fulham or West Brom who look just as bad?


11 games without a win is shocking.
 

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2 points from 16 games

Considering where they were last season this has to be the single biggest drop off from a side from one season to the next
 

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This is mental. They were a game in hand from going ahead of us before the last lockdown in March. Here they are looking like the worst team in history. What the hell happened? So many narrow defeats too.
 

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They spent 45 million on a goalkeeper who can’t keep a clean sheet and a striker that can’t score.

For all the rightful plaudits Wilder has received up until now, he made two fatal errors in the summer that has killed them off.
 

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They need a result and they need it now. This keeps up and the results will start becoming more emphatic.
 

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They have been too loyal to some of their players that they should of moved on before the season started and replaced them. Bournemouth got away with it for many years with old timers like Cook and Francis but it eventually caught up with them.
 

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Derby County fans must be excited. They might finally get rid of their PL total record.
Really looks like that's all they have to play for now. I don't think they'll break the record though.